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I was hoping that Lion-O and her would end up together, but after seeing this episode I guess it won't ever happen. Now I just wish they stop the love triangle angle and let Cheetara and Tygra be happy. Instead they should concentrate on building Lion-O from a jealous boy to a man worthy of being king. Let him move on and take having his heart broken as a lesson of maturity. The lesson being that you can only count on yourself, and emotions only drag you down lol.
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I'm lovin' the thundertank add-on, I hope they make an add on which i could add to my (toy) tank now, a sort of place on top kinda thing with a much bigger back area where i can 'sit" the figures since the driver seat only holds 1., Or they can just sell a whole new version of the tank itself with nothing removeable. .
The only thing i didnt like was those new long arms, I think the whole idea of Panthro getting his arms cutt off, was lame!!!. I would have settled for just 1 arm and than having him have 1 real arm and 1 metel arm which would then give that new arm more fighting power, him able to punch holes and break down walls by 1 swing, not the fantastic way tho. lol. Everything else about this show was kool, i give this show a 7/10 |
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First of all, every battle is a danger. Otherwise it is routing. Secondly, it's hard to call his engagement that foolish; with the gauntlet and the sword the lizards don't possess anything that can match him. Lion-O didn't know that Slithe, Monkian, and Jackalman were there waiting to show themselves. Secondly, while Lion-O entered the fight partly driven by his irratation, he also did so to maintain the line he had drawn since the first episode, that the lizards were an oppressed people who deserve a chance at peace. For him to do nothing would show that he only enforces the view when it's convenient. While Cheetara has disagreed with Lion-O in the past (such as in Ramaluk), this is the first time we see her not as trying to aide Lion-O but defy him, not once, but twice. Quote:
Cheetara truly defied Lion-O and would've gotten the group killed. End of story. Her surrendering didn't buy time, it put them all to death. Panthro showing up was not something she knew was coming and was trying to hold out for, she was trying to save her boyfriend and lost sight of the goals. Had Panthro arrived 10 minutes later, they'd all be dead. Lion-O's refusal to surrender was the right call, they have to keep fighting or it's over for them. Which is the essence of the problem; while as mentioned she isn't Lion-O's blind supporter, everything she did was in support of him until the last bit, where suddenly she is a new character, openly defying him, antagonizing him, and putting the group at risk because she's got a new boy toy. Quote:
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Also, let's say Cheetara did choose Lion-O. And when Tygra was captured tossed down her staff and surrendered. I wouldn't feel any different, she betrayed the team and would still be a terrible character. Honestly, most of the cats are pretty poor characters for that matter. Actually, to be entirely honest, I probably won't be debating this any further, to do so would require more passion for this series then I feel the staff making the series have put into these episodes. Personally I find it astonishing how they could've gone from such a strong introduction and early episodes to the point where the series is just bland to the point of indifference. (Lastly, Grammar Nazi; It's cents, as in currency, not sense, as in feel.) |
I love when someone repeats what I said with much prettier words but as I stated before I agree with Prime and I believe staff was really forced on to this because there was no need for trials up till now.
Now Lion'O has an excuse for trials. He needs a second chance, he needs to fix Chetara's and Tygra's mistakes, he needs to save kittens, he needs to reclaim the SoO, he needs to unite animals, he needs to become a true king. I still believe they can pull it of, they did few good moves in ep 14 and I believe it will get better in upcoming episodes. |
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The Armour of Omens will be something good to see. Hopefully will be a more modern one and not the one we've seen already. And lets hope hasbro releases is in a proper scale and not the giant version they gave us. We don't need a regular Lion-O to put inside.
I think we will see new Thundercats soon and probably one female which will be Lion-O's new love. Pumyra ? |
I was thinking this morning. People say she's not doing her job as a cleric. But Tygra is also Lion-O's brother. The clerics are the "guardians of the crown" and most places, I think, the crown is the whole royal family. She could very well be sworn to protect both of them.
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Wow, four months of waiting and we get this episode? By far the worst writing of the fledgling season. The love triangle thing is a total mess. The animation was unimpressive and Panthro's stretchy arms are an abomination! Why do the Thundercats need so many useless new powers? Cheetara's staff with roots? It hasn't helped them much. Tygra's gun play? Meh. Now Panthro with bendy arms - is this so we can have a Stretch-Armstrong Panthro toy? I thought that the voice they chose for Addicus definitely did not match the barbarian theme. He spoke with a sophisticated British accent! It was comical! Now Mumm-Ra is using psychopaths to lead his pathetic lizard army. What has happened to this show? Remember the lizard army that destroyed Thundera? What happened to those guys and all their mecha? I hope Saturday's episode will fix this mess.
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At the end of the ep when panthro says we need to stick together cheetara and tygra have this look on their faces like they have a different plan of heir own, so again i question their commitment to rebuilding thundera
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Jaga told lion-o he needed more than just the stones to beat mummra. Jaga was telling him he needed the animals. I think tygra and cheetara's plan would be beat mummra, well they try and lion-o will have to save them. |
Okay, it seems like the whole cast got hit with the idiot ball this episode. Let's put it this way. On one side, we have a cat who can turn invisible, has a long range weapon and has a GUN. We have another cat who's super super fast, like speedster fast and can apparently make...wood grow. (bad innuendo) And then we have a cat who has a magical sword and 2 stones of great power. On the other side we have...a dog, a monkey and a lizard with a gun. HTF DID THEY LOSE SO BADLY!?!?!? Seriously, looking at all the abilities one party has, they should be wiping the floor with the other side.
