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01-03-2012, 12:13 AM | #2651 |
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01-03-2012, 12:22 AM | #2652 |
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i would say it's the other way around. tygra's support and advise would do more good to liono than cheetara's IMO. they are blood, and nothing is ever gonna change that. that is why i believe they need each other but they don't know it.
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01-03-2012, 01:26 AM | #2653 |
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technically,they're not blood brothers they're step brothers because tygra's adopted
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Those factors will also make Cheetara's character more complex, not just simple love interest. That will also make the conflicted feelings theory more compicated as the line between feelings and duty blurs or combined into one big solid line when it comes to Lion-O from Cheetara's point of view. And I think its fact that you cannot be that personal with someone if it just based on duty alone, how little it is feelings are involved there, the kittens even Tygra can see it. Another way to see it I think with tygra it's just feelings(IF that was even true) but with Lion-O she has two major factors feelings and duty involved. She should know the stakes are much higher with Lion-O too, as without Lion-O the Tcats are doomed to oblivion. Last edited by cmangund; 01-03-2012 at 08:00 AM.. |
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OR Lion-O and Cheetara could "run off" after their official wedding as king and queen but never return from their honeymoon as before leaving for the honeymoon Lion-O left a leter with royal seal saying that he has given Tygra what he always wanted the crown. THE END If the ending is like that, then you can have a classic hero's journey with a little good twist Everyone's happy, no more jealous Tygra. Last edited by cmangund; 01-03-2012 at 08:16 AM.. |
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Cheetara connection to the sword could be that process of choosing the bearer, what we know so far is the sword has chosen Lion-O, but we don't know the process of how the sword chooses it's chosen bearer. That's how I think they will tie cheetara with the choosing thing and the sword+Lion-O, as mentioned in the Cheeatar/SoO/Lion-O connections theories and in a number of epiosdes they have been using the words choosing alot with dialogues about the sword, the brothers and cheetara, plus cheetara saying I know the reason why the sword has chosen Lion-O. Jelenic said definitive answer of her following him around, thus it will not be that simple, there is a good chance its about these connections. Cheetara could also be connected to the stone itself, thus her glowing eyes, like suggested by stormbringer about the clerics affinity to the eye iitself.
Those factors will also make Cheetara's character more complex, not just simple love interest. That will also make the conflicted feelings theory more compicated as the line between feelings and duty blurs or combined into one big solid line when it comes to Lion-O from Cheetara's point of view. And I think its fact that you cannot be that personal with someone if it just based on duty alone, how little it is feelings are involved there, the kittens even Tygra can see it. Another way to see it I think with tygra it's just feelings(IF that was even true) but with Lion-O she has two major factors feelings and duty involved. She should know the stakes are much higher with Lion-O too, as without Lion-O the Tcats are doomed to oblivion. |
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What if in the end Lion-O become King then give the kingdom to Tygra and He and Cheetara "ran off" from the kingdom, So in the end Tygra got his dreams becoming king of thundera, Lion-O with Cheetara lived happily till the end of days outside of Thundera. THE END
OR Lion-O and Cheetara could "run off" after their official wedding as king and queen but never return from their honeymoon as before leaving for the honeymoon Lion-O left a leter with royal seal saying that he has given Tygra what he always wanted the crown. THE END If the ending is like that, then you can have a classic hero's journey with a little good twist Everyone's happy, no more jealous Tygra. |
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Cheetara connection to the sword could be that process of choosing the bearer, what we know so far is the sword has chosen Lion-O, but we don't know the process of how the sword chooses it's chosen bearer. That's how I think they will tie cheetara with the choosing thing and the sword+Lion-O, as mentioned in the Cheeatar/SoO/Lion-O connections theories and in a number of epiosdes they have been using the words choosing alot with dialogues about the sword, the brothers and cheetara, plus cheetara saying I know the reason why the sword has chosen Lion-O. Jelenic said definitive answer of her following him around, thus it will not be that simple, there is a good chance its about these connections. Cheetara could also be connected to the stone itself, thus her glowing eyes, like suggested by stormbringer about the clerics affinity to the eye iitself.
