Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Lion-o would really have a bad night if he does go to kiss her and she slaps him. That would be a sign to go solo.

I can wait to see how it goes down. Lion-o will have to do something.

Cheetara will not slap him, don't forget what the actress said.

DarkKnight · 01-06-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Cheetara will not slap him, don't forget what the actress said.

yeah she wont slap him.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

yeah she wont slap him.

DEfinetly. she's not like that at all.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:06 PM

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yeah she wont slap him.

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DarkKnight · 01-06-2012, 05:06 PM

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DEfinetly. she's not like that at all.

she's a nice girl.

DarkKnight · 01-06-2012, 05:07 PM

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I am not goku or vegeta I am Gogeta! It's over mumm-ra I've come for you!

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Cheetara will not slap him, don't forget what the actress said.

I know, I was just saying. That would be a really bad night for lion-o. I don't think his sword would ever work again.

stormbringer · 01-06-2012, 05:08 PM

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Good Idea. that will be awesome. kit and kat will be in AWE

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DEfinetly. she's not like that at all.

Nope, besides she's a cleric Im sure she's more diplomatic than that.

DarkKnight · 01-06-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I know, I was just saying. That would be a really bad night for lion-o. I don't think his sword would ever work again.

Yeah if that happens , I get 20 seconds with tygra. That will do it.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:11 PM

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Nope, besides she's a cleric Im sure she's more diplomatic than that.

Agreed. She's supposed to be wise, as Jaga taught her (hopefully those rumors of Jaga the old coot womanizer were wrong

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cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:12 PM

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I know, I was just saying. That would be a really bad night for lion-o. I don't think his sword would ever work again.

Which will be a MAJOR PROBLEM for survival of Tcats!

DarkKnight · 01-06-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Agreed. She's supposed to be wise, as Jaga taught her (hopefully those rumors of Jaga the old coot womanizer were wrong

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he better not be a coot.

DarkKnight · 01-06-2012, 05:15 PM

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Which will be a MAJOR PROBLEM for survival of Tcats!

agreed, because the next morning of that situation; tygra will have mysteriously disappeared

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:17 PM

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agreed, because the next morning of that situation; tygra will have mysteriously disappeared

Big Snarf · 01-06-2012, 05:18 PM

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I am not goku or vegeta I am Gogeta! It's over mumm-ra I've come for you!

Until mum-ra reveals he is en sabah nur then all will perish

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I know, I was just saying. That would be a really bad night for lion-o. I don't think his sword would ever work again.

Especially since she cannot take the pill option for Lion-O's 'sword'

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:21 PM

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Until mum-ra reveals he is en sabah nur then all will perish

And that's how the Tcats story will end. THE END

DarkKnight · 01-06-2012, 05:21 PM

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Until mum-ra reveals he is en sabah nur then all will perish

I will use stardust breaker.

Balgus82 · 01-06-2012, 05:25 PM

OK you guys wanted a definitive answer. Be careful what you wish for. Been talking to Dan Norton on FB and he offered to answer questions I had on the show since the Tumblr blog hadn't been updated.

So this was my question:
"One thing that I've been discussing with some people on a forum is wither or not Cheetara actually "chose" Tygra at the end of episode 13. They're saying that it was an illusion or it was mumm-ra in disguise or that she went there to talk him out of betraying Lion-O."

This was his answer:
"Cheetara chose Tygra... it's not Mumm-RA"

So take from that what you will.

stormbringer · 01-06-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Especially since she cannot take the pill option for Lion-O's 'sword'

Thundercats Noooooooo!

Big Snarf · 01-06-2012, 05:28 PM

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I will use stardust breaker.

countered by transmutation abilities to become like thanos and use the stones as an infinity gauntlet and TC becomes the age of apocalypse um i mean mum-ra

kenshon · 01-06-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

She's known Tygra for years. She's been around him every day for months. She knows him and knows why he's jealous. Anet is just a guy she met a few days before. He could've easily been working for Mumm-Ra the whole time to sow discontent (I don't actually believe he was I'm just saying it's completely possible). Point is she doesn't know Anet and she does know Tygra.

I would trust someone I know, even with their faults, over someone I had just met because you don't know the person you just met. Just because someone acts nice doesn't necessarily mean they aren't hiding anything.

Maybe you're right in that if she was trying to stop the betrayal she wouldn't follow Lion-O around, but if that's the case she would be following Tygra around. There would've been no need to walk up to him and talk. If she really suspected Tygra of betraying Lion-O the smarter thing would've been to hide in the shadows to watch him.

Cheetara isn't the only reason he was fighting Lion-O in the AP. And his jealousy was because he thought she liked Lion-O, not because she didn't thank him for a flower. If she had thanked him, and he still thought Lion-O had "won" her he would still be jealous. It wouldn't stop anything.

