Opinions on 3rd party figs/add-on kits

Trukkinmunky · 08-25-2011, 07:42 PM

My first cartoon/toy love is Transformers so I'm really familiar with 3rd party custom/add on kits for toys. I was thinking I wonder if anyone would do that with Thundercats. And not just the new figures the old ones as well. I'm not talking 100s of custom items like the Transformers 3rd party stuff, just a few things here and there to make are already cool toys cooler. Some ideas is a weapons pack made with non bendy plastic. A smaller Snarf for the collectors who think he is too big. Just stuff like that. Let me know what you guys think and if you have any other ideas for cool stuff that should be made.

Ravenxl7 · 08-25-2011, 09:21 PM

I've never really been a fan of 3rd party products, but in the case of Thundercats, I wouldn't mind seeing some accessories that the retail releases don't have made by a 3rd party "company". Like a lantern for Mumm-Ra, a mace for Grune like the one he had before he betrayed his brethren, and other stuff like that. I don't have any issues with the bendy plastic used for the weapons the toys have, so I wouldn't get any redoes of those.

Trukkinmunky · 08-25-2011, 10:25 PM

I don't have a real problem with the weapons they come with either. But I would like to see them have more detail. Like red and blue handles for Panthro. And blue on the Sword of Omens. Just little detail like that, cause this softer plastic is harder to paint.

SPLIT LIP · 08-25-2011, 10:40 PM

If they made fully painted non-bendy weapons for the 4 inch figures I'm sure they'd sell like hot cakes.

That'd actually help persuade me to buy the 4 inch figs.

soundwave810 · 08-25-2011, 11:10 PM

Idk about making weapons but I am planning to make stands for the 4" figures.
See:

It's a wip and it's gonna go on a 2.5" diameter round base.
Would you guys be interested in that?

As for accessories and weapons, I could give it a shot.
I'll try Grunes mace. Any other suggestions/ ideas?

Trukkinmunky · 08-25-2011, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundwave810

Idk about making weapons but I am planning to make stands for the 4" figures.
See:

It's a wip and it's gonna go on a 2.5" diameter round base.
Would you guys be interested in that?

As for accessories and weapons, I could give it a shot.
I'll try Grunes mace. Any other suggestions/ ideas?

Anything you want dude. After you get more stuff done I'd make a thread saying what you plan on selling and for how much. I'd be interested in weapons for sure.

soundwave810 · 08-26-2011, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trukkinmunky

Anything you want dude. After you get more stuff done I'd make a thread saying what you plan on selling and for how much. I'd be interested in weapons for sure.

Okay just did some research (re-watched the 1st 2 episodes) and here's what I could make.

Grune's mace
Thunderian Shield and spear
Tygra/ Thunderian(?) sword
Lizard rifle
Lizard daggers
Lizard sword
Mumm-Ra's dagger (the one used to kill Cladus)

I could possibly make the lantern too but it wouldn't have a floating Jaga head (which I think would look cool) and each one would probably be custom made instead of being made from a mold.

Don't know how soon I can make them but I'd work on them during any spare time i have. Cool?

Trukkinmunky · 08-26-2011, 09:31 AM

Sounds cool to me

Thinktank · 08-27-2011, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundwave810

Okay just did some research (re-watched the 1st 2 episodes) and here's what I could make.

Grune's mace
Thunderian Shield and spear
Tygra/ Thunderian(?) sword
Lizard rifle
Lizard daggers
Lizard sword
Mumm-Ra's dagger (the one used to kill Cladus)

I could possibly make the lantern too but it wouldn't have a floating Jaga head (which I think would look cool) and each one would probably be custom made instead of being made from a mold.

Don't know how soon I can make them but I'd work on them during any spare time i have. Cool?

Im in for an accessory pack like that.
Do you use Shapeways?: Shapeways | Passionate about creating
They are awesome for prototyping.
I print in "stainless steel" when I want to have a master for mold
making.

