Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

Balgus82 · 03-13-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Well, I bet Ireland will show 14-26 with no breaks.

well that theory is out before you even said it. they aired 14 and 15 and then took a break.

L08e16o · 03-14-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

well that theory is out before you even said it. they aired 14 and 15 and then took a break.

Let me state it again. When Ireland starts it up again, I think they will air 14-26.

I wonder if someone told them to hold off showing the other episodes.

Balgus82 · 03-14-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Let me state it again. When Ireland starts it up again, I think they will air 14-26.

I wonder if someone told them to hold off showing the other episodes.

I think they might have. I know when I told DN about them airing in Ireland he didn't even know it was happening. They probably put a stop to it after they got wind of it to avoid the episodes getting posted online.

L08e16o · 03-14-2012, 09:07 PM

Which stone is next?

What do you think the other stones do?

Ruthie · 03-16-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Eclipse

Hi Ruthie!

And welcome!

Thankya, thankyavermuch.

stormbringer · 03-17-2012, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Which stone is next?

What do you think the other stones do?

It's hard to say, since the "war stone" is capable of granting "sight beyond sight", the names may not correspond to the abilities.

cmangund · 03-17-2012, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

It's hard to say, since the "war stone" is capable of granting "sight beyond sight", the names may not correspond to the abilities.

Especially with Jelenic and Co.'s style of writing. They can do whatever they wanted with the stone, no logical limitations. Doing something really crazy and out of nowhere stuff is their hobby.

They will need sight beyond sight and the stone's powers to help locate the real father of Cheetara's unborn cub in season 2.

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L08e16o · 03-17-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

It's hard to say, since the "war stone" is capable of granting "sight beyond sight", the names may not correspond to the abilities.

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Especially with Jelenic and Co.'s style of writing. They can do whatever they wanted with the stone, no logical limitations. Doing something really crazy and out of nowhere stuff is their hobby.

They will need sight beyond sight and the stone's powers to help locate the real father of Cheetara's unborn cub in season 2.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand.

I was thinking the blue stone was next maybe have the power of the mind like telekinesis.

L08e16o · 03-17-2012, 08:51 AM

I still wonder if the they will go out in space in the second season. Will the series end like the OS.

The title birth of the blades, I wonder if that is about SoO and Mummra's sword.

DarkKnight · 03-17-2012, 12:59 PM

good news the t-cats UK comicpreview came out. look whos staring lovingly at cheetara.

L08e16o · 03-17-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

good news the t-cats UK comicpreview came out. look whos staring lovingly at cheetara.

Thanks.

I wonder if that is part of another story.

They are playing that up already.

That for the info on ME!

stormbringer · 03-17-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Especially with Jelenic and Co.'s style of writing. They can do whatever they wanted with the stone, no logical limitations. Doing something really crazy and out of nowhere stuff is their hobby.

They will need sight beyond sight and the stone's powers to help locate the real father of Cheetara's unborn cub in season 2.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand.

Hmmm....Snarf seemed like he wanted to keep L/C apart. I wonder....

cmangund · 03-19-2012, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Hmmm....Snarf seemed like he wanted to keep L/C apart. I wonder....

Snarf is Jelenic's insider pet, one of many L/C destroyers.

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L08e16o · 03-22-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Hmmm....Snarf seemed like he wanted to keep L/C apart. I wonder....

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Snarf is Jelenic's insider pet, one of many L/C destroyers.

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Snarf was the one that got tired of dealing with lion-o. So now he has his revenge.

L08e16o · 03-22-2012, 07:14 PM

I am going on a limb here after watching the video Balgus provided.

One It looks like lion-o will beat mummyra in 16. The video clip where tygra and lion-o are standing next to each other looks like native son, there is a throne behind them.

Who is lion-o talking to when he says he is king of the TCats? It doesn't appear he has the sword.

