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[Chique]

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Originally Posted by Lunchie

I remember reading early interviews with the creators regarding this show. The way they talked, they seemed they were trying to make a "young-adult" or a "more mature" cartoon show.

When doing so, I imagine that you would need to be consistent with your characters. Futurama, Family Guy, and other comedy cartoon shows can have characters acting one way an episode and a completely different way another episode because of the genre. If you're being serious however, than characters need to have a set personality and (pending alien mind control) act within their parameters barring outside stimulus.

First of all, I don't like blaming Cheetara for my hatred of everything from episode 13 and onward. I DO blame the writer's for using her as a spoon to sir up the drama that frankly was not necessary or welcome. Trust me, I would RATHER be blaming Tygra! Unfortunately though, Tygra has been the most consistent alongside Lion-O (save occasionally forgetting his previous life lessons) in that he's still a smug Jack-Ass with a "reported" soft side (do not give me the *he probably had it hard as a kid* reasoning, the show has yet to make me buy it) and he hasn't strayed too far from these parameters.

Cheetara was the mediator between Tygra and Lion-O, the voice of reason when they started butting heads. She was the body guard who took the entire group as her charge. She was the one telling Lion-O he could when everyone had/or still was telling him he can't. Now what is she? Surrendering herself to the generals to ensure ONLY Tygra's safety? Constantly worrying about Tygra, the capable warrior, instead of the welfare of Lion-O, her king, or welfare of the team as whole?

Hell if she had a moment in the show when she said "you know, I've devoted my life to the service of others without focusing on what I want for the majority of my young life. Is this really my entire life? My future? is this really what I want?" Then I would have bought it as development (questionable development but development none the less) and wouldn't be here on this forum complaining.

Also ( I really am sorry, I have just really had a lot on my mind), Lion-O willing to keep fighting when Tygra is captured, MAY have had a flavoring of malice due to the love triangle, but, given who they were up against, it was probably their only way out alive (save a Panthro intervention).

My blame is on the writing. Maybe if the show was guaranteed a 52 episode run, they would have spaced all this out with development. As such, now it's make it or break it. To their credit, I have never been following a show THIS closely (even if it is for the wrong reasons)

I did like this episode and can't wait for the next, because honestly, I can't predict what's going to happen next (for better or worse).

I'm open to this idea, but I need some proof. In what way has Cheetara acted like a mediator? The only time I remember her coming between an argument is when she told Tygra they couldn't risk using the tank in episode 12. What's funny is that Jelenic did an interview in which he stated he DID NOT want to make Cheetara the voice of reason in the group. Here the interview:Thunder Thursdays: Know Your ThunderCats! - TV Preview at IGN

She has never said Lion-O couldn't be a good leader, or that he was incapable of defeating Mumm-Ra. He had a bad idea, and so she told him so. When has she ever encouraged one of his bad ideas? In episode 14 when Lion-O confronted her about her actions, she told him she still sees the potential in him to be great. She has not stopped believing in him.

She wasn't only worried about Tygra. She showed up to the match because Lion-O was there. We can't really say she sacrificed Lion-O. He has the sword (..he dropped it..), Tygra was being held at knife point with his body wrapped in a whip. I'm not saying her logic wasn't flawed. If it was meant to be a flaw, then great. Lets work on fixing it through story line and development . Where is she CONSTANTLY worrying over Tygra? Even so, it's her boyfriend. Whose expecting her to act exactly the way she did before 13? Once again who she was before really had no ideas or opinion about anything other than Lion-O.

I'm not saying she does or doesn't think about herself. I'm just stating what we've seen, and since the premier all of Cheetara's dialog has been about supporting Lion-O. She needs more than just that if we are expected to become attached to her. Her making a choice or having an opinion on something other than Lion-O, is a step in the right direction as far as growth.

I agree, consistency is important. But so is growth and development. Actively disliking a character is better than having no opinion on them at all. Also, this show has a different format than Family Guy. Those characters will never change or grow into something different from who they were 30 episodes ago. They don't develop. It doesn't matter if you watch episode 20 before you watch episode 7, because Meg will still be a love starved middle child, and Peter will still be an idiot with the thought process of an 8 year old. They are not aiming for an end, because there is no "end".As for Thundercats, we are expecting these characters to have changed and grown between now and episode 52.

It's not a question of maybe the love triangle got to Lion'O's head. It did. The Lion-O we got during season one would NEVER sacrifice his own brother. He would have found another way. It was pure malice.

Do you watch Young Justice? Superboy started off really hostile and hot headed. A hand full of episodes later and he's able to think with his head more. It's not just punch punch punch! " There's a time to go in strong, and a time to go in smart." Megan started off really unsure of herself and insecure. She was also dumbstruck by Superboy. Episode 3 Megan would never tell Superboy to lay off, but episode 12 Megan sure did!