Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Why would tygra have trails?

Just thinking since they like to do mirror things with the brothers. If they are going to tie Tygra up with Benglali and the gang storyline, if maybe Tygra's actually a prince there in Bengali's tribe, like L08e16o said. OR Tygra's "trials" could be the jelasoy/anger management test needed for Tygra so he will be more tollerable after that and will be more okay with Cheetara/Lion-O.

stormbringer · 01-08-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Why would tygra have trails?

Learning about his heritage and birthright?

DarkKnight · 01-08-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Learning about his heritage and birthright?

he is adopted , Im pretty sure he wants to know where he came from

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:12 PM

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he is adopted , Im pretty sure he wants to know where he came from

Agreed.

I do.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

They can if they are going to make it using old friends episode and the Ep13 structure, Example:

The bengali and the gang introduction scene will not take that long, because they will explain the tribe's history slowly not in one episode, but chip it to us bit by bit until "Native Son" if there's going to be alot of Tygra's past history, Tygra's "Trials" begening at "Native son". The fighting scenes,The Cheetara Nursing Lion-O secene will also not taking too much time. Then the Mumm-ra secene will serve as the ending secene or epilogue for Ep14. That's how I picture it when making that scenario back then. With the 22.45 minutes time frame in mind.

Yeah that's what I thought back then. "Lost causes" could also mean Cheetara actually have feelings more to Lion-O than Tygra, but she went to Tygra thus one of the lost cause, the other lost cause was Lion-O has feelings for Cheetara but after seeing the dreaded scene he thinks, its all over thus I will just do this mission with snarf.

Seeing the crew wanted to chip thing slowly, that's what made me think Bengali and the gang could also be introduced here in Ep14.

It is interesting that they change the title. We know it will be about cheetara following lion-o around.

I am not say this will happen, maybe cheetara thought going to tygra would stop him from the betrayal, but it didnt' work. She only made it worse.

I don't think it would be about lion-o's lost cause with cheetara, we got the end of E13.

He will probably leave snarf if he goes alone.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Why would tygra have trails?

To flesh out his past.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Just thinking since they like to do mirror things with the brothers. If they are going to tie Tygra up with Benglali and the gang storyline, if maybe Tygra's actually a prince there in Bengali's tribe, like L08e16o said. OR Tygra's "trials" could be the jelasoy/anger management test needed for Tygra so he will be more tollerable after that and will be more okay with Cheetara/Lion-O.

Plus he has something of his own, something that lion-o is not attach too. Like cheetara, TC, and the crown.

They all are attach to lion-o. If he had something outside that and it is his, I think he could move on faster.

Big Snarf · 01-08-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Just thinking since they like to do mirror things with the brothers. If they are going to tie Tygra up with Benglali and the gang storyline, if maybe Tygra's actually a prince there in Bengali's tribe, like L08e16o said. OR Tygra's "trials" could be the jelasoy/anger management test needed for Tygra so he will be better after that.

Bengali would probably be some sort of desert wanderer. I think tygra is just an ordinary cat and the only way for him to stay a prince is if lion-o lets him be one

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Learning about his heritage and birthright?

I would like that.

We learned about pantero's past. We learn about T/C know each other.

We still have cheetara's, tygra's, lion's, and the kid's past to learn about.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:21 PM

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Bengali would probably be some sort of desert wanderer. I think tygra is just an ordinary cat and the only way for him to stay a prince is if lion-o lets him be one

I wold like tygra would want more.

Tigers are usually loners, I don't think he wants to be in lion-o's shadow his whole life. He thinks he could do more.

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Learning about his heritage and birthright?

Exactly. that's what I think.

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I would like that.

We learned about pantero's past. We learn about T/C know each other.

We still have cheetara's, tygra's, lion's, and the kid's past to learn about.

And Lion-O/Cheetara knowing each other.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:23 PM

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And Lion-O/Cheetara knowing each other.

Yes, that too.

There is contection.

If lion-o is at death's door, I wonder if she would use SoO to help?

stormbringer · 01-08-2012, 06:24 PM

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And Lion-O/Cheetara knowing each other.

It better not involve a flower!

Big Snarf · 01-08-2012, 06:24 PM

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Plus he has something of his own, something that lion-o is not attach too. Like cheetara, TC, and the crown.

They all are attach to lion-o. If he had something outside that and it is his, I think he could move on faster.