So once they defeat mummra again, maybe will see more about the other cats (P/C/K/K).

thunderholic · 03-23-2012, 07:28 AM

okay so I was reading through the posts here and I dont think this is relevant to the current conversation but I would like to say that

Lion-O/Cheetara is not canon, and that has been made clear.. how many months ago? So stop being butthurt about it. Don't go poop on Jelenic for not choosing your otp, that's just ridiculous. Thundercats isnt about relationships. Besides, Lion-O's too good for Cheetara. Tygra can keep her.

But anyway, if your entire view of the series depends on who Cheetara chooses then I can't take you seriously.

L08e16o · 03-23-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderholic

okay so I was reading through the posts here and I dont think this is relevant to the current conversation but I would like to say that

Lion-O/Cheetara is not canon, and that has been made clear.. how many months ago? So stop being butthurt about it. Don't go poop on Jelenic for not choosing your otp, that's just ridiculous. Thundercats isnt about relationships. Besides, Lion-O's too good for Cheetara. Tygra can keep her.

But anyway, if your entire view of the series depends on who Cheetara chooses then I can't take you seriously.

Then don't take us seriously, people can choose what they want. Message boards are for discussing if you like something or not.

MJ chose to make it about relationships when he made the love triangle. People like L/C before the series started and liked it even more how they did each episode.

Try telling people on a Naruto message board that Sakura and Naruto are not canon. Lets see how fans react to you.

We don't like how they did it.

cmangund · 03-23-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Then don't take us seriously, people can choose what they want. Message boards are for discussing if you like something or not.

MJ chose to make it about relationships when he made the love triangle. People like L/C before the series started and liked it even more how they did each episode.

Try telling people on a Naruto message board that Sakura and Naruto are not canon. Lets see how fans react to you.

We don't like how they did it.

Freedom of speech.

Jelenic said it himself the triangle is a very important part of the story, thus relationships things are a "big part" of the show, especially now.

What they are doing is a mess of a love triangle story. The worst ever that I have known.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand.

AnonymousIncognito · 05-12-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Especially with Jelenic and Co.'s style of writing. They can do whatever they wanted with the stone, no logical limitations. Doing something really crazy and out of nowhere stuff is their hobby.

They will need sight beyond sight and the stone's powers to help locate the real father of Cheetara's unborn cub in season 2.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand.

Can't agree with you more.

LOL, Cheetara got frisky with Kaynar after he took down that pussy....cat Tygra so easily.

Again, gotta agree with you there. The poopbound comic drew the cut and MJ's "reboot" pours salt in the wound.

AnonymousIncognito · 05-12-2012, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Then don't take us seriously, people can choose what they want. Message boards are for discussing if you like something or not.

MJ chose to make it about relationships when he made the love triangle. People like L/C before the series started and liked it even more how they did each episode.

Try telling people on a Naruto message board that Sakura and Naruto are not canon. Lets see how fans react to you.

We don't like how they did it.

Better words have never been spoken.

AnonymousIncognito · 05-12-2012, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Freedom of speech.

Jelenic said it himself the triangle is a very important part of the story, thus relationships things are a "big part" of the show, especially now.

What they are doing is a mess of a love triangle story. The worst ever that I have known.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand.

I found it interesting that MJ hyped advertisment about the love triangle then Dan Norton comes along and pretty much says there never actually was a love triangle to begin with

I wonder if MJ and DN understand the legal issue of False Advertising?

AnonymousIncognito · 05-12-2012, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderholic

okay so I was reading through the posts here and I dont think this is relevant to the current conversation but I would like to say that

Lion-O/Cheetara is not canon, and that has been made clear.. how many months ago? So stop being butthurt about it. Don't go poop on Jelenic for not choosing your otp, that's just ridiculous. Thundercats isnt about relationships. Besides, Lion-O's too good for Cheetara. Tygra can keep her.

But anyway, if your entire view of the series depends on who Cheetara chooses then I can't take you seriously.

The issue of canon will be something debated for a long time.