The love triangle won't stop so quickly, for one simple reason. Romance drama sells -_- Teens love it and it starts shipping wars. Plus the way they were talking about the triangle before the show started airing, I expect the romance drama to continue on for quite a while. Um, no. In other places maybe but it's proven in thundera that the crown = can only be carried by lions, which in this case is only Lion-O.[/QUOTE] You are correct on the love triangle, we will see more of it in the next episode. Love triangle seems like it is in every thing now. Tygra switched places with lion-o, he wouldn't surrender. Cheetara is so OOC in this episode. Clerics serve the king. Secert Service is going to protect the President before the Vice. |
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I will quit the show if I am foreced to accept pumyra. I would rather lion-o have no one even if T/C are the final couple. |
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It was a good introduction to Monkian and Jackalman. The voices will take a bit to get used to but I like the fact that they are more than just two dumb mutants who the T-Cats fight week in and week out.
I like how Lion-O reacted to the whole Cheetara situation and how he confronted her. Hope to see more of the classic characters introduced into the new toon. |
I also liked that Lion-O confronted Cheetara but why after he tells Cheetara and Tygra that he's happy for them? Why not bring it up his confusion when the three are together? Cheetara's excuses for why she led him on were ridiculous! Her telling Lion-O that Tygra set her up to lead Lion-O on is outrageous! I think the writers have a tough job stuffing a lot of story into very short episodes but perhaps if they tried to concentrate on some continuity things would work themselves out. Characters are constantly contradicting themselves, they forget their abilities and weapons. They fight when they shouldn't and surrender at the worst times. Lion-O seems less mature now then when he left the ruins of Thundera. I still can't believe that the Thundercats team is not in agreement as to how they will continue to fight Mumm-Ra's army and to what end!
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Jaga said watch over him, not anything else. Remember they want to add layers to the characters and they want to make it tough for lion-o. |
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Lion-o was the King, cleric's duty is the king first and then everyone else. |
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So you could say lion-o feels betrayed by cheetara three times. 1. Kiss 2. Taking Tygra's side 3. Surrendering I think the last one was the final straw. |
At the rate things are going, Mumm-Ra should just manipulate everyone to win the day. If he saw how fragile the trust between the team is, he would just be like "that's all it took? Just let them fight over a woman?". "Transform this decayed form to Cheetara" lol. Hopefully the future episodes bring closure to the love triangle and redeem the characters, since they pale in comparison to the classic ones, (except Panthro he cool).
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While Tygra may be part of the Royal Family, Cheetara directly disobeyed the King in order to protect her boyfriend, which in end would have only served to get them all killed faster. Her decision did not aid either Tygra or Lion-O. Cheetara’s decision to surrender was emotional while Lion-O’s decision to continue fighting was the only rational option left as it seemed like a no-win situation. You want to challenge someone’s authority? Want to make a symbolic gesture to prove your eternal love (which incidentally sprang out of nowhere) to someone? Great, go for it, but not during most precarious moment on the battlefield. |
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In fact if they had strictly followed everything he tells them to do he would've been running into that fight alone and they would've went back to the Berbil village.
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When Slythe asks Lion-O to surrender, he replies “Never!” After Cheetara throws down her weapon, Lion-O asks her what she’s doing and reminds her that she told him that they must “stick together.” She then rubs it in Lion-O’s face, saying she has to stick with Tygra. She not only defies Lion-O, she gives the enemy useful knowledge about the power dynamics within the team. Perhaps, I should have said she ‘defied’ him? Either way her actions were driven by emotion, she doomed them all when she surrendered. On a side note, Tygra’s smirk at Cheetara’s reply is most amusing, considering a spear was being held to his back. |
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Lion-o is the crown or should I say the lions. Clerics are their body guards. |
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No one knew panthro was coming, they thougth he was still getting his new arms. Good thing the kids knew something is wrong with lion-o. |
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She is acting OOC. She is lion-o's subject and she bailed on him. |
since we're talking about the secret service, make a few of them to choose between the president and their wives. Some may still choose the president, but I guarantee all of them wouldn't.
I mean geeze people she might be his subject, and she might be his bodyguard, but she is NOT his slave. "she let her feelings get in the way" well you know what? she's not a robot either. |
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BTW, the SS aren't the presidents slaves either but they do have a sacred duty. The fact you think duty = slave is very telling. I mean, look at it this way. If the SS saves the president, they spare the country from anarchy and turmoil. If they choose to let the president die to save the wife/kids/random puppy/whatever, they have just fulfilled the trope 'GJ breaking it hero' |
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I don't think that duty = slavery. And not once did I say that. I was saying the exact opposite of that. Ya'll are the ones that seem to think that she has to do everything Lion-O wants her to. |
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She not only does a 180 turn and chooses Tygra, but she also refuses to stand by Lion-O when he needed her the most. Cheetara’s decision was incredibly naïve. Slythe has been hunting the ThunderCats since Thundera fell and he’s even brought in new Generals to help deal with them. What did she think they would do when they surrendered? Let them live happily ever after? Maybe the writers did this just to rub it in Lion-O’s face a bit more. Maybe they feel the only way to build Lion-O’s character is to first break him down completely. And then do it some more. |
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_______________ Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint. |
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No Secret Service agent would choose their wife over the President. Ever. It's what make them part of the detail of the Secret Service. |
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