Kregermeister · 08-27-2011, 01:21 AM

re cast the sword of omens but non floppy. And a Mumm-Ra lantern

Trukkinmunky · 08-27-2011, 10:25 AM

Also you can leave them unpainted if you want. Or sell a painted/unpainted version, just something that is made of good plastic that we can actually paint. Unlike the stuff given to us by Bandai.

soundwave810 · 08-27-2011, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinktank

Im in for an accessory pack like that.
Do you use Shapeways?: Shapeways | Passionate about creating
They are awesome for prototyping.
I print in "stainless steel" when I want to have a master for mold
making.

No I usually just use sculpy and/ styrene and mold from that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kregermeister

re cast the sword of omens but non floppy. And a Mumm-Ra lantern

Maybe.... I just don't want to get into any legal problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trukkinmunky

Also you can leave them unpainted if you want. Or sell a painted/unpainted version, just something that is made of good plastic that we can actually paint. Unlike the stuff given to us by Bandai.

I'd use Smooth-On resin which is pretty sturdy but at this size it might be a bit floppy but not as bad as the Bandai weapons/ accessories. Might try something else. I gotta shop around and look at the alternatives. Point is, is that it'll be paintable.

Odds are the spear will be made first since they're the easiest.

Trukkinmunky · 08-28-2011, 03:03 PM

Awesome! I can't wait to see these things all finished.

Vinson · 08-29-2011, 01:15 PM

Yea those lizard men weapons would be really cool to have

LordLionO · 08-29-2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP

If they made fully painted non-bendy weapons for the 4 inch figures I'm sure they'd sell like hot cakes.

I'd be interested in those as well.

Thinktank · 08-30-2011, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundwave810

No I usually just use sculpy and/ styrene and mold from that.

I too do do some of my project work the "by hand" way as well.
to be honest I find it more gratifying. I just like the reproducability
of printed parts.

I am very seriously interested in a few packs of weapons when this
plan comes to fruition.

If you need any assistance let me know.

soundwave810 · 08-30-2011, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinktank

I too do do some of my project work the "by hand" way as well.
to be honest I find it more gratifying. I just like the reproducability
of printed parts.

I am very seriously interested in a few packs of weapons when this
plan comes to fruition.

If you need any assistance let me know.

I find it gratifying to do it by hand too but I also don't know how to sculpt(?) in 3D modeling programs. I'm not opposed to it either tho. Funny thing is, is that when you mentioned Shapeways I checked them out, and I've been there but the whole 3d modeling issue...

If and when I do need help I'll let you know. Btw what kind of help are you offering?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinson

Yea those lizard men weapons would be really cool to have

I'm going to start off with the melee/ edged weapons for the Lizards first since they're easier than the guns/ rifles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trukkinmunky

Awesome! I can't wait to see these things all finished.

Yeah, I'm pretty excited about making these weapons. But one thing. I'll be selling them individually and not as a pack. The good news is that I'll be selling them at a reasonable price w/ reasonable shipping charges. I hate it when ppl/ stores charge you like $5 for shipping, on an items that they only really pay less than $1. I've seen it happen and that's not my style. If I'm gonna make $ I'd rather make it off of the item.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordLionO

I'd be interested in those as well.

I am considering it my friend. The Sword of Omens might be an issue to cast though since it doesn't stay straight but maybe, just maybe....
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So aside from the weapons I'm making a stand and I thought I'd share a the next step in the process.

I just need to tweak it a bit, but it's definitely getting made into a mold tomorrow! What do you guys think?

Thinktank · 08-31-2011, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundwave810

I find it gratifying to do it by hand too but I also don't know how to sculpt(?) in 3D modeling programs. I'm not opposed to it either tho. Funny thing is, is that when you mentioned Shapeways I checked them out, and I've been there but the whole 3d modeling issue...

If and when I do need help I'll let you know. Btw what kind of help are you offering?

Well I can help recast and painting parts.

Also one thing to remember, Tygra's pistol is a handgun that is from the
Lizard-men/Mumm-ra armory. So the handgun is already done in a sense.

That said the rifle is probably the hardest to scratch-build accurately, but
I think I may have some base component ideas that could help speed the
process quite a bit. Luckily I got my 2 Lizard Cannons in the post today.
This will make grip compatability a lot easier.

