Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

cmangund · 01-31-2012, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

i noticed we're all arguing less frequently now.

Because we have all agreed by Ep52 there will only be three major possibilities:

1. The L/C/T Triangle in equal level with all ships go, including any possible secondary love interests (depending on our individual views on the ships, the keener our individual eyes on the ships, the more transparent too of the obvious L/C, as this is not a "rush job")
2. The Triangle tipping alot more to L/C
3. L/C happened 100% and Tygra/Pumyra 100% or other love interest

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Because we have all agreed by Ep52 there will only be three major possibilities:

1. The L/C/T Triangle in equal level with all ships go, including any possible secondary love interests (depending on our individual views on the ships, the keener our individual eyes on the ships, the more transparent too of the obvious L/C, as this is not a "rush job")
2. The Triangle tipping alot more to L/C
3. L/C happened 100% and Tygra/Pumyra 100% or other love interest

We all have most definitely not agreed on that. And thanks for bringing the triangle up yet again when we were finally discussing something else civilly.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Annet said he would know a betrayal then he would feel betrayed i think annet was talking about the whole pit incident. Annet said before the bell rings which could've been anytime during that day

Remember lion-o told Annet that tygra hasn't betrayed him and Annet's said he hasn't heard the bells.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Not really because leo isn't lion-o. In the book when lion-o relives leo's life he didn't know what to do and needed panthera to help him just like in his own life cheetara tries to help him. The only difference is that panthera is competent and cheetara isn't. Panthera was leo's second in command while i doubt cheetara could be that for lion-o

See, I think the legacy was a foreshadow of things to come.

Yeah, panthera did a lot of the work.

Didn't cheetara take over jaga's role?

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Leo may have decided that the stones and the sword were too much power for one person or kingdom to have and hid the stones and tried to get rid of the sword but the sword chose him and his blood line and the book was kept for records but we see why it also had to be hidden

I wonder if the clerics were made in Leo's time.

Don't you think Leo's blood line would get weak over time with the connection to the sword?

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

His gauntlet had no stones on it in the OS. I guess the stones would be used just like how they were used in the legacy ep so the stones would be weapons on their own

Sorry, should have said Jewels.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

The Gauntlet was made to hold them, but They weren't made for the Gauntlet.

That's a distinct difference. They have power without the Sword and Gauntlet.

Who do you think the stone would be given too?

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Because we have all agreed by Ep52 there will only be three major possibilities:

1. The L/C/T Triangle in equal level with all ships go, including any possible secondary love interests (depending on our individual views on the ships, the keener our individual eyes on the ships, the more transparent too of the obvious L/C, as this is not a "rush job")
2. The Triangle tipping alot more to L/C
3. L/C happened 100% and Tygra/Pumyra 100% or other love interest

I would like that.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Well actually it did have 3 red stones at the nuckles, but they didn't have any special properties other than being grappling hooks.

But I think he was actually referring to the Leo flashbacks and wrote OS by mistake.

I have not watched the OS in along time. I remember the jewels, but I thought there was a green jewel on it too.

Ravenxl7 · 01-31-2012, 09:26 AM

L08e16o, not to sound like a jerk, but...instead of posting six separate posts like that, I would recommend using the multi-quote feature (it's there for this very purpose).

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7

L08e16o, not to sound like a jerk, but...instead of posting six separate posts like that, I would recommend using the multi-quote feature (it's there for this very purpose).

Why am I PO?

Do you think I might be posting from work and my gover%%%*t computer does not allow me that option.

Ravenxl7 · 01-31-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Why am I PO?

Ummm....PO?

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Do you think I might be posting from work and my G computer does not allow me that option.

Honestly didn't know the computer you were on was keeping you from using the multi-quote function, or that could happen. Just giving some friendly advice...

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I have not watched the OS in along time. I remember the jewels, but I thought there was a green jewel on it too.

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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7

Ummm....PO?