The DC comics aren't considered canon by the OS staff and majority of fans and this reboot seems destined for the same.

cmangund · 05-12-2012, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AnonymousIncognito

I found it interesting that MJ hyped advertisment about the love triangle then Dan Norton comes along and pretty much says there never actually was a love triangle to begin with

I wonder if MJ and DN understand the legal issue of False Advertising?

Yeah just more "lies" ...

I don't think they are "smart enough to understand it".

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cmangund · 05-12-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AnonymousIncognito

Can't agree with you more.

Again, gotta agree with you there. The poopbound comic drew the cut and MJ's "reboot" pours salt in the wound.

MJ's "in love" with Tygra. That's why he worked so hard to "upstage" Tygra. He said it himself he wanted to make Tygra "interesting", "interesting" to him was to "beat the crap out" of Lion-O it's very clear now.

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AnonymousIncognito · 05-12-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

MJ's "in love" with Tygra. That's why he worked so hard to "upstage" Tygra. He said it himself he wanted to make Tygra "interesting", "interesting" to him was to "beat the crap out" of Lion-O it's very clear now.

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I found the OS Tygra to be one of the most interesting characters. I find 2011Tygra to be nothing more than a therapists wet dream.

FreakinZoid · 05-12-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Where did Dan say that at? Must've missed that interview.

WonderCon 2011 ThunderCats

WonderCon 2011

-Any other changes to the ThunderCats? Larry (Kennedy) remarked about Cheetara's boob job and Dan (Norton) said she was an anorexic ho. In all seriousness, many other changes were made to differentiate the characters from one another. In the original, all the characters were the same height and build, so if they were silhouetted, you may not know who was who. Panthro was made much larger than everyone else, so he's the strongest. They wanted to change the color palette a little so not all the characters used the same colors. Larry (Kennedy) then made yet another Cheetara joke and said she has arthritis.

FreakinZoid · 05-12-2012, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yeah even though they were "joking" when they were saying those things, but nevertheless the jokes came true.

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Joke or not, it still shows they don't think much of her character.

FreakinZoid · 05-12-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruthie

ROTFL & LOL. Back in my day, folks, this was called IN-STI-GA-TION.

Very true.

FreakinZoid · 05-12-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruthie

I think Cheetara choosing Tygra is great! The reaction from the folks on this board to it is even greater. I haven't laughed so hard in a looooooooooooooooooong time!

Yes, I have noticed the people who ship Tygra and Cheetara do tend to worth quite a chuckle. My word they get defensive.

FreakinZoid · 05-12-2012, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7

Not trying to start an argument here, just curious....Please tell me I'm not the ONLY person not upset over Cheetara choosing Tygra...

I wouldn't have been upset if had been fleshed out better prior.

FreakinZoid · 05-12-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

You have Balgus82, Chique and Eclipse Undying support, definetly.

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Possibly The Three Faces of Eve

FreakinZoid · 05-12-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

*ahem*

Just gonna leave this here....

Tygra doesn't look too happy to be getting kissed.

Burning Bright · 05-12-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

It's hard to say, since the "war stone" is capable of granting "sight beyond sight", the names may not correspond to the abilities.

How is giving additional strategic or tactical information not an ability that corresponds to something called the "War Stone"?

AnonymousIncognito · 05-13-2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Burning Bright

How is giving additional strategic or tactical information not an ability that corresponds to something called the "War Stone"?

Because the ability of sight beyond sight extends beyond the scope of war.

AnonymousIncognito · 05-13-2012, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FreakinZoid

Tygra doesn't look too happy to be getting kissed.

And now you see the true maturity level of Balgus. Antagonizes then cries innocence.

Big Snarf · 05-13-2012, 10:20 AM

Wow

this thread is back

Balgus82 · 05-13-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Wow

this thread is back

Of course. If someone is trying to stir up stuff what do they do? go out and search for the threads people argued the most in and bump them back up.

FreakinZoid · 05-13-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

If someone is trying to stir up stuff what do they do? go out and search for the threads people argued the most in and bump them back up.