Those factors will also make Cheetara's character more complex, not just simple love interest. That will also make the conflicted feelings theory more compicated as the line between feelings and duty blurs or combined into one big solid line when it comes to Lion-O from Cheetara's point of view. And I think its fact that you cannot be that personal with someone if it just based on duty alone, how little it is feelings are involved there, the kittens even Tygra can see it. Another way to see it I think with tygra it's just feelings(IF that was even true) but with Lion-O she has two major factors feelings and duty involved. She should know the stakes are much higher with Lion-O too, as without Lion-O the Tcats are doomed to oblivion. Look at it this way, maybe the spells on the sword are link to the clerics. Could the spells stay intact because there is one more cleric left (cheetara). Why was she the one with the sword? The other clerics are older, you would think they would have carried the sword. I think the SoO chose her. That would add more layers to cheetara too. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-03-2012 at 11:18 AM.. |
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I think any cleric would know why the sword chose lion-o but since she is the last one she will be the one to tell the story. The sword probably reacts to who touches it. I don't see cheetara can be more connected to the sword than lion-o is seeing how he is the only one who can use and command it. Jaga was the one to transfer the use of the claw shield to lion-o as well. As a cleric she understands the swords abilities better than the rest do and probably knows how to tap into its power as her eyes glowed once in ep 6 if hers were the only ones to glow the whole time it would be different. Lion-o can rebuild thundera without cheetara being his love interest.
Second, they would not put that in if that was not a clue. Why would they show it? No other cats eyes glow and neither any of the Cats in thunderia did for their king. Lion-o is the wielder of the SoO, it was no coincident that she was the carrier of the SoO. |
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First, lion-o doesn't need any of the TCs. If he needs any it would cheetara. What does tygra do for lion-o?
Second, they would not put that in if that was not a clue. Why would they show it? No other cats eyes glow and neither any of the Cats in thunderia did for their king. Lion-o is the wielder of the SoO, it was no coincident that she was the carrier of the SoO. |
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Lion-o has the power to do it alone but not the experience. When lion-o uses the sword its power is released and cheetara's eyes don't light up every time he uses it but if they did maybe then it would be a clue. When her eyes glowed she was holding jaga in that lamp thing maybe jaga told her how to tap into the swords power. Lion-o is only the wielder of the sword because claudis died so if claudis lived would cheetara be connected to him ?
The prophecy is about lion-o not claudis. I think the sword already picked lion-o, he could use sight beyond sight while Claudis was a live. I believe the SoO was his (lion-o), only the claw belong to Claudis. The SoO could have been waiting for him. Kind of like Uther and Auther, I believe Excalibur would chose Auther over Uther, because of his heart. If you look at duty purely, Jaga was Claudis's number one person. It would be the same for lion-o and cheetara, he would need her. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-03-2012 at 12:41 PM.. |
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I thought her eyes glowed because he was more intune with the sword than before. Lion-o was using the SoO when her eyes glowed. We don't see her eyes, she was close to him when he used the SoO. They only showed it that time, they just didn't put that there for nothing. If her eyes glowed all the time, then OS (myself too) fans would think it was like the old TC. Their eyes glowed all the time.
The prophecy is about lion-o not claudis. I think the sword already picked lion-o, he could use sight beyond sight while Claudis was a live. I believe the SoO was his (lion-o), only the claw belong to Claudis. The SoO could have been waiting for him. Kind of like Uther and Auther, I believe Excalibur would chose Auther over Uther, because of his heart. If you look at duty purely, Jaga was Claudis's number one person. It would be the same for lion-o and cheetara, he would need her. |
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He was always intune with the sword from ep 1 he just didn't see the big picture. So far only cheetara's eyes have glowed only once if her eyes were the only ones to glow every time like the OS then i'd say there is some kind of connection with her and the sword. The sword still obeyed claudis, the sword only revealed to lion-o what others chose not to believe. With excalibur it depends on what rendition is being read. Jaga brings wisdom and experience to the table for claudis in which cheetara has none of at this moment. Panthro would have to be lion-o right hand man as he bring experience to the table much like leo was for mum-ra
If her eyes glowed like in the OS, then it would've be explain like in the OS there is no other story to be told. They didn't just show that. The main writer said invest in each episode and you will get more out of it. Well they put that in there for a reason. Claudis could not use the power of the sword, only lion-o. Lion-o is different, it has nothing to do with the tech, it is his heart. Example, his showing of mercy to the lizards. Excalibur was always Merlins, but the one with the true heart could only wield it's power. All through out history, advisor's are the main person after the king. Cao Cao has Sima Yi, not his own blood Xiahou Dun as his prime minister. Kings always had their strategist first then the generals. |
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Since I was sick during the holidays, I finally caught up on the last four episodes. This was a really good episode. I love how they show more of the past of the central characters and the history that Cheetara and Tygra have had. It looks like they will set up more conflict with Lion-O and Tygra but I actually liked that she chose Tygra.
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Since I was sick during the holidays, I finally caught up on the last four episodes. This was a really good episode. I love how they show more of the past of the central characters and the history that Cheetara and Tygra have had. It looks like they will set up more conflict with Lion-O and Tygra but I actually liked that she chose Tygra.
