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01-01-2012, 08:28 PM | #2201 |
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they'd have to do something more severe than that for me to stop watching. though if they had her switch to lion-o in just a couple episodes I'd be pissed because that would be just as out of the blue as her choosing tygra seemed to be and would be a poor reflection on her and just plain bad writing.
if she does end up with lion-o (and im not saying wither she will or she won't) it should be more gradual. stay with tygra a while, then be by herself a while, and then go to lion-o. |
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yeah. I mean I will go on record saying I don't think the situation was handled well. They should've given both brothers equal time (or close to it) with her so that it didn't seem like it came out of nowhere. I understand why L/C people are frustrated.
But some of the things that are said about cheetara and the absolute hatred of tygra are things I don't agree with. Both brothers have been jerks to each other. it's not Tygra's sole domain. All lion-o did was be a jerk about cheetara without knowing about the flower. |
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That is isn't sexist. In the context of the story, male or female, she is tided to lion-o. Her purpose is as cleric first.
What is her purpose if she can't do her first job? I would be happy if the writers would have stayed course. If she didn't chose either, than she would be staying true to her purpose as a cleric. |
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If indeed the show does go with T/C (which I doubt given the last minute rush job to put them together), then Cheetara will have no one but herself to blame for Lion-o's lack of trust in her. After leading him on, intentionaly or not , and seeing her in a liplock with his brother, she will have totally undermined her credibility as a friend or advisor.
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I think something people aren't considering is that for Lion-O to grow there has to be setbacks. He has to loose sometimes. You don't grow if you always win. He has to be able to rise above it and he will become a better king by learning how to overcome adversity than he would by getting everything he wants.
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I believe (and of course it's only my opinion) that Tygra will soften towards Lion-O a little since he has Cheetara. I think she will be a good influence on him. Lion-O, of course, won't get over her easily so that'll definitely still cause friction between them. But it's early in the show still. they need setbacks. if they get all buddy-buddy this soon, what do they have to learn the rest of the series? two steps forward, one step backward.
I'm hoping they'll reconcile a bit by the end of the next 13 episodes. then after that they can work on learning to work more closely with each other better. So lion-o has to suck it up while tygra is rewarded for his behavior. |
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Cheetara is the second thing to Tygra as he said "Just like the sword another thing you don't deserve!" Tygra seeing her as a "thing", its fact.
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exactly. thats still 39 episodes to go. that's a lot of time. lots can change before the end. she could break up with tygra, go stag for a season, and then eventually end up with Lion-O. Or she could stay with Tygra and it could end up for the best. or she could break with Tygra and end up with neither. we don't know yet.
either way the development of the characters isn't solely dependent on who's someone's girlfriend. Trust is important, it can take a long time to heal or have someone trust you again. |
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did you watch any part of between brothers other than the last 2 minutes? tygra had lion-o beat. if he really wanted the crown so bad he could've easily had it. what did he do? he let it go, and the sword disappeared from his hands.
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i still don't understand why you assume lion-o no longer trusts cheetara when we haven't seen any scene after the kiss.
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01-01-2012, 08:39 PM | #2216 |
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hey cmangund lion-o just earned an achievement: bonner of omens
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Yeah and even IF they will not tie the Cheetara connection with the triangle (which is highly unlikely, considering all the data) then we are back to the basic analysis of her in a deadlock, cannot choosing between the brothers, even if after she has chosen either one of them then knowing she is hurting the other brother's feeling and vice cersa as in this scenario http://www.thundercats.ws/thundercat.../19/#post24312 because that's her character.
She is a cleric first, she has to work with lion-o no matter what. |
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01-01-2012, 08:41 PM | #2219 |
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I agree but all we can do now is hope for the best
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If cheetara would have done everything she did to lion-o as he did to me, I would think she is into me. She should have approach lion-o first and let him down, if that what she wanted to do. As we know she didn't. Basically she went behind his back. She was not honest with him to begin with. I like cheetara too. |
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what I don't understand though is why some people seem to think that his jealousy for lion-o having the crown and his jealousy over cheetara can't exist without the other. you're going "he's only jealous over cheetara because lion-o has the crown" and that just doesn't make any sense. they're two different things. is he also jealous over lion-o's clothes because he has the crown? his haircut? he's not jealous over everything lion-o has, just the crown and the girl. and cheetara and the crown are not joined together. |
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If cheetara would have done everything she did to lion-o as he did to me, I would think she is into me. She should have approach lion-o first and let him down, if that what she wanted to do. As we know she didn't. Basically she went behind his back. She was not honest with him to begin with. |
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I don't know if you are a female or male, but I am a male.