Now I am off to get some good pics of their rifles for reference.

soundwave810 · 09-01-2011, 11:39 AM

Stand's in the pot being made into a mold. So I thought I'd show you how it looks w/ a figure on it.

Not bad, huh? Would you guys want it white, colored or clear?

Trukkinmunky · 09-01-2011, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundwave810

Stand's in the pot being made into a mold. So I thought I'd show you how it looks w/ a figure on it.

Not bad, huh? Would you guys want it white, colored or clear?

I think a colored would look cool. How much for the little stands?

nitewing73 · 09-01-2011, 09:34 PM

That's great work on the stands. Stands would would a great 3rd party item.

soundwave810 · 09-01-2011, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trukkinmunky

I think a colored would look cool. How much for the little stands?

Not 100% sure on the price YET. But I should figure it out by tomorrow or Saturday. I know this much. If you want a set of 6 (1 for each Thundercat) I'll discount the price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitewing73

That's great work on the stands. Stands would would a great 3rd party item.

What do you mean "would"? It is a 3rd party item! lol

Thinktank · 09-02-2011, 12:36 AM

I'm in for 10 stands as long as they are not crazy expensive.

Why 10?

Lion-O
Tygra
Cheetara
Wilykit
Wilykat
Panthro
Jaga (Snarf can chill on Jaga's till/if a figure is made)
Pumyra
Lynx-O
Ben-gali

Lizard Army Rifle: Progess report>
So far I have found the usual images with the Lizard army infantry
with their rifles at the ready. These guns look like a mix
of an old Soviet WW2 SMG (#) and the new pistols sci/fi styling
with a big effing "Choppah'" on the front. I think I can get about as
accurate as any the other figure weapons to the show version
without having to a ton of time to getting the "master" ready for
some casting.

(#) The PPSh-41 & PPD-40:
"Would you like to know more?"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPSh-41
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPD-40

soundwave810 · 09-02-2011, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinktank

I'm in for 10 stands as long as they are not crazy expensive.

Why 10?

Lion-O
Tygra
Cheetara
Wilykit
Wilykat
Panthro
Jaga (Snarf can chill on Jaga's till/if a figure is made)
Pumyra
Lynx-O
Ben-gali

DAMN! 10? Thank you!
I've actually figured out the price w/ some help from a friend and the pricing goes as such:

$1.50 for white
$2 for color
$3 for clear color

I know they seem kind of pricey but please remember that these are custom made by me.

I'll have the them available at my online store.

Cassette Man Studios

moondog · 09-02-2011, 12:55 AM

Im kinda of thinking we will get a lizard with rifle in this next sereis? its pretty early to be making wepons, I would like a stiff sword of omens

Thinktank · 09-02-2011, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moondog

Im kinda of thinking we will get a lizard with rifle in this next sereis? its pretty early to be making wepons, I would like a stiff sword of omens

It's no biggie for me, I enjoy the art of it as much as anything else.
If Bandai puts out a lizard trooper with his longarm, more power to
them. I'd be pleased to get that accessory from the "source".

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundwave810

DAMN! 10? Thank you!
I've actually figured out the price w/ some help from a friend and the pricing goes as such:

$1.50 for white
$2 for color
$3 for clear color

I know they seem kind of pricey but please remember that these are custom made by me.

I'll have the them available at my online store.

Cassette Man Studios

No sweat. That price is reasonable for this sort of thing.

I may ammend my ordering strategy to 9 opaque and one clear for a certain
spectral advisor, hmmm...

By "color" do you mean red with black or just one color?

soundwave810 · 09-02-2011, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinktank

Lizard Army Rifle: Progess report>
So far I have found the usual images with the Lizard army infantry
with their rifles at the ready. These guns look like a mix
of an old Soviet WW2 SMG (#) and the new pistols sci/fi styling
with a big effing "Choppah'" on the front. I think I can get about as
accurate as any the other figure weapons to the show version
without having to a ton of time to getting the "master" ready for
some casting.

