Thundercats Episode 14 New Alliances Discussion

cmangund · 03-30-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Wouldn't have a love triangle.

It will be a quadangle or "quadangle" after Pumyra comes into "play".

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Ruthie · 03-30-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Agree. There is no point to kill him off. My coworkers who don't watch Tcats think that is stupid.

Whoa, whoa, wait. How do your co-workers, who don't watch Tcats, know enough about the show to think it's stupid to kill Lion-O?

Ruthie · 03-30-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yeah, its definately not a pleasant environment if you don't worship T/C.

Yeah, this L/C worship environment is MUCH better!

stormbringer · 03-30-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

It will be a quadangle or "quadangle" after Pumyra comes into "play".

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Since Pumyra is going to be a gladiator, I wonder if she and Cheetara will have a cat fight like they nearly did in the OS?

cmangund · 03-30-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Since Pumyra is going to be a gladiator, I wonder if she and Cheetara will have a cat fight like they nearly did in the OS?

Whatever the reasons, be it "quadangle" or quadangle or tetraangle or "tetraangle" with Bengali and/or other reasons, high chance we will see the catfight of Cheetara VS Pumyra in "muddy" actions.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

stormbringer · 03-30-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Whatever the reasons, be it "quadangle" or quadangle or tetraangle or "tetraangle" with Bengali and/or other reasons, high chance we will see the catfight of Cheetara VS Pumyra.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

I wonder if Bengali will be Tygra's long lost brother?

cmangund · 03-30-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I wonder if Bengali will be Tygra's long lost brother?

High chance I think, since practically speaking Bengali is part of a Tiger clan. Will add some drama to Lion-O and Tygra's "damaged" brotherly relationship. Provided Jelenic is "smart" enough to write Bengali properly.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

stormbringer · 03-30-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

High change I think, since practically speaking Bengali is part of a Tiger clan. Will add some drama to Lion-O and Tygra "damaged" brotherly relationship. Provided Jelenic is "smart" enough to write Bengali properly.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Yeah, it should be interesting seeing how Lion-o and Tygra's brotherly relationship, handles Tygra meeting his biological brother. Here's hoping Jelenic doesn't blow it.

cmangund · 03-30-2012, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yeah, it should be interesting seeing how Lion-o and Tygra's brotherly relationship, handles Tygra meeting his biological brother. Here's hoping Jelenic doesn't blow it.

Maybe Bengali will have an eye for Cheetara...There you go Tygra got another "competition".

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

stormbringer · 03-30-2012, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Maybe Bengali will have an eye for Cheetara...There you go Tygra got another competition.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Ah, a new triangle. Tygra may not have as good luck against Bengali, as he did Lion-o.

L08e16o · 03-30-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruthie

Whoa, whoa, wait. How do your co-workers, who don't watch Tcats, know enough about the show to think it's stupid to kill Lion-O?

You talk at work don't you?

cmangund · 03-30-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Ah, a new triangle. Tygra may not have as good luck against Bengali, as he did Lion-o.

The anorexic ho will be "in Love" with Bengali too, after seeing Bengali's "big hammer", nothing compared to Tygra's "gun" Thus things will get really messy indeed.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Balgus82 · 03-30-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

You talk at work don't you?

Not about tv usually. Most people I've worked with don't watch the same type of shows that I do. I find it a little unusual that they talk to you about Tcats if they don't actually watch it.

stormbringer · 03-30-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

The anorexic ho will be "in Love" with Bengali too, after seeing Bengali's "big hammer", nothing compared to Tygra's "gun" Thus things will get really messy indeed.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

So will Lion-o and Pumyra get together, while the tiger brothers fight for Cheetara's affection?

cmangund · 03-30-2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

So will Lion-o and Pumyra get together, while the tiger brothers fight for Cheetara's affection?

Pumyra may have eyes for the three of them too, Tygra, Bengali and Lion-O.
So there you go, a verrry messy love story in the making by Jelenic.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

stormbringer · 03-30-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Pumyra may have eyes for the three of them too, Tygra, Bengali and Lion-O.
So there you go, a verrry messy love story in the making by Jelenic.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Yep, sounds like Jelenic!

cmangund · 03-30-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yep, sounds like Jelenic!

So in the end Lion-O/Tygra/Bengali/Cheetara/Pumyra will be "busy" sorting it all out while Mumm-ra has conquered the planet.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

stormbringer · 03-30-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

So in the end Lion-O/Tygra/Bengali/Cheetara/Pumyra will be "busy" sorting it all out while Mumm-ra has conquered the planet.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Dang it! This why the writers should have left out the romance!

