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The betrayal was a curve ball in the story. There was never a betrayal, it's all in Lion-O's mind. Tygra and Cheetarah are still in the group and he hasn't threaten to kick any of them out.
He's the guy of the group that has to keep saying, "He's going to get us all killed." Until Lion-O shows he's capable at the leadership position, Tygra will lighten up. Tygra almost killed lion-o in the AP and if lion-o didn't find the spirit stone, they would both be dead. |
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04-02-2012, 04:13 PM | #456 |
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Seriously? We're still having this conversation? Okay, once again: It's not that she chose Tygra over Lion-O, it's that she lead Lion-O on and let him think he had a shot (and since no one seems to listen I'll say it one more time), granted Lion-O should have been more decisive and made his feelings more clear too, but when she hurt Tygra's feelings she apologizes and makes out with him. When she hurt Lion-O's feelings she said Jaga told her to. That's why it pisses people off.
He's being a disrespectful little boy, and owes her an apology. He doesn't care that she's been helping him from the get go, he doesn't acknowledge that she's been a friend and a confidant. All he sees is his own selfish desires, and they are all that matter. Oh, if you don't want to be my girlfriend, then I don't give two damns about anything else. Lion-O's behavior is downright disgusting. How would you feel if someone you cared for talked to you like that, because they didn't want to see you happy? When did she apologize to Tygra for hurting his feelings? |
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Blame the girl for giving a care and having faith for the teenager that lost his father, the kingdom. and all this responsibility thrown on to him. She didn't lead him on. Lion-O assumed that Cheetara fell into his lap. Tygra also assumed the same thing. This was causing problems with the group. Cheetara kept quiet about it for the whole first season because it was irrelevant. However the two hotheads made her decide to tell Tygra to put tensions at ease. However Lion-O saw them and it threw gas on the fire. So now he burns Cheetara for it.
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04-02-2012, 04:16 PM | #458 |
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How was tygra's 80's counterpart boring when aside from lion-o most of the complex things happened around him. He was involve in the sword being broken the first time he has been addicted to "substances" he designed the lair and the third earth vehicles list list can go on. Though his role became smaller towards the end to say he was boring . In the AP tygra is shown that he tried to kill lion-o twice so how is that not a betrayal of someones trust. So i guess making lion-o smaller physically weaker than his 80's counterpart makes it easy for this new tygra to pick on because the 80's lion-o would have this tygra wearing his tail stripes for a hat
Given episode 14 in sacrificing Tygra to keep fighting, the feelings are mutual. |
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She clearly admits she is at fault for what happened and apologized to tygra and it would seem a few weeks have gone by and lion-o now asks her "he didn't just run up on her immediately" what happened. If she felt the need to admit fault and apologize for hurting the feeling of other where is the apology to lion-o. Now if she had apologized to him and he is stays mad at her forever yeah he'd be in the wrong. Few things would make a person angrier than someone who intentionally or intentionally wronged that person and act like nothing happened to that person especially after they make the problem known to said individual
Lion-O doesn't own her. She owes him nothing. Who ever she chooses to be with is none of Lion-O's business. She's the only adult female Thundercat in the group. Lion-O would just move on to another girl. However he doesn't have that option, right now. Last edited by Singe; 04-02-2012 at 04:25 PM.. |
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It's clear Cheetara did not mean for him to interpret her actions in that manner. Lion-O is acting like she OWED him her romantic affections, and so now he wants to be a dick because she doesn't want him that way.
He's being a disrespectful little boy, and owes her an apology. He doesn't care that she's been helping him from the get go, he doesn't acknowledge that she's been a friend and a confidant. All he sees is his own selfish desires, and they are all that matter. Oh, if you don't want to be my girlfriend, then I don't give two damns about anything else. Lion-O's behavior is downright disgusting. How would you feel if someone you cared for talked to you like that, because they didn't want to see you happy? When did she apologize to Tygra for hurting his feelings? |
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04-02-2012, 04:25 PM | #464 |
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Which she tried to put out, but Lion-O gassed it up.
Lion-O wasn't at gun point to walk on that log. He chose to do it of his own choice and the idiot fell in the hole. Tygra told Claudis and owned up to the mistake. Given episode 14 in sacrificing Tygra to keep fighting, the feelings are mutual. |
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She was clearing the air and putting an end to this internal dispute.
Lion-O doesn't own her. She owes him nothing. Who ever she chooses to be with is none of Lion-O's business. She's the only adult female Thundercat in the group. Lion-O would just move on to another girl. However he doesn't have that option, right now. |
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Why should Cheetara apologize? How about he takes the first step and talks to her.
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Really??? seriously???? he fell in after tygra broke the log. Which might have been his intention the whole time. His own words sum that up he said to young lion-o " if something happened to you out here no one would know" hmmm that seems a bit suspect. And what is his excuse for saving lion-o "I was afraid I'd get in trouble with father". Not that it was wrong no I'm your brother I"m sorry and then he goes and does it again. Repeat offender
Just like how Lion-O isn't at fault for anything. |
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He's not even reading what he writes anymore. I think its official Singe is just trolling everyone.