You don't think the ending was vague? The only past they had was the flower scene, that is not enough for a history. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-03-2012 at 01:36 PM.. |
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Since I was sick during the holidays, I finally caught up on the last four episodes. This was a really good episode. I love how they show more of the past of the central characters and the history that Cheetara and Tygra have had. It looks like they will set up more conflict with Lion-O and Tygra but I actually liked that she chose Tygra.
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I don't understand how anyone could want that pair, unless they are a tygra fan. I would feel the same way if it was T/C E1-12 and lion-o got a rush at the end of E13, I would want it to be T/C if it was like that for the first 12 episodes.
It took 12 episodes to make L/C good, it took one episode to make it look like T/C are a pair. I can't see how anyone can like that rush and vague ending. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-03-2012 at 03:12 PM.. |
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I don't understand how anyone could want that pair, unless they are a tygra fan. I would feel the same way if it was T/C E1-12 and lion-o got a rush at the end of E13.
It took 12 episodes to make L/C good, it took one episode to make it look like T/C are a pair. I can't see how anyone can like that rush and vague ending. |
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Lion-o has not mastered the sword. He can use SBS. SBS was the bigger picture.
If her eyes glowed like in the OS, then it would've be explain like in the OS there is no other story to be told. They didn't just show that. The main writer said invest in each episode and you will get more out of it. Well they put that in there for a reason. Claudis could not use the power of the sword, only lion-o. Lion-o is different, it has nothing to do with the tech, it is his heart. Example, his showing of mercy to the lizards. Excalibur was always Merlins, but the one with the true heart could only wield it's power. All through out history, advisor's are the main person after the king. Cao Cao has Sima Yi, not his own blood Xiahou Dun as his prime minister. Kings always had their strategist first then the generals. |
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Intune doesn't mean mastered. Sight beyond sight is more or less part of an ideology as jaga tried to explain to lion-o in ep1&2. The sword showed lion-o what everyone chose not to believe, tech was only part of it the other was mum-ra. If cheetara's eyes and only her eyes glow when the sword is used then i'd think there is a connection between her and it. The sword worked for claudis maybe not to its full potential but it still worked. If claudis was open minded sight beyond sight may have worked for him as well. Excalibur depends on which rendition is read. Through out history adivisors to the king were always battle proven usually a former general. Jaga may also be a former general or he still is as the clerics seem to me some kind of small royal army. What strategy is cheetara going to come up with that would be better than what panthro or even tygra would come up with?
As a OS fan, if I saw her eyes glow all the time, I would think it was like the OS. They showed it once and she was next to him, they didn't put that in there for nothing. No other cats eyes have glowed. No one in thunderia eyes glowed or jaga only cheetara. How do you explain that. One of the greatest minds Zhuge Liang was never a general, he was strategist and then went on to be a prime minister. Liu Bie had five generals and two of them were his sworn brothers, but Zhuge Liang was second after Liu Bie. Zhou Yu is one for Wu. You could go down the list. Strategist were more important than generals. Generals would just act out what the Strategist devise. The troops did all the work not the Generals. No one has came up with strategy. It is find the stones before mummra. I think cheetara is more important to lion-o than the other cats. What has panthero done for lion-o? She is the only one helping him, I think she gets a little personal becuase she likes him. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-03-2012 at 03:56 PM.. |
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Lion-o has the power to do it alone but not the experience. When lion-o uses the sword its power is released and cheetara's eyes don't light up every time he uses it but if they did maybe then it would be a clue. When her eyes glowed she was holding jaga in that lamp thing maybe jaga told her how to tap into the swords power. Lion-o is only the wielder of the sword because claudis died so if claudis lived would cheetara be connected to him ?
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I think any cleric would know why the sword chose lion-o but since she is the last one she will be the one to tell the story. The sword probably reacts to who touches it. I don't see cheetara can be more connected to the sword than lion-o is seeing how he is the only one who can use and command it. Jaga was the one to transfer the use of the claw shield to lion-o as well. As a cleric she understands the swords abilities better than the rest do and probably knows how to tap into its power as her eyes glowed once in ep 6 if hers were the only ones to glow the whole time it would be different. Lion-o can rebuild thundera without cheetara being his love interest.
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Agreed, they would not have shown her eyes glow. She was not using the power of the SoO at that time.