If cheetara would have done everything she did to lion-o as he did to me, I would think she is into me. She should have approach lion-o first and let him down, if that what she wanted to do. As we know she didn't. Basically she went behind his back. She was not honest with him to begin with. I like cheetara too. |
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that's just semantics. it wouldn't have sounded right if he had said "just like the sword another person you don't deserve" now would it?
what I don't understand though is why some people seem to think that his jealousy for lion-o having the crown and his jealousy over cheetara can't exist without the other. you're going "he's only jealous over cheetara because lion-o has the crown" and that just doesn't make any sense. they're two different things. is he also jealous over lion-o's clothes because he has the crown? his haircut? he's not jealous over everything lion-o has, just the crown and the girl. and cheetara and the crown are not joined together. |
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in my eyes. she chose tygra. the writers handled it badly. and if they say a magical illusion or spell or something was the reason it happened, then that'll be bad writing too. it would just be a cop out. |
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I never said tygra wasn't jealous. what I said was that his jealousy for the crown and his jealousy for cheetara were not one big jealousy but two separate jealousies.
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Don't forget, Tygra has enough all the time in the world to start or trying to start a proper relationship with Cheetara and Vice Versa before Cheetara and Lion-O things happened. But they didn't, its fact.
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Of course some of T/C fans will leave, but most will not cause it's in perfect equal scale evolved triangle. Most of us were okay with it right before this dreaded Ep13. Even the TCL board are okay or "okay" with the Lion-O/Cheetarat thing. Now it's similar situation again only this time there is Cheetara/Tygra thing in the equation. knowing WB this could highly be the likely scenario too, so its either the:
1 +1/-1 x Illusions theories + Cheetara SoO Connection(http://www.thundercats.ws/thundercat.../36/#post25947) x Not tied to the triangle + this similar scenario: http://www.thundercats.ws/thundercat.../32/#post25467 = Ep 14 "New Alliances" OR 2. +1/-1 x Illusions theories + Cheeatara SoO Connection(http://www.thundercats.ws/thundercat.../36/#post25947) x tied to the triangle with Lion-O/Cheetara happening = Ep 14 "New Alliances" |
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actually i think the word used in the interview was "several," but i'd have to double check.
yup. "You'll see Pumyra, with several episodes devoted to her, even if our take on her is not the same as in the original series" http://www.awn.com/articles/thunderc...nic/page/4%2C1 Last edited by Balgus82; 01-01-2012 at 08:53 PM.. |
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The decision she made is still inconclusive why , but the voice actors are giving us little hints about L/C so lets not argue amongst ourselves. We should be DISCUSSING this, not arguing.
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"You'll see Pumyra, with several episodes devoted to her, even if our take on her is not the same as in the original series. That's our attitude for all these characters. We're thinking, like, "How can we work Safari Joe into this episode?" That's one reason that in episode five, the Driller showed up, just because he was one of the more popular villains from the old series. It's a bit of a balancing act figuring out where and how we're going to use these characters."
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but she dosen;t lik tygra like she does lion-o. I read an article that said " tygra and cheetara SUPRISINGLY agreed on something".
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but she dosent like tygra like she does lion-o. I read an article that said " tygra and cheetara SUPRISINGLY agreed on something".
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Again, my whole problem is the writing with L/C 1-12. If that was T/C, I wouldn't have said anything.
They did such a good job of building L/C, he made really wan to watch the show for that plot too. |
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I think that's proof that the writer succeded in building the Lion-O/Cheetara romance. Otherwise the 4 musketeers will not be born last year. And the survey results mostly criticizing the 180 switch Lion-O/Cheetara fans or not, with most Lion-O/Chetara fans angry and wanting to drop the show or at the verge of dropping the show, That and other interviews, facts and data also the reason why I believe Lion-O/Cheetara willl happen. Of course despite all of taht I always like to be prepared for the worst possiblity of dropping the show, thus" attacking" this darn problem form all angle possible.
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I agree it was written badly. I'm just trying to take what happened at the end of episode 13 at face value instead of trying to explain it away.
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I just realized T/C has a lot of screen time. excuse me...............................@################ ^&(*) !@$%.
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The root of all tygra's jealousy is lion-o being king. He said it himself, you will always finish second. |
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We are trying to figure out the different angles using all the clues out there. I am OS fan, I have always wanted T/P together. |
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I think that's proof that the writer succeded in building the Lion-O/Cheetara romance. Otherwise the 4 musketeers will not be born last year. That and other interviews, facts and data also the reason why I believe Lion-O/Cheetara willl happen. Of course despite all of taht I always like to be prepared for the worst possiblity of dropping the show.
If they had switch places L/C with T/C. I would have been fine with it. I think that is what some tygra fans don't understand. We are more upset with the writing then the characters. |
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i'm a little jealous of my brother's family. I though i'd have a family by now, but I'm still single. I'm also jealous that my parents listen to and respect my brother more than me. but I am not jealous of my brother's family because my parents respect him more. they're two different things. |
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If you like someone you give them hints, like how cheetara was with lion-o. You don't risk losing a person you like with those type of actions. Cheetara is a good cat, that is not how she is. I don't believe she was playing lion-o, I believe she likes lion-o. |
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