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The point is that Lion-O needs to get over it. His choice to either stay that way or move on. Last edited by Singe; 04-02-2012 at 04:47 PM.. |
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In other words you're just going to keep arguing in this circle even though it doesn't go anywhere.
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So now it a seven or eight year old's fault for following and wanting to play with his older brother that he probably looks up to and trusts and who is like 12 or 13 years old and know better then to go out to the ruins and dare someone younger to do something and do what he did. And that is somehow lion-o's fault. REALLY??? some would call tygra a wanker for that. Lion-o pays for his faults as is evident right now but the other have to take their share of the blame but the writing is that tygra is oh so perfect as stated in ep 1
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And how would an apology hurt? If Lion-o doesn't forgive her fine, but considering all the trouble this has caused, it would be wise (since clerics are supposed to be wise and all), to give it a try, wouldn't it?
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Its more along the lines that the writing is becoming almost as silly as the comics. Thundera was destroyed while lion-o was in the book, but instead of getting lion-o out the book they decide "Oh he said not to disturb him so lets leave him in there while everything gets destroyed". So its lion-o's fault for everything that happened when all they had to do is go get him.
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Jaga: And then you blow ever so lightly in his ear... Cheetarah: ... And this makes him a better king how? Jaga: DO NOT QUESTION IT. |
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It isn't her fault, so why should she apologize? She can't be held responsible for Lion-O's actions. It's unfair that she should have to come crawling back for forgiveness.
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Still, he's mad at her because she doesn't want him romantically. That has nothing to do with Jagga asking her to do her job. He's upset because he didnt get the answer he wanted. |
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How does "I'm sorry", equal crawling for forgiveness? But this debate is clearly just going in circles.
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When you have done nothing wrong, apologizing is crawling for forgiveness. It's humiliating and demeaning. Also it subtracts from the fact that Lion-O is actually in the wrong
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She clearly admits she is at fault for what happened and apologized to tygra and it would seem a few weeks have gone by and lion-o now asks her "he didn't just run up on her immediately" what happened. If she felt the need to admit fault and apologize for hurting the feeling of other where is the apology to lion-o. Now if she had apologized to him and he is stays mad at her forever yeah he'd be in the wrong. Few things would make a person angrier than someone who intentionally or intentionally wronged that person and act like nothing happened to that person especially after they make the problem known to said individual
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something like: "Lion O, you are dear to me, I love you but not in the way you wish me to. I never intended to lead you on and should have made my intentions clearer... I'm so sorry that I hurt you and I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me." would that really be too much to ask from the writers? |
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No it isn't. He PO about the kiss and being lead on. He said watch over him, didn't say get up close and personnel.
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not saying crawling and begging for forgiveness.
something like: "Lion O, you are dear to me, I love you but not in the way you wish me to. I never intended to lead you on and should have made my intentions clearer... I'm so sorry that I hurt you and I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me." would that really be too much to ask from the writers? But we wouldn't have a triangle. |
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Its more along the lines that the writing is becoming almost as silly as the comics. Thundera was destroyed while lion-o was in the book, but instead of getting lion-o out the book they decide "Oh he said not to disturb him so lets leave him in there while everything gets destroyed". So its lion-o's fault for everything that happened when all they had to do is go get him.
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It's the refusal to admit that, unintentional or not, she led him on. There's simply no way around it. Then in the next episode she rubs salt into the wound telling Lion-O he might be "misreading the signals" from the book. This is almost the exact same wording he used in his previous conversation with her. Lion-O didn't misread her signals, she sent the wrong ones. Can we please be done with this now? |
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First, you're as bad as Singe. Second, sometimes even if you feel like you've done nothing wrong you have to make that token gesture of apology in order to fix things. Lion-O does for Tygra when he say's he's happy for them. He's making the first move in trying to fix his relationship with his brother. Lion-O then asks her privately why she did things the way she did (the hand-holding, the kiss, the intimate "lessons") and she claims Jaga asked her to, rather than owning up and admitting that maybe that wasn't the best way to go about it.
It's the refusal to admit that, unintentional or not, she led him on. There's simply no way around it. Then in the next episode she rubs salt into the wound telling Lion-O he might be "misreading the signals" from the book. This is almost the exact same wording he used in his previous conversation with her. Lion-O didn't misread her signals, she sent the wrong ones. Can we please be done with this now? They been using those words on each other the past two episodes. The AP cheetara was better though. She called him a stubborn prince. That was good. |
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The worst part is I don't hate Cheetarah and don't even hold a grudge against her for her actions, everybody screws up. It's just this constant argument of "She did nothing wrong, Lion-O is just a bitch" that irritates me. Yes I would like to see some acknowledgement that maybe the other Cats weren't as nice to Lion-O as they thought at some point, but even if I don't I'm not going to abandon the show or bash its characters. All I'm looking for among the fandom is the simple acknowledgment that every conflict has two sides, and mistakes are almost always made on both.
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