Or they could just notice the amount of replies and assume it's a good place to have a discussion.

The way you use the phrase "stir things up" makes it read like anyone who wants to comment is looking to cause trouble.

Balgus82 · 05-13-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FreakinZoid

Or they could just notice the amount of replies and assume it's a good place to have a discussion.

The way you use the phrase "stir things up" makes it read like anyone who wants to comment is looking to cause trouble.

No one goes to a thread that hasn't had anyone reply in two months and think it's a "good place to have a discussion."

Especially when they've obviously gone back and read a bit of the fighting we used to do in this thread.

Anyway this is all I'm posting here because frankly I hate this thread to the core.

FreakinZoid · 05-13-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

No one goes to a thread that hasn't had anyone reply in two months and think it's a "good place to have a discussion."

Especially when they've obviously gone back and read a bit of the fighting we used to do in this thread.

Anyway this is all I'm posting here because frankly I hate this thread to the core.

Sorry. Didn't know you were so sensative. I'll try to be more careful in the future.

Burning Bright · 05-13-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonymousIncognito

Because the ability of sight beyond sight extends beyond the scope of war.

I haven't seen that in this series.

A warning about a coming enemy. Tactical information to acquire vital assets in order to win the war. Revealing hidden enemies.

Can you provide examples of any instance where sight beyond sight was providing information beyond the scope of the war with Mumm-Ra or a more immeadiate battle that the Thundercats were in?

AnonymousIncognito · 05-13-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Bright

I haven't seen that in this series.

A warning about a coming enemy. Tactical information to acquire vital assets in order to win the war. Revealing hidden enemies.

Can you provide examples of any instance where sight beyond sight was providing information beyond the scope of the war with Mumm-Ra or a more immeadiate battle that the Thundercats were in?

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

According to Dan Norton, a lot takes place "off camera" that the viewers never see.

There is still the potential for its early warning system which is more for self-defense than war.

Remember, there are still 20 some odd episodes to go so there is still plenty to see.

Burning Bright · 05-13-2012, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonymousIncognito

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

Quite true. I may have missed something that has already happened. That is why I asked if you could provide any examples of a time where sight beyond sight has been an example of something that would be inconsistent with it coming from the "War Stone".

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According to Dan Norton, a lot takes place "off camera" that the viewers never see.

That's rather open-ended. Did he mention at any time that the function of Sight beyond Sight was being used in ways other than we've seen so far?

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There is still the potential for its early warning system which is more for self-defense than war.

Defense is an aspect of war (well, except for General Patton

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Remember, there are still 20 some odd episodes to go so there is still plenty to see.

31 yet to air of the 52 that we originally heard were contracted and paid for so far. However, we really don't know much of what is going to happen in those episodes so far (at least as far as I've heard).

While we can all agree that there have been numerous inconsistencies in the series so far, I have yet to see (or read about) any instances where the new Eye of Thundera has acted in a way that is not consistent with the label of "War Stone".

Mako Crab · 05-14-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AnonymousIncognito

According to Dan Norton. . . .

I've noticed that the people that have the most problems with this show are also the same ones that seek out every interview and behind-the-scenes snippet to be had. Then, not taking into account that several things may change between the time of the interview and the time the finished product hits the airwaves, they get upset that their expectations weren't met.

I'm going to make a friendly recommendation. Stop listening to these guys. Stop reading the interviews and the behind the scenes stuff. Just enjoy the show as is and don't go into it with preconceived expectations for how the plot is going to unfold.

You should all count yourselves lucky that Michael Bay isn't in charge of the TCats. He loves, LOVES to spread misinformation to purposely screw with the fans that hang off of his every word.

AnonymousIncognito · 05-15-2012, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mako Crab

You should all count yourselves lucky that Michael Bay isn't in charge of the TCats. He loves, LOVES to spread misinformation to purposely screw with the fans that hang off of his every word.