Look at it this way, maybe the spells on the sword are link to the clerics. Could the spells stay intact because there is one more cleric left (cheetara). Why was she the one with the sword? The other clerics are older, you would think they would have carried the sword. I think the SoO chose her. That would add more layers to cheetara too. |
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I have a feeling that may not actually be cheetara
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its probably mumm-ra in disguise. remember episode 1-2. or maybe he is controlling her, to yet again get the brothers to kill eachother. plan a failed so maybe this is plan b
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There;s high possiblity the clerics link to the sword, that's why they will have one clerics assigned to choose the wielder per generation, in Claudu;s case was not Cheetara with the job, it was before her, in Ep1 it was Cheetara that went forward wth the sword, that strengthen the idea of her chosing for the next SoO wielder. Does not matter if Cheetara not being tied to the SoO other than the choosing process or not, the point is the writers been palying around with the words choosing with the SoO, the brothers and cheetara, that strengthen the idea of this choosing thing is connected between Cheetara,SoO,the brothers and the triangle. If Tygra didnt have the possibility of being chosen he will not say, "the sword pick you" in the magi oar episode. In that theory.
When she went to see him in E1, it was like she knew he was the one. She only appreared to him before the ceromony. It seems uncommon for the clerics to show themselves like cheetara did with lion-o. It was like she was checking him out. She was the SoO bearer and her eyes glowed when he was using the SoO next to her. I think this has a lot to do with what she said "I chose along time ago". |
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He "can" with his broken state and the "pain" every time seeing T/C thing. anyway open or close triangle cheetara is always Lion-O's love interest too in writers mind. Last edited by cmangund; 01-03-2012 at 05:31 PM.. |
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I thought it was a illusion, they gave us a glimpse of tygra's power. That SoO was real.
Everything she said was vague. The heart part was unbelievable. She said I heard what happen. Who did she hear it from. When she said I heard what happen, that means tygra was not included. |
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You have been taking my post about the Tygra geeting the crown "too seriously."
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If it is real Tygra's dead
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I thought it was a illusion, they gave us a glimpse of tygra's power. That SoO was real.
Everything she said was vague. The heart part was unbelievable. She said I heard what happen. Who did she hear it from. When she said I heard what happen, that means tygra was not included. |
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I will making a guest appearance in tygra's dream if it's real.
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That would make a lot of sense, Mumm-ra certainly hasn't been very effective taking on the cats in battle, so maybe he'll go for being sneaky.
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As Direct frontal assaults have failed, Mumm-Ra return to his lair, read the sun tzu book and using the new knowledge he became the sneaky Mumm-Ra.
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No other king could use SBS, except lion-o and he was not king. How did he want to see it, he didn't tell anyone.
As a OS fan, if I saw her eyes glow all the time, I would think it was like the OS. They showed it once and she was next to him, they didn't put that in there for nothing. No other cats eyes have glowed. No one in thunderia eyes glowed or jaga only cheetara. How do you explain that. One of the greatest minds Zhuge Liang was never a general, he was strategist and then went on to be a prime minister. Liu Bie had five generals and two of them were his sworn brothers, but Zhuge Liang was second after Liu Bie. Zhou Yu is one for Wu. You could go down the list. Strategist were more important than generals. Generals would just act out what the Strategist devise. The troops did all the work not the Generals. No one has came up with strategy. It is find the stones before mummra. I think cheetara is more important to lion-o than the other cats. What has panthero done for lion-o? She is the only one helping him, I think she gets a little personal becuase she likes him. |
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No, because in claudu's case the SoO guardian that chooses Claudus wasn't cheetara but before her. Jaga only assign cheetara to choose the next wielder. as cleary the ceremony was about Lion-O being the next wielder to master the sword after claudus, does not matter in what state Claudis is. In that theory.
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Could be both. the spell could be connected to both the guardian and/or the SoO. Or there could be 2 different spells altogether one a spell for the guardian to help choose the wielder. and the other spell is to protect the SoO from evil hands.
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01-03-2012, 05:46 PM | #2698 |
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How can the guardian help the sword choose if it only obeys who it sees fit to obey? The guardian can't make the sword obey who it doesn't want to obey. Tygra says "maybe the sword chose wrong" not "the sword and cheetara chose wrong" so i'm not sure if the sword has a guardian
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01-03-2012, 05:48 PM | #2699 |
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01-03-2012, 05:50 PM | #2700 |
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Agreed, they would not have shown her eyes glow. She was not using the power of the SoO at that time.
Look at it this way, maybe the spells on the sword are link to the clerics. Could the spells stay intact because there is one more cleric left (cheetara). Why was she the one with the sword? The other clerics are older, you would think they would have carried the sword. I think the SoO chose her. That would add more layers to cheetara too. |
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