(#) The PPSh-41 & PPD-40:
"Would you like to know more?"
PPSh-41 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
PPD-40 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sounds good, go for it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by moondog

Im kinda of thinking we will get a lizard with rifle in this next sereis? its pretty early to be making wepons, I would like a stiff sword of omens

Maybe it is too early but I'm not at making the rifle at the moment. It's the most time consuming (day job and all) and other weapons are easier to make. Short of making a sword from scratch, the problem of making a stiff sword, is that the original sword is so flexible, that it's very difficult to make a mold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinktank

It's no biggie for me, I enjoy the art of it as much as anything else.
If Bandai puts out a lizard trooper with his longarm, more power to
them. I'd be pleased to get that accessory from the "source".

No sweat. That price is reasonable for this sort of thing.

I may ammend my ordering strategy to 9 opaque and one clear for a certain
spectral advisor, hmmm...

By "color" do you mean red with black or just one color?

I agree about getting an accessory from the "source"

color = red/black
same goes for clear color.
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So the stands are up in the store, so order now while supplies last!

http://soundwave810.ecrater.com/

Trukkinmunky · 09-04-2011, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundwave810

DAMN! 10? Thank you!
I've actually figured out the price w/ some help from a friend and the pricing goes as such:

$1.50 for white
$2 for color
$3 for clear color

I know they seem kind of pricey but please remember that these are custom made by me.

I'll have the them available at my online store.

Cassette Man Studios

These are good prices IMO very reasonable, thanks man.

soundwave810 · 09-05-2011, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trukkinmunky

These are good prices IMO very reasonable, thanks man.

No problem, just be sure to buy some stands from my store

Cassette Man Studios

Also thought you guys would enjoy a work in progress preview of what's coming up next,
Grunes' mace!

moondog · 09-06-2011, 12:24 AM

Nice I just need to find a grune figure

Trukkinmunky · 09-06-2011, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundwave810

No problem, just be sure to buy some stands from my store

Cassette Man Studios

Also thought you guys would enjoy a work in progress preview of what's coming up next,
Grunes' mace!

The mace looks great, when will the painted stands be sold?

soundwave810 · 09-06-2011, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moondog

Nice I just need to find a grune figure

Lol, good luck! I hear Grune is the shortpack..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trukkinmunky

The mace looks great, when will the painted stands be sold?

Painted stands are already available.
If you want a pic, it'll be a day or two before I put them up.

andr0s81 · 09-06-2011, 02:11 PM

nice work! Instead of recasting the sword of omens, why not try molding a new one and fixing what they missed. Make the handle longer , have the blade not go straight into the eye of Thundera, see the 6 inch Lion-O sword for what I'm talking about there, and make the hilt come out just a little further. I'd be down for at least 2 of those.

If you need a straight non bendy sword of omens to start from the deluxe Lion-O has a little bit sturdier sword than the regular Lion-O.

Lion-O* · 09-06-2011, 06:48 PM

It would be cool if someone made a book of omens

soundwave810 · 09-06-2011, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andr0s81

nice work! Instead of recasting the sword of omens, why not try molding a new one and fixing what they missed. Make the handle longer , have the blade not go straight into the eye of Thundera, see the 6 inch Lion-O sword for what I'm talking about there, and make the hilt come out just a little further. I'd be down for at least 2 of those.

If you need a straight non bendy sword of omens to start from the deluxe Lion-O has a little bit sturdier sword than the regular Lion-O.

maybe, just maybe. If I do sculpt/ carve it though, it'll be done at a later date. That and the Lizard rifle take more work to create.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lion-O*

It would be cool if someone made a book of omens

That's on my short list of items to make. It's VERY easy to make. Already have the reference pics!

Blade Raider · 09-08-2011, 07:58 AM

Later today (unless things are delayed), Slayer Design Studio will be reissuing all past ThunderCats parts in their newest preorder. These include everything from 80's accurate Sword of Omens to concept design weapons and bodies.

Here's their front page:
Welcome to SlayerDesignStudio -

All items are 4" scale and made to aid for modern style GI Joe customs. Please read the preorder info page before ordering as they are made to order and only take orders for a period of time.

Since they've recently wiped their product pages, to view "the vault" you have to use the search engine to find stuff. Here's some examples of their TCats parts.