Honestly didn't know the computer you were on was keeping you from using the multi-quote function, or that could happen. Just giving some friendly advice...

Am I making you mad with all my post?

When I am home eastern time 6 p.m. to 6 a.m, I will use that function.

7 a.m. to 530 p.m. I am on my work computer and it is very strict on what I can use. The picture that balgus posted yesterday, I couldn't view. There are a lot of things on this site I can't view or is blocked.

Thanks.

Ravenxl7 · 01-31-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Am I making you mad with all my post?

No.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7

No.

Please tell me Raven doesn't stand for the Ravens NFL team.

Dr Kain · 01-31-2012, 11:04 AM

So when is the next episode?

Ravenxl7 · 01-31-2012, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

So when is the next episode?

We don't know. Season two's air date is still a mystery to everybody atm. Part of me will be really surprised if we don't get some bit of news about it from the New York toy fair. Though the sooner, the better.

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I wonder if the clerics were made in Leo's time.

Don't you think Leo's blood line would get weak over time with the connection to the sword?

I think the cats that made the sword were what would become the Clerics, but weren't technically Clerics yet.

And nah if the bloodline got weaker over time Lion-O wouldn't be as strong with the sword as he is.

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Who do you think the stone would be given too?

Well IF the stones all go to the Thundercats and not someone else, then I'd say Panthro would have the green stone because it seemed Technology based, Cheetara would probably get the Spirit Stone, and Tygra would probably get the blue one ( but we don't know what properties that one has yet).

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

So when is the next episode?

We'll hear official news very, very soon. Trust me.....

stormbringer · 01-31-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I wonder if the clerics were made in Leo's time.

Don't you think Leo's blood line would get weak over time with the connection to the sword?

The stone probably has a magical DNA lock.

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

The stone probably has a magical DNA lock.

I asked Dan Norton once and he said any kind of cat can use the sword. It's not limited to just Lions. But it's true power only comes out when it's in the right hands (i.e. Lion-O or Leo).

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I think the cats that made the sword were what would become the Clerics, but weren't technically Clerics yet.

And nah if the bloodline got weaker over time Lion-O wouldn't be as strong with the sword as he is.

Did they say what type of cats they were?

But what made the bloodline strong? It can't be just the male. Not all of the lions were strongly connected to the SoO.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Well IF the stones all go to the Thundercats and not someone else, then I'd say Panthro would have the green stone because it seemed Technology based, Cheetara would probably get the Spirit Stone, and Tygra would probably get the blue one ( but we don't know what properties that one has yet).

Don't you think that would make it easier for mummra to get them?

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

The stone probably has a magical DNA lock.

Good guess.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I asked Dan Norton once and he said any kind of cat can use the sword. It's not limited to just Lions. But it's true power only comes out when it's in the right hands (i.e. Lion-O or Leo).

But what makes lion-o so special. Leo was different.

There is something about Lion-o that is different than the others.

Why did his mom die so soon?

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Did they say what type of cats they were?

But what made the bloodline strong? It can't be just the male. Not all of the lions were strongly connected to the SoO.

I believe they said they were cougars. If my memory is right.

Anyway the bloodline thing is just for the throne. It doesn't necessarily have to be a Lion that uses the sword. It's just that only Lions ruled so only Lions had a chance to try.

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Don't you think that would make it easier for mummra to get them?

No I don't. If only one person has the stones then all Mumm-Ra has to defeat is one person.

If the whole team shares the stones then he'll have to fight the whole team.

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

But what makes lion-o so special. Leo was different.

There is something about Lion-o that is different than the others.

Why did his mom die so soon?

My theory is that Lion-O is the reincarnation of Leo. We know the cats believe in reincarnation because of what they said at Claudus's funeral.
It was like "sleep well to rise again" or something. I don't remember the exact words.

stormbringer · 01-31-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I wonder if the clerics were made in Leo's time.

Don't you think Leo's blood line would get weak over time with the connection to the sword?

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

But what makes lion-o so special. Leo was different.