I agree, we have all been analyzing the events of this one episode for months me personally I am at the point of accepting T/C for whatever her motives were to kiss Tygra in that fashion she could have easily kissed him on the cheek and thanked him to get her point across if she indeed likes Lion-o, but what she did would only cause more confusion, for her to think it would stop his betrayal is naive and with Lion-o seeing it with his own eyes what explanation could she give him? Even if T/C isn't permanent they need to keep it as is for awhile in my opinion for her to approach Lion-o after this would be unreal that whole scene was supposed to make her feelings clear and we are only more confused as to why it happened in the first place.Cheetaras character seems to not understand how to encourage someone or thank them in a way that conveys her true feelings for noone does these 2 acts the way she does.I think it would be better for Lion-o to explore his options and deal with other female characters I feel they shouldn't force L/C any further at this point in the game( but not destroy what Ep1-12 built if we get the L/C end) we still have 39 eps left maybe L/C will evolve over the course of the story as a whole . Lion-o should be free to explore other options. Cheetara needs some serious compitition asap her days being top female cat needs to change in my opinion! Maybe then she will learn what it means too make her feelings clear.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:31 PM

Like I said before it does not matter who she has chosen. because the highest good thing and not striing up the pot. That's just to clarify that was not an illusions. looks like the Conflicted feelings theory will come true.

stormbringer · 01-06-2012, 05:34 PM

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Especially since she cannot take the pill option for Lion-O's 'sword'

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Like I said before it does not matter who she has chosen. because the highest good thing and not striing up the pot. That's just to clarify that's was not an illusions. looks like the Conflicted feelings theory will come true.

Unfortunately, stirring the pot is exactly what cheetara has done.

Balgus82 · 01-06-2012, 05:35 PM

ok I have to be fair and add a further response as well.

"Hehehheheh... not to make implications... but in entertainment... Nothing is ever certain... Not even death."

So you guys can probably keep your hopes up that her choice can change in the course of the series.

But for now at least, she has chosen Tygra.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Unfortunately, stirring the pot is exactly what cheetara has done.

On the contrary, The conflicted feelings theory is in place and the Cheetara/SoO/Lion-O connections can still also be in place. nothing to worry about. one of my analysis hit the spot. like the scenario of Ep 14 I made back in this thread. Looks like they are indeed following JL kind of ships.

stormbringer · 01-06-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

On the contrary, The conflicted feelings theory is in place and the Cheetara/SoO/Lion-O connections can still also be in place. nothing to worry about. one of my analysis hit the spot. like the scenario of Ep 14 I made back in this thread. Looks like they are indeed following JL kind of ships.

So, how do you think Lion-o and Tygra will deal with her conflicted feelings?

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

OK you guys wanted a definitive answer. Be careful what you wish for. Been talking to Dan Norton on FB and he offered to answer questions I had on the show since the Tumblr blog hadn't been updated.

So this was my question:
"One thing that I've been discussing with some people on a forum is wither or not Cheetara actually "chose" Tygra at the end of episode 13. They're saying that it was an illusion or it was mumm-ra in disguise or that she went there to talk him out of betraying Lion-O."

This was his answer:
"Cheetara chose Tygra... it's not Mumm-RA"

So take from that what you will.

Is that all he said?

Balgus82 · 01-06-2012, 05:49 PM

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Is that all he said?

just that and the part I relayed about how in entertainment nothing was certain.

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 05:49 PM

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I agree, we have all been analyzing the events of this one episode for months me personally I am at the point of accepting T/C for whatever her motives were to kiss Tygra in that fashion she could have easily kissed him on the cheek and thanked him to get her point across if she indeed likes Lion-o, but what she did would only cause more confusion, for her to think it would stop his betrayal is naive and with Lion-o seeing it with his own eyes what explanation could she give him? Even if T/C isn't permanent they need to keep it as is for awhile in my opinion for her to approach Lion-o after this would be unreal that whole scene was supposed to make her feelings clear and we are only more confused as to why it happened in the first place.Cheetaras character seems to not understand how to encourage someone or thank them in a way that conveys her true feelings for noone does these 2 acts the way she does.I think it would be better for Lion-o to explore his options and deal with other female characters I feel they shouldn't force L/C any further at this point in the game( but not destroy what Ep1-12 built if we get the L/C end) we still have 39 eps left maybe L/C will evolve over the course of the story as a whole . Lion-o should be free to explore other options. Cheetara needs some serious compitition asap her days being top female cat needs to change in my opinion! Maybe then she will learn what it means too make her feelings clear.

I disagree.

If it is T/C, then they did destory E1-12.

Explore what? He is the main character, his interest is not going to get only 3 episodes. That is a insult to lion-o fans.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:49 PM

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So, how do you think Lion-o and Tygra will deal with her conflicted feelings?

One way will be like the Ep 14 scenario I did. Another way will be following the Evolved Triangle Scenario. All falls into the pieces as I expected.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:52 PM

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I disagree.

If it is T/C, then they did destory E1-12.

Explore what? He is the main character, his interest is not going to get 3 episodes.