All the animals are supposed to unite under lion-o so tygra would still have to pay homage to lion-o the only way he would have anything is if lion-o lets him

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

It is interesting that they change the title. We know it will be about cheetara following lion-o around.

I am not say this will happen, maybe cheetara thought going to tygra would stop him from the betrayal, but it didnt' work. She only made it worse.

I don't think it would be about lion-o's lost cause with cheetara, we got the end of E13.

He will probably leave snarf if he goes alone.

Ep13 title was between brothers, the lost causes bit were at only at the epilogue, thus naturally it will be expanded more on the next episode, seeing how they have structure it.

snarf and Lion-O are not separable, impossible sanarf will leave Lion-O especially knowing he is in pain.

Big Snarf · 01-08-2012, 06:25 PM

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Yes, that too.

There is contection.

If lion-o is at death's door, I wonder if she would use SoO to help?

How would she be able to do that if only he can use it?

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:25 PM

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It better not involve a flower!

Not that stupid thing again!

With Lion-O/Cheetara will be the SoO connection I think or something similar.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:26 PM

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All the animals are supposed to unite under lion-o so tygra would still have to pay homage to lion-o the only way he would have anything is if lion-o lets him

I still think he will, that is why it is better if tygra has his own path.

Leo still had to go against the cats and we don't know what tygrus did.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:28 PM

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How would she be able to do that if only he can use it?

Remember the have gave little hints and yes I could be wrong, but I think she can tap into the power. She just doesn't have command of it like the wielder.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

It better not involve a flower!

I think it has to do with the sword.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Ep13 title was between brothers, the lost causes bit were at only at the epilogue, thus naturally it will be expanded more on the next episode, seeing how they have structure it.

snarf and Lion-O are not separable, impossible sanarf will leave Lion-O especially knowing he is in pain.

This snarf can't talk.

Lion-o probably wants to be by himself. Snarf could go warn the other cats he is gone. That would tell them something is wrong.

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I think it has to do with the sword.

both of the swords

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:33 PM

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This snarf can't talk.

Lion-o probably wants to be by himself. Snarf could go warn the other cats he is gone. That would tell them something is wrong.

yeah it could also be like that. I think at the end of Ep14 the lost causes will become the found causes, Lion-O/Cheetara happening/developing!

stormbringer · 01-08-2012, 06:36 PM

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both of the swords

Hope Cheetara/Tygra didn't disable Lion-os confidence with his "swords".

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:37 PM

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Hope Cheetara/Tygra didn't disable Lion-os confidence with his "swords".

On the countrary Lion-O has man-up, thus his "swords" will be in a super excellent condition.

Big Snarf · 01-08-2012, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I wold like tygra would want more.

Tigers are usually loners, I don't think he wants to be in lion-o's shadow his whole life. He thinks he could do more.

Thats were he is and will always be regardless of any changes.

Big Snarf · 01-08-2012, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Remember the have gave little hints and yes I could be wrong, but I think she can tap into the power. She just doesn't have command of it like the wielder.

I think they can tap into its power when its released by the wielder,but when the sword is off no one else can turn it on

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:42 PM

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Thats were he is and will always be regardless of any changes.

So Tygra's beyond redemption?

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:42 PM

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Thats were he is and will always be regardless of any changes.

I agree, lion-o will be king of 3rd earth, but tygra can have his own destiny.

I would like tygra to get a bone, I don't think he will get cheetara at the end. I hope he has a kingdom with his own family outside of thunderia.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:43 PM

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So Tygra's beyond redemption?

I don't.

He is changing as we have seen. I know he still has demons.

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Remember the have gave little hints and yes I could be wrong, but I think she can tap into the power. She just doesn't have command of it like the wielder.

Yeah the way they have been tieng the Lion-O/Cheetara thing slowly with the SoO. its pointing in that direction.

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:45 PM

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I would like tygra to get a bone, I don't think he will get cheetara at the end. I hope he has a kingdom with his own family outside of thunderia.

Everthing points to Lion-O/Cheetara in the end, it's just how long will the road be.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:45 PM

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Yeah the way they have been tieng the Lion-O/Cheetara thing slowly with the SoO. its pointing in that direction.

Like you said when they both had their hands on lion-o's sword.

I that is what I am getting out of it.

stormbringer · 01-08-2012, 06:46 PM

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both of the swords

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Yeah the way they have been tieng the Lion-O/Cheetara thing slowly with the SoO. its pointing in that direction.