There is something about Lion-o that is different than the others.

Why did his mom die so soon?

I think "sight beyond sight" isn't just literal, but metaphorical. Lion-o like Leo, sees the importance of equality between all the animals, and its that personality trait that the sword saw in them both.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I believe they said they were cougars. If my memory is right.

Anyway the bloodline thing is just for the throne. It doesn't necessarily have to be a Lion that uses the sword. It's just that only Lions ruled so only Lions had a chance to try.

Thanks.

But at some point you think they would lose the throne.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

No I don't. If only one person has the stones then all Mumm-Ra has to defeat is one person.

If the whole team shares the stones then he'll have to fight the whole team.

I think mummra would attack them when they are seperate from each other.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

My theory is that Lion-O is the reincarnation of Leo. We know the cats believe in reincarnation because of what they said at Claudus's funeral.
It was like "sleep well to rise again" or something. I don't remember the exact words.

So do you think Tygrus is a reincarnation too?

Good theroy.

stormbringer · 01-31-2012, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Thanks.

But at some point you think they would lose the throne.

Well, they kind of have at this point.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I think "sight beyond sight" isn't just literal, but metaphorical. Lion-o like Leo, sees the importance of equality between all the animals, and its that personality trait that the sword saw in them both.

You don't think there is more to it?

Lion-o will be able to tap into the War stone other powers that are not SBS.

Other lions were picked by the SoO.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Well, they kind of have at this point.

I mean in the past.

I think the stones were scattered on purpose. I think the different cat tribes battled too.

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I think mummra would attack them when they are seperate from each other.

Maybe he would, but the point remains he would have to fight 4 separate battles instead of just one.

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

So do you think Tygrus is a reincarnation too?

Good theroy.

I really only think Lion-O is the only one that was a reincarnation of those characters.

It could be possible Tygra is a reincarnation of Tygus as well, but I don't think he is.

stormbringer · 01-31-2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I mean in the past.

I think the stones were scattered on purpose. I think the different cat tribes battled too.

Well, with no technology, and only the Lions with the sword in their possesion, a rebellion against them probably wouldn't work out too well for the rebels.The writers did say that we'll get to see more of what happened in the past. Chances are, that not all the card were thrilled with Leos rule, maybe there was a war that nearly wiped all the cats out, leading to them banning technology from their society.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Maybe he would, but the point remains he would have to fight 4 separate battles instead of just one.

I think his new alliance will get the stone for him.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I really only think Lion-O is the only one that was a reincarnation of those characters.

It could be possible Tygra is a reincarnation of Tygus as well, but I don't think he is.

See I thought they were showing the four characters that will matter in the end. M/L/T/C.

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Well, with no technology, and only the Lions with the sword in their possesion, a rebellion against them probably wouldn't work out too well for the rebels.The writers did say that we'll get to see more of what happened in the past. Chances are, that not all the card were thrilled with Leos rule, maybe there was a war that nearly wiped all the cats out, leading to them banning technology from their society.

Maybe the city holds the key.

I don't think all the cats were to happy with leo after they beat mummra. He went against them and not to mention the power he has with the stones.

stormbringer · 01-31-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Maybe the city holds the key.

I don't think all the cats were to happy with leo after they beat mummra. He went against them and not to mention the power he has with the stones.

Yeah a lot of the cats were probably happy with the old status quo under Mumm-ra, since the cats were clearly favored and Mummra told Leo/Lion-o that the other animals hated the cats as much as him.

Balgus82 · 01-31-2012, 05:10 PM

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See I thought they were showing the four characters that will matter in the end. M/L/T/C.

But think on this.

Leo and Lion-O are both Lions. Tygus and Tygra are both Tigers.

Panthera and Cheetara are completely different types of cat from each other.

Even if Lion-O and Tygra are reincarnations I definitely don't think Cheetara is because she doesn't fit that pattern.

stormbringer · 01-31-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I think his new alliance will get the stone for him.