Classic Sword of Omens
Thun-Blade-1

Concept Sword of Omens
Thun-Blade-2 Concept

Classic Lion-O torso (made for use with modern GI Joe style)
Thun Torso-1 Torso only

Classic Lion-O Head
Thun-3 Male

Classic Panthro torso (made for use with modern GI Joe style)
Thun- Torso-2 ( Torso only)

Classic Panthro head
Thun-4 Male

Classic Cheetara torso (made for use with modern GI Joe style)
Thun-female -1

Classic Cheetara head
Thun-6 Female

There's more, just got to look for it. Searching for "thun" brings up most, but there's a few more.

PS They have a forum. Feel free to suggest some items to the owner there.

ersico · 09-08-2011, 11:42 AM

oh wow. will there be a sword for the 6/8 inch scale?

IndyCat · 09-08-2011, 12:08 PM

wow, I had no idea all this was in the thread! lots of good stuff.

I'd be in for 10 stands too!

red base / black head

soundwave810 · 09-09-2011, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ersico

oh wow. will there be a sword for the 6/8 inch scale?

No, sorry, not from me. I'm focusing on the 4" line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyCat

wow, I had no idea all this was in the thread! lots of good stuff.

I'd be in for 10 stands too!

red base / black head

For these?

Head over to my webstore Cassette Man Studios to order some.

IndyCat · 09-09-2011, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soundwave810

For these?

oh hell yeah!

1987olds442 · 09-09-2011, 10:40 AM

Personally I would love to see some better head sculpts. I haven't bought any of the 6" figures yet due to the bad head sculpts. If a 3rd party company would come out with fully painted better detailed heads for the 6" figures I would buy them all.

poisoncow · 09-09-2011, 10:31 PM

Any chance you'd consider making stands for the Classic toys?

Slithe · 09-10-2011, 01:18 AM

The stands look very nice. Is the base color red and you paint the relief black?

soundwave810 · 09-11-2011, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1987olds442

Personally I would love to see some better head sculpts. I haven't bought any of the 6" figures yet due to the bad head sculpts. If a 3rd party company would come out with fully painted better detailed heads for the 6" figures I would buy them all.

I have no intention of working on the 6" line but I am working on some 4" heads of characters like Leo and Tygus!

Quote:

Originally Posted by poisoncow

Any chance you'd consider making stands for the Classic toys?

The 8" classics or the original classic figures? If there is enough interest I'd consider it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slithe

The stands look very nice. Is the base color red and you paint the relief black?

No, they're painted black and red on a white. But I use an airbrush so the the red is smooth and not streaky.

poisoncow · 09-11-2011, 10:49 AM

8" Classics.

soundwave810 · 09-11-2011, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poisoncow

8" Classics.

Like I said, if there's interest in them I'd consider it.
One thing though, you do realize that there aren't any peg holes in the 8" Classics? So IF I do make a stand for them, it would either just a simple stand/ platform w/o a peg or I would make it with something to hold the figure by the heel or something like that.
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That said, who would be interested in an 8" Classics stand?

moondog · 09-11-2011, 01:13 PM

maybe a smaller gun n belt for tygra ?

Thinktank · 09-13-2011, 03:51 AM

I got my line-art done for the "Lizard Rifle" completed.
The "Old Friends" episode give some decent views of them:

Well here we go:

>First is "Cartoon Version"

>Second is the "Toy Version"

Blade Raider · 09-13-2011, 07:58 AM

Alright, SDS has updated (and is still updating) with parts. Most of the TCats heads are up now as well as the Snarf figurine.

Welcome to SlayerDesignStudio -

On their Creature/Other Sculpts page are Tcat heads including (most are pretty low on the page):
4 different Lion-Os (2 concept, one accurate, and a Dogs of War head)
Panthro
Cheetara
Lynx-O
Jaga
Mumm-Ra
Grune
A vulture head that makes a great Vultureman

Snarf is under Animals.

Please keep in mind to read the front page and understand how the site works.

Saint Phe · 09-13-2011, 08:22 AM

SDS stuff is awesome, but I just don't have the patience to wait that long.