So will Cheetara truly live Lion-o, or will it be the SoO she loves the most?

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:46 PM

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Everthing points to Lion-O/Cheetara in the end, it's just how long will the road be.

Agreed.

We know lion-o will not act like a kid with his feelings anymore. I think he will be serious about them.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:47 PM

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So will Cheetara truly live Lion-o, or will it be the SoO she loves the most?

Do I have to really answer that.

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I think the sword is what connects their destiny, I don't know if she love lion-o. I think she likes. She will do anything to proctect him and full fill his destiny. I don't know if that is duty or love.

stormbringer · 01-08-2012, 06:47 PM

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Everthing points to Lion-O/Cheetara in the end, it's just how long will the road be.

Well if its like JL, it'll be a looonnng twisted road.

Big Snarf · 01-08-2012, 06:48 PM

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I still think he will, that is why it is better if tygra has his own path.

Leo still had to go against the cats and we don't know what tygrus did.

Tygus probably had to brown nose leo big time. If tygus tried to free mum-ra he and his followers would be killed by the other animals or leo. Cats outside the protection of leo would have the heat of all the other animals on them

stormbringer · 01-08-2012, 06:49 PM

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Do you have to really answer that.

I couldnt resist!

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:50 PM

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So will Cheetara truly love Lion-o, or will it be the SoO she loves the most?

IT could lead to another quad angle Cheetara/SoO/Lion-O/Lion-O's other "sword"

Big Snarf · 01-08-2012, 06:53 PM

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So Tygra's beyond redemption?

Redemption has nothing to do with it its the limit of the character in the show he will never be surpass a fully developed lion-o

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I think the sword is what connects their destiny, I don't know if she love lion-o. I think she likes. She will do anything to proctect him and full fill his destiny. I don't know if that is duty or love.

Its both duty and love. or right now Duty and Strong feelings.

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 06:56 PM

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Like you said when they both had their hands on lion-o's sword.

I that is what I am getting out of it.

Exactly, otherwise they don't need to make her feel his "swords". To make her feelings clearer.

stormbringer · 01-08-2012, 06:58 PM

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IT could lead to another quad angle Cheetara/SoO/Lion-O/Lion-O's other "sword"

So the SoO and Cheetara aren't going to battle for Lion-os love are they?

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 06:59 PM

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Tygus probably had to brown nose leo big time. If tygus tried to free mum-ra he and his followers would be killed by the other animals or leo. Cats outside the protection of leo would have the heat of all the other animals on them

They could have split off, maybe this tribe would be tygrus offsprings.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 07:00 PM

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IT could lead to another quad angle Cheetara/SoO/Lion-O/Lion-O's other "sword"

That is going to be a OVA not aired on tv.

cmangund · 01-08-2012, 07:01 PM

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So the SoO and Cheetara aren't going to battle for Lion-os love are they?

If they do, Cheetara will be one very "busy" female cat.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 07:01 PM

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Exactly, otherwise they don't need to make her feel his "swords". To make her feelings clearer.

That should be a big hint.

L08e16o · 01-08-2012, 07:02 PM

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So the SoO and Cheetara aren't going to battle for Lion-os love are they?

Well, I hope lion-o fogets to bring the SoO when he walks her home.

01-08-2012, 05:29 PM	#3951
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by Big Snarf Why would tygra have trails? Just thinking since they like to do mirror things with the brothers. If they are going to tie Tygra up with Benglali and the gang storyline, if maybe Tygra's actually a prince there in Bengali's tribe, like L08e16o said. OR Tygra's "trials" could be the jelasoy/anger management test needed for Tygra so he will be more tollerable after that and will be more okay with Cheetara/Lion-O. Last edited by cmangund; 01-08-2012 at 06:16 PM..

01-08-2012, 06:33 PM	#3974
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o This snarf can't talk. Lion-o probably wants to be by himself. Snarf could go warn the other cats he is gone. That would tell them something is wrong. yeah it could also be like that. I think at the end of Ep14 the lost causes will become the found causes, Lion-O/Cheetara happening/developing! Last edited by cmangund; 01-08-2012 at 06:41 PM..

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L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer So will Cheetara truly live Lion-o, or will it be the SoO she loves the most? Do I have to really answer that.\\ I think the sword is what connects their destiny, I don't know if she love lion-o. I think she likes. She will do anything to proctect him and full fill his destiny. I don't know if that is duty or love.