Mummra better make sure he can trust his new alliance, it'd be pretty sad if he gets double crossed and loses out on a stone again.

Big Snarf · 01-31-2012, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

No I don't. If only one person has the stones then all Mumm-Ra has to defeat is one person.

If the whole team shares the stones then he'll have to fight the whole team.

I doubt he can beat some one who has all the stones when he can't even beat lion-o when he only had the sword. The fact lion-o now has the spirit stone makes it less likely that he can beat lion-o, plus leo totally owned him in legacy when he had all three of them. If each cat has a stone it would be like captain planet with that "let our powers combine" nonsense

stormbringer · 01-31-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

I doubt he can beat some one who has all the stones when he can't even beat lion-o when he only had the sword. The fact lion-o now has the spirit stone makes it less likely that he can beat lion-o, plus leo totally owned him in legacy when he had all three of them. If each cat has a stone it would be like captain planet with that "let our powers combine" nonsense

You question the might of the almighty Mummra!?! Those blasted cats got lucky dang it!

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

But think on this.

Leo and Lion-O are both Lions. Tygus and Tygra are both Tigers.

Panthera and Cheetara are completely different types of cat from each other.

Even if Lion-O and Tygra are reincarnations I definitely don't think Cheetara is because she doesn't fit that pattern.

We know we disagree with this.

So just let me say this and I will leave it alone with panthera.

I think they are a like, but I don't believe the writers were going to make her a cheetara. They couldn't pull of what they did in episode 13. It would be to obvious.

Big Snarf · 01-31-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Remember lion-o told Annet that tygra hasn't betrayed him and Annet's said he hasn't heard the bells.

Trying to kill lion-o is a betrayal. So lion-o did actually get betrayed as well as felt betrayed

L08e16o · 01-31-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yeah a lot of the cats were probably happy with the old status quo under Mumm-ra, since the cats were clearly favored and Mummra told Leo/Lion-o that the other animals hated the cats as much as him.

That is what I think. Leo betrayed the cats and now wants all the power for himself. I could see other cats using that.

01-31-2012, 02:18 AM	#5551
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by DarkKnight i noticed we're all arguing less frequently now. Because we have all agreed by Ep52 there will only be three major possibilities: 1. The L/C/T Triangle in equal level with all ships go, including any possible secondary love interests (depending on our individual views on the ships, the keener our individual eyes on the ships, the more transparent too of the obvious L/C, as this is not a "rush job") 2. The Triangle tipping alot more to L/C 3. L/C happened 100% and Tygra/Pumyra 100% or other love interest Last edited by cmangund; 01-31-2012 at 02:36 AM..

01-31-2012, 10:08 AM	#5561
L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 L08e16o, not to sound like a jerk, but...instead of posting six separate posts like that, I would recommend using the multi-quote feature (it's there for this very purpose). Why am I PO? Do you think I might be posting from work and my gover%%%t computer does not allow me that option. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-31-2012 at 10:17 AM..*

01-31-2012, 10:29 AM	#5565
L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 No. Please tell me Raven doesn't stand for the Ravens NFL team. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-31-2012 at 10:37 AM..

01-31-2012, 04:41 PM	#5587
Balgus82 Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,267	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o I think mummra would attack them when they are seperate from each other. Maybe he would, but the point remains he would have to fight 4 separate battles instead of just one. Last edited by Balgus82; 01-31-2012 at 04:44 PM..

01-31-2012, 04:44 PM	#5589
stormbringer Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,504	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o I mean in the past. I think the stones were scattered on purpose. I think the different cat tribes battled too. Well, with no technology, and only the Lions with the sword in their possesion, a rebellion against them probably wouldn't work out too well for the rebels.The writers did say that we'll get to see more of what happened in the past. Chances are, that not all the card were thrilled with Leos rule, maybe there was a war that nearly wiped all the cats out, leading to them banning technology from their society. Last edited by stormbringer; 01-31-2012 at 04:50 PM..