08-25-2011, 11:10 PM	#5
soundwave810 Thunder Kitty Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 55	Idk about making weapons but I am planning to make stands for the 4" figures. See: It's a wip and it's gonna go on a 2.5" diameter round base. Would you guys be interested in that? As for accessories and weapons, I could give it a shot. I'll try Grunes mace. Any other suggestions/ ideas? Last edited by soundwave810; 08-25-2011 at 11:14 PM..

08-26-2011, 01:07 AM	#7
soundwave810 Thunder Kitty Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 55	Quote: Originally Posted by Trukkinmunky Anything you want dude. After you get more stuff done I'd make a thread saying what you plan on selling and for how much. I'd be interested in weapons for sure. Okay just did some research (re-watched the 1st 2 episodes) and here's what I could make. Grune's mace Thunderian Shield and spear Tygra/ Thunderian(?) sword Lizard rifle Lizard daggers Lizard sword Mumm-Ra's dagger (the one used to kill Cladus) I could possibly make the lantern too but it wouldn't have a floating Jaga head (which I think would look cool) and each one would probably be custom made instead of being made from a mold. Don't know how soon I can make them but I'd work on them during any spare time i have. Cool? Last edited by soundwave810; 08-26-2011 at 01:18 AM..

08-27-2011, 12:21 AM	#9
Thinktank Thunder Kitty Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 46	Quote: Originally Posted by soundwave810 Okay just did some research (re-watched the 1st 2 episodes) and here's what I could make. Grune's mace Thunderian Shield and spear Tygra/ Thunderian(?) sword Lizard rifle Lizard daggers Lizard sword Mumm-Ra's dagger (the one used to kill Cladus) I could possibly make the lantern too but it wouldn't have a floating Jaga head (which I think would look cool) and each one would probably be custom made instead of being made from a mold. Don't know how soon I can make them but I'd work on them during any spare time i have. Cool? Im in for an accessory pack like that. Do you use Shapeways?: Shapeways \| Passionate about creating They are awesome for prototyping. I print in "stainless steel" when I want to have a master for mold making. Last edited by Thinktank; 08-27-2011 at 01:40 AM..

08-27-2011, 01:26 PM	#12
soundwave810 Thunder Kitty Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 55	Quote: Originally Posted by Thinktank Im in for an accessory pack like that. Do you use Shapeways?: Shapeways \| Passionate about creating They are awesome for prototyping. I print in "stainless steel" when I want to have a master for mold making. No I usually just use sculpy and/ styrene and mold from that. Quote: Originally Posted by Kregermeister re cast the sword of omens but non floppy. And a Mumm-Ra lantern Maybe.... I just don't want to get into any legal problems. Quote: Originally Posted by Trukkinmunky Also you can leave them unpainted if you want. Or sell a painted/unpainted version, just something that is made of good plastic that we can actually paint. Unlike the stuff given to us by Bandai. I'd use Smooth-On resin which is pretty sturdy but at this size it might be a bit floppy but not as bad as the Bandai weapons/ accessories. Might try something else. I gotta shop around and look at the alternatives. Point is, is that it'll be paintable. Odds are the spear will be made first since they're the easiest. Last edited by soundwave810; 08-29-2011 at 11:24 AM..

08-31-2011, 01:51 AM	#18
Thinktank Thunder Kitty Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 46	Quote: Originally Posted by soundwave810 I find it gratifying to do it by hand too but I also don't know how to sculpt(?) in 3D modeling programs. I'm not opposed to it either tho. Funny thing is, is that when you mentioned Shapeways I checked them out, and I've been there but the whole 3d modeling issue... If and when I do need help I'll let you know. Btw what kind of help are you offering? Well I can help recast and painting parts. Also one thing to remember, Tygra's pistol is a handgun that is from the Lizard-men/Mumm-ra armory. So the handgun is already done in a sense. That said the rifle is probably the hardest to scratch-build accurately, but I think I may have some base component ideas that could help speed the process quite a bit. Luckily I got my 2 Lizard Cannons in the post today. This will make grip compatability a lot easier. Now I am off to get some good pics of their rifles for reference. Last edited by Thinktank; 08-31-2011 at 02:21 AM..