L08e16o · 03-30-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Not about tv usually. Most people I've worked with don't watch the same type of shows that I do. I find it a little unusual that they talk to you about Tcats if they don't actually watch it.

They watch anime. They are not into the Tcats.

They don't like the main hero being killed.

L08e16o · 03-30-2012, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

It will be a quadangle or "quadangle" after Pumyra comes into "play".

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Then Panthera comes back from the dead.

stormbringer · 03-30-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Then Panthera comes back from the dead.

Lion-o's true love.

CCDustyV · 03-30-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire

Nicely said, and I don't think the creators were trying to portray her that way at all (nor do I see her like that). She always cared deeply for Tygra but had an obligation to Lion-O. Unfortunately she's still young herself and the way she went about things contributed to (but are not solely responsible for) someone getting hurt. She's not perfect, she still makes mistakes.
EVERYONE in this show makes mistakes because the only way you can have strong character development is if those characters have flaws they need to overcome. Lion-O has his brashness and self-doubt, Tygra has his jealousy and resentment, and Cheetarah has to learn that maybe she doesn't know as much as she thought she did (please don't claim I'm accusing her of being a know-it-all, that's not my intention).

Actually I think Cheetara's biggest problem is the same one it showed in the flashback. Patience. She still jumps in without looking twice like a textbook speedster. in fights and in relationships me thinks.

vincheng2k5 · 03-30-2012, 10:34 PM

I'm disappointed that Cheetara went from a strong female character to "the token female love interest who is to blame for EVERYTHING." How did this happen?

The portrayal of women in this show is deteriorating so quickly....

SirSapphire · 03-30-2012, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vincheng2k5

I'm disappointed that Cheetara went from a strong female character to "the token female love interest who is to blame for EVERYTHING." How did this happen?

The portrayal of women in this show is deteriorating so quickly....

I don't think she's to blame for everything, and I don't think the producers think she's to blame, mistakes were made on both sides. Fans like to distort things to conform to their own personal version of how things should work. Personal experience comes into play too. Anyone who's ever had a crush friend-zone them could easily demonize Cheetarah and project their own assumptions on to her. Likewise someone who has unwittingly been the object of a crush that ended up inadvertently hurting their friend's feelings can do the same with Lion-O.

Cheetarah's still a good character who has some development to go through, that's all.

cmangund · 03-31-2012, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Then Panthera comes back from the dead.

So it will be "three on three" then: L/C/T/P/B/Pt.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

theking · 03-31-2012, 02:54 AM

No matter how much we seem to dislike what the writers are doing, they don't seem to plan to stop till they satisfy they're own predictions lol. My only hope still standing is what they plan to do with Lion-O after his trials, if he emerges as a total badass with a more mature attitude then I will forgive they're past transgressions (until they destroy the plot again).

Jaga learned his lighting powers from Darth Vader, force lightning!!!

Balgus82 · 03-31-2012, 07:07 AM

you mean the emperor. Vader couldn't use force lightning because of his cybernetics.

mihoshi · 03-31-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire

I just think Lion-O's gonna come out of his trials as a badass worthy of the titles "Lord of the Thundercats."

Agreed

mihoshi · 03-31-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Since Pumyra is going to be a gladiator, I wonder if she and Cheetara will have a cat fight like they nearly did in the OS?

Any word on when Pumyra, Bengali, and Lynx-O (other than his early cameo) will appear in the series?

hollowdheart · 03-31-2012, 03:37 PM

Pumyra is in the episode after next, i think.

Balgus82 · 03-31-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart

Pumyra is in the episode after next, i think.

nah she's a little after that.
First Trials part 2,
then Native Son,
then Survival of the Fittest
THEN the Pit which has Pumyra.

vantheman77 · 03-31-2012, 04:56 PM

I think Bengali might make his debut in Native Son. New Alliances refers to the new evil generals after Grune was lost in Between Brothers.

Eclipse · 03-31-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I am a big fan of T/P even if lion-o never gets with cheetara..

I come to the thread late but I cannot stop asking this question: since when? You've always said that besides L/C you were shipping B/P!

What changed your mind?

Eclipse · 03-31-2012, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire

It's been mentioned several times that Lion-O probably thought Tygra would have been able to find his way out. He's still gambling with his brother's life (which is pretty irresponsible) but it's because he has faith in Tygra.