Yeah but at least Michael Bay is known for that. Fans expect it from him.

I don't think too many expect it in a cartoon.

Mako Crab · 05-15-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AnonymousIncognito

Yeah but at least Michael Bay is known for that. Fans expect it from him.

I don't think too many expect it in a cartoon.

See, you're assuming that they're misleading you on purpose, and there's no way you could know that. A lot can change during one good brain-storming session with your creative team. And suddenly that interview you did a couple hours ago doesn't reflect the ideas and direction that you're taking the show in.

I understand why it's annoying. I'm just saying that if you guys would stop following every twitter the writers make, you'd probably enjoy the show more.

CCDustyV · 05-15-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako Crab

See, you're assuming that they're misleading you on purpose, and there's no way you could know that. A lot can change during one good brain-storming session with your creative team. And suddenly that interview you did a couple hours ago doesn't reflect the ideas and direction that you're taking the show in.

I understand why it's annoying. I'm just saying that if you guys would stop following every twitter the writers make, you'd probably enjoy the show more.

also gotta take in mind some of those tweets and posts by the staff could be missdirection themselves, adding fuel to the fire so to speak. Trust eps not interviews.

AnonymousIncognito · 05-15-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako Crab

See, you're assuming that they're misleading you on purpose, and there's no way you could know that. A lot can change during one good brain-storming session with your creative team. And suddenly that interview you did a couple hours ago doesn't reflect the ideas and direction that you're taking the show in.

I understand why it's annoying. I'm just saying that if you guys would stop following every twitter the writers make, you'd probably enjoy the show more.

Actually, Dan Norton did state on FB that the love triangle was intended to purposly mislead the viewers. But, even with his remarks, I am inclined to agree with CCDustyV about episodes and interviews.

Mako Crab · 05-15-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CCDustyV

Trust eps not interviews.

Words to live by.

Jasperoo · 06-19-2012, 07:44 AM

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03-17-2012, 05:09 AM	#7407
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer It's hard to say, since the "war stone" is capable of granting "sight beyond sight", the names may not correspond to the abilities. Especially with Jelenic and Co.'s style of writing. They can do whatever they wanted with the stone, no logical limitations. Doing something really crazy and out of nowhere stuff is their hobby. They will need sight beyond sight and the stone's powers to help locate the real father of Cheetara's unborn cub in season 2. ________________ Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Last edited by cmangund; 03-17-2012 at 05:12 AM..

03-17-2012, 08:49 AM	#7408
L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer It's hard to say, since the "war stone" is capable of granting "sight beyond sight", the names may not correspond to the abilities. Quote: Originally Posted by cmangund Especially with Jelenic and Co.'s style of writing. They can do whatever they wanted with the stone, no logical limitations. Doing something really crazy and out of nowhere stuff is their hobby. They will need sight beyond sight and the stone's powers to help locate the real father of Cheetara's unborn cub in season 2. ________________ Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. I was thinking the blue stone was next maybe have the power of the mind like telekinesis. Last edited by L08e16o; 03-17-2012 at 09:13 AM..

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DarkKnight im gonna blow your mind Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 602	good news the t-cats UK comicpreview came out. look whos staring lovingly at cheetara. Last edited by DarkKnight; 03-22-2012 at 06:17 PM..

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L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by DarkKnight good news the t-cats UK comicpreview came out. look whos staring lovingly at cheetara. Thanks. I wonder if that is part of another story. They are playing that up already. That for the info on ME! Last edited by L08e16o; 03-17-2012 at 04:58 PM..

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L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	I am going on a limb here after watching the video Balgus provided. One It looks like lion-o will beat mummyra in 16. The video clip where tygra and lion-o are standing next to each other looks like native son, there is a throne behind them. Who is lion-o talking to when he says he is king of the TCats? It doesn't appear he has the sword. So once they defeat mummra again, maybe will see more about the other cats (P/C/K/K). Last edited by L08e16o; 03-22-2012 at 07:27 PM..