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Originally Posted by Chique

Last thing, I swear
I'm not asking him to change his preference. I said it was offensive because breast size and it's apparent importance in how we criticize women (fictional and real) is offensive. He can be a big titty man all day and I wont give a damn. If a woman comments on your muscles or any other part of your anatomy and then deems you something other than a man, then tear into her.

See, the funny thing is that you took offense to one part of what he said made Pumyra look like a dude. Out of all the things, you focused on the boobs. So...I guess big eyebrows are okay to judge a woman by then?

And secondly, this is a drawing, what others might call art. Notice I said art, not Art. What's art based on? Aesthetics, which means how people perceive the look of the drawing is very important. Unless you're one of those impressionist painters -_- There is nothing wrong with said guy using his own preferences to say 'nah, this chick doesn't do it for me'

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His opinion on what makes a woman a woman is irrelevant and worthless. He is not a woman, he does not identify as a woman. He doesn't know what it's like to be a woman or to have his breast criticized for being too big , too small or the wrong shape, or whatever standards breast are held to. He can speak on it all day, but at the end of the day his opinion on breast should not be taken into consideration ( once again, HE doesn't have breast) so why bother commenting on her lack of rack? Male or female OP, the comment was stupid and offensive, but it's coming from someone who has no breast but obviously feels like he should toss in his two cents
I'm not trying to stop him from speaking out. I'm not going to drive to his house and stop him from posting or talking. All I'm saying is that he has no business speaking up on breast size and how it pertains to a woman being a woman.

We must have boobs to comment on boobs? Stop the presses! Next thing we know, only politicians can comment on other politicians, only criminals can judge criminals and only artists can judge other artists.

Should his comment be taken into consideration? Depends, is the artist of Pumyra going for an all-female audience for Tcats? If not, then sure, his comment should be taken into consideration. Whether it's given weight or not is another matter. You shouldn't dismiss things just out of consideration because people aren't female -_-. What your stance here basically is 'if you're not female, don't express an opinion female drawings'.

And women comment on men being men all the time. I'd say unless you have a plan to brainwash the majority of humanity into being politically correct drones, just learn to pick certain battles to fight -_-

Btw, males DO have breasts -_- So yay, I guess we can continue talking about boobs. Thank goodness, I thought I was going to have to talk about actual topics, like you know, feelings or something.

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It's personal, but not just. I am not the only woman who is sick of hearing about breast size, and about how the perfect figure must be a replica of
Jessica Beil or Halle Berry's figure.

Eh, I prefer jessica alba or the chick from 'how i met your mother'

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Pssht I'm over feeling inadequate over stuff like that. Sure it bothers me that some people feel they have the right to speak up on something they know nothing about or will never have to face criticism for, but I don't feel any pressure or heat to change the way I look. This is not about some desperate need to fit in. I just feel like my status as someone who does have breast and a vagina might be more ( or profitable at all) profitable to a conversation about breast, over someone who has neither breast or a vagina As a woman who is not a Jessica or a Halle, I have to face these types of criticism.My opinion on it matters more than someone who will never face these criticisms. Now if I go to a picture of Lion-O and comment on his lack of bulge or w.e and then imply or state that he is less of a male, then I have way over stepped my bounds. I will never know what it's like to live with how other people feel about small dicks,so I really have no place talking about how un-manly someone is for have a small one.

Interestingly, your first correlation to boobs is..dicks. This is despite the fact that not all of them are genitalia and that it's fairly obvious to be able to see boobs on a clothed female than it is to see dick size on a clothed male. There's probably something freudian about this comparison....

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LOL, I'm not complaining about our nations BS standard of beauty or talking about how all it serves to do is fuel insecurites and inaduqecy in people from the moment they can comprehend what those things are, at least not in that particular post and not in this forum Please, don't feel obliged to give me the plain jane run down In no way am I asking for it, and I never meant for my post to imply that I need it. While I'm sure your advice is good natured, you have no business telling me how to deal with my hypothetical problem because you wont ever have to deal with my hypothetical problem. Now I wont drive to your home and stop you from talking about it, but I'm letting you know your opinion/advice wont be taken into consideration because you will never deal with this particular problem. Once again, the idea that you even think you can give me advice on how to handle it is way out there. I don't think my one forum post is going to change anything, and I never said it would. I'm not trying to change anything.

tldr; I'm female and you're not so don't come giving me advice.

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I have every right to talk about how disgusting his comment is. Just like he has the right to state his opinion. I don't need to find bitter people or whatever the hell you're talking about. Anywho it's not about that. All I'm saying is his opinions and criticism of breast are worthless. The fact that he thought it was even ok to comment on her lack of rack is just...no. He has no breast and will never be criticized about the way his breast look so...no. Coming from any gender it would be disgusting, but coming from someone who will never face criticism about it is a higher level of "just no".

Except he might have....manboobs. At which point, he WILL be criticised on how his breasts look.