You know, just for the sake of argument, Tygra's death could have been a win-win situtation for Lion-O: he gets rid of the brother who questions his decisions, and through his death he gets back at Cheetara for not choosing him. I do believe Lion-O is better than that, but he deadpanned that gamble and I said somewhere else (not in this forum) that he didn't even have the decency of looking guilty nor worried about his brother's fate, so any interpretation could be correct. We could come up with several others but unless they address this issue on the show, none of us is wrong, none of us is right.

Singe · 03-31-2012, 11:29 PM

It's good Cheetara chose to surrender. Lion-O's decision does fall back on his inexperience at being a leader and his erratic behavior.

The show could have had the axe right on the skin of Tygra's neck with one quick slit that even Cheetara at super speed couldn't stop.

hollowdheart · 03-31-2012, 11:33 PM

Excuse me? They all would have died if Panthro hadn't saved them. No, Lion-o's decision fell back because Cheetara wasn't willing to risk fighting and her boyfriend possibly dying, so she gave up and they all got captured. I doubt the writers would have let that happen, they love Tygra too much, and this is a kids show. Please stop talking.

Singe · 04-01-2012, 12:08 AM

Never. Cheetara's decision bought them some time and gave Tygra a bit of extra life time.

Anyway this does fall on Lion-O since he decided to charge head first into the enemies without doing any assessment or planning.

Just this time Cheetara just wasn't in the mood that today was a good day to die.

L08e16o · 04-03-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruthie

Whoa, whoa, wait. How do your co-workers, who don't watch Tcats, know enough about the show to think it's stupid to kill Lion-O?

?????

L08e16o · 04-03-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eclipse

I come to the thread late but I cannot stop asking this question: since when? You've always said that besides L/C you were shipping B/P!

What changed your mind?

Never changed my mind. Always liked tygra and pumyra. I was just saying there are a lot of fans that like bengalai and pumyra.

Always liked to know what happen on 3rd earth with T/P.

Thunderian scholar · 07-04-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7

I loved the bit where Slithe called them a Monkian and a Jackalman.

I was rewatching it and that went over my head!

03-30-2012, 09:17 PM	#705
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer Since Pumyra is going to be a gladiator, I wonder if she and Cheetara will have a cat fight like they nearly did in the OS? Whatever the reasons, be it "quadangle" or quadangle or tetraangle or "tetraangle" with Bengali and/or other reasons, high chance we will see the catfight of Cheetara VS Pumyra in "muddy" actions. _______________ Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint. Last edited by cmangund; 03-30-2012 at 09:20 PM..

03-30-2012, 09:28 PM	#707
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer I wonder if Bengali will be Tygra's long lost brother? High chance I think, since practically speaking Bengali is part of a Tiger clan. Will add some drama to Lion-O and Tygra's "damaged" brotherly relationship. Provided Jelenic is "smart" enough to write Bengali properly. _______________ Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint. Last edited by cmangund; 03-30-2012 at 09:50 PM..

03-30-2012, 09:35 PM	#709
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer Yeah, it should be interesting seeing how Lion-o and Tygra's brotherly relationship, handles Tygra meeting his biological brother. Here's hoping Jelenic doesn't blow it. Maybe Bengali will have an eye for Cheetara...There you go Tygra got another "competition". _______________ Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint. Last edited by cmangund; 03-30-2012 at 09:37 PM..

03-30-2012, 10:42 PM	#724
SirSapphire Man of the Stacks Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Harrisburg, PA Posts: 362	Quote: Originally Posted by vincheng2k5 I'm disappointed that Cheetara went from a strong female character to "the token female love interest who is to blame for EVERYTHING." How did this happen? The portrayal of women in this show is deteriorating so quickly.... I don't think she's to blame for everything, and I don't think the producers think she's to blame, mistakes were made on both sides. Fans like to distort things to conform to their own personal version of how things should work. Personal experience comes into play too. Anyone who's ever had a crush friend-zone them could easily demonize Cheetarah and project their own assumptions on to her. Likewise someone who has unwittingly been the object of a crush that ended up inadvertently hurting their friend's feelings can do the same with Lion-O. Cheetarah's still a good character who has some development to go through, that's all. Last edited by SirSapphire; 03-30-2012 at 10:48 PM..

03-31-2012, 02:54 AM	#726
theking Thunder Kitty Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 23	No matter how much we seem to dislike what the writers are doing, they don't seem to plan to stop till they satisfy they're own predictions lol. My only hope still standing is what they plan to do with Lion-O after his trials, if he emerges as a total badass with a more mature attitude then I will forgive they're past transgressions (until they destroy the plot again). Jaga learned his lighting powers from Darth Vader, force lightning!!! Last edited by theking; 03-31-2012 at 02:59 AM..