Dont worry, this is good, all the pieces are begining to fit.

stormbringer · 01-06-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

One way will be like the Ep 14 scenario I did. Another way will be following the Evolved Triangle Scenario. All falls into the pieces as I expected.

This is definately shaping up to be JL all over again.

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

OK you guys wanted a definitive answer. Be careful what you wish for. Been talking to Dan Norton on FB and he offered to answer questions I had on the show since the Tumblr blog hadn't been updated.

So this was my question:
"One thing that I've been discussing with some people on a forum is wither or not Cheetara actually "chose" Tygra at the end of episode 13. They're saying that it was an illusion or it was mumm-ra in disguise or that she went there to talk him out of betraying Lion-O."

This was his answer:
"Cheetara chose Tygra... it's not Mumm-RA"

So take from that what you will.

Please tell him that I think they wrote a poor story.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:54 PM

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This is definately shaping up to be JL all over again.

Indeed all ships are go! with mainly tipping on Lion-O/Cheetara

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 05:55 PM

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Like I said before it does not matter who she has chosen. because the highest good thing and not striing up the pot. That's just to clarify that was not an illusions. looks like the Conflicted feelings theory will come true.

But that is not the highest good.

Highest good would have been to talk to lion-o first.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:56 PM

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Please tell him that I think they wrote a poor story.

That's why I have mostly made my anaysis assuming that dreaded scene was real. Now it's clearer some of those analysis will come true.

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Unfortunately, stirring the pot is exactly what cheetara has done.

Agreed.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

But that is not the highest good.

Highest good would have been to talk to lion-o first.

Like I wrote way back on the why of it. http://www.thundercats.ws/thundercat.../24/#post24715

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 05:59 PM

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Agreed.

Which is whyCheetara will definitely fix it in the next episodes

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 05:59 PM

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That's why I have mostly made my anaysis assuming that dreaded scene was real. Now it's clearer some of those analysis will come true.

"Hehehheheh... not to make implications... but in entertainment... Nothing is ever certain... Not even death."

That was stupid.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 06:00 PM

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"Hehehheheh... not to make implications... but in entertainment... Nothing is ever certain... Not even death."

That was stupid.

That was a clue that cheetara will fix it in the next episodes.

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 06:01 PM

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Dont worry, this is good, all the pieces are begining to fit.

I am not worried, it goes to show you that they are poor writers.

Balgus82 · 01-06-2012, 06:02 PM

I think there will be explanations in episode 14 cause Lion-O is sure to be extremely confused.

I don't know why people keep saying the writers won't make Cheetara stir "up the pot" though. If she stirs up the pot it brings more conflict into the show. they need conflict else it'll just get boring.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 06:03 PM

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I am not worried, it goes to show you that they are poor writers.

Yeah that was one poor writing indeed.

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 06:06 PM

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Yeah that was one poor writing indeed.

I would be embarrassed to write that episode like they did.

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 06:10 PM

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That was a clue that cheetara will fix it in the next episodes.

Do you believe that?

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 06:10 PM

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I would be embarrassed to write that episode like they did.

Ep13 was indeed a thorn in the history of this new Tcats. Look at the bright sight some of our discussions and theories have even more higher chance of coming to light!

L08e16o · 01-06-2012, 06:12 PM

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Ep13 was indeed a thorn in the history of this new Tcats. Look at the bright sight some of our discussions and theories have even more higher chance of coming to light!

My whole problem is Annet's prediction. They screwed that up and why make the whole dialogue so vague.

cmangund · 01-06-2012, 06:13 PM

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Do you believe that?

The highest good thing. and the JL pattern, the theories, the interviews all fits.
Of course it can also be another long story arch that will lead to the Lion-O/Cheetara making out kiss at Ep 26 like Bats/wondy. Point is may anlaysis of Cheetara's character with my writer friends was right, so we managed to get her right thus there's very high chance the evolved triangle scenario will come true or like Ep 14.

01-06-2012, 05:06 PM	#3604
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by DarkKnight yeah she wont slap him. New Avatar Image, Another one of the GLARES

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DarkKnight im gonna blow your mind Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 602	Quote: Originally Posted by cmangund New Avatar Image, Another one of the GLARES I am not goku or vegeta I am Gogeta! It's over mumm-ra I've come for you!

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cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer Nope, besides she's a cleric Im sure she's more diplomatic than that. Agreed. She's supposed to be wise, as Jaga taught her (hopefully those rumors of Jaga the old coot womanizer were wrong).

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DarkKnight im gonna blow your mind Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 602	Quote: Originally Posted by cmangund Agreed. She's supposed to be wise, as Jaga taught her (hopefully those rumors of Jaga the old coot womanizer were wrong). he better not be a coot.

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cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Like I said before it does not matter who she has chosen. because the highest good thing and not striing up the pot. That's just to clarify that was not an illusions. looks like the Conflicted feelings theory will come true. Last edited by cmangund; 01-06-2012 at 05:34 PM..