Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I sum up the CN seasons like this from what I saw with the theme.

1-13 second best
14-26 love triangle

Ep1-13 Yes Second Best plus "Starting" Love Triangle.

No, Ep14-16 Evolved "Ending" Love Triangle tipping to Lion-O/Cheetara with soft proper due on L/C Ep14 and the hard proper due on Ep26. Or they can do a direct 180 with the SoO/Chetara/Lion-O connection.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

They won't. At the expense of drama. To me if they wanted the T/C, I think they would have built it from the begining.

All the guys and girls would fight over who would be lion-o and cheetara. Kids always made them a couple.

They add T/C "suddenly" to the mix to add layers, pain, conflict, suffering, drama to the story. Lion-O/Cheetara keep on developing even in Ep13, despite the Ep13 ending, its fact. Just like the "sudden appearance" of Steve Trevor out of the blue.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

They were sold on L/C from 1-12, know they feel betrayed.

Totally, the worst kind of betrayal from the crew to us Lion-O/Cheetara fans!

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yup that "evil laugh" is a clear indication that they are playing with us viewers, especially with the triangle. Death is a far more permanent unchangable thing rather than relationship, if even that more pemanent thing is not certain then relationship can easily be played around.

The review came from someone that has experience reviewing shows, so its a more "profesional view" of the show.

I knew they were getting a twisted pleasure from our suffering!

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

In the end most people want the hero to get the girl.

Yup, "We wanted to potray a classic "hero's journey".." One of many main clues

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I knew they were getting a twisted pleasure from our suffering!

Darn villains! As the protectors of the crown, The crew will feel the musketeers wrath raining down on them, CHARGE!

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

It is dumb.

In anime the triangle starts withe the main m/F, but the other person comes in around E3. They go back and forth giving equal time to each couple until in is resolve.

They didn't do that here.

This dumb triangle can work to our advantage! They can do another 180 directly next episode.

OR of course the Evolved Triangle where Cheetara will get stuck, cannot choosing either brothers after she knows Lion-O feelings and that she's hurting him bad,then the Lion-O/Cheetara thing developing Until EP26 she will go to Lion-O as Tygra will be more okay by then

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yup that "evil laugh" is a clear indication that they are playing with us viewers, especially with the triangle. Death is a far more permanent unchangable thing rather than relationship, if even that more pemanent thing is not certain then relationship can easily be played around.

The review came from someone that has experience reviewing shows, so its a more "profesional view" of the show.

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Originally Posted by cmangund

This dumb triangle can work to our advantage! They can do another 180 directly next episode.

OR of course the Evolved Triangle where Cheetara will get stuck, cannot choosing either brothers after she knows Lion-O feelings and that she's hurting him bad,then the Lion-O/Cheetara thing developing Until EP26 she will go to Lion-O as Tygra will be more okay by then

I just hope the writers have put as much thought into this as you have!

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I just hope the writers have put as much thought into this as you have!

Thanks.

If the writers are going crazy, then of course there is always a "more direct approach" where it will end badly for the crew.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I admitted when I relayed that quote that it could mean that Cheetara would change her mind down the road. I've never denied that. Though unlike some people I would rather it be gradual instead of happening in the next 3 or 4 episodes because that would just make Cheetara look even worse.

TCL review is just that. a review. it's personal opinion.

Can't comment on Bioware because I've never played their games.

You are missing out.

DA and Elder scroll 5.

I think we won't get the final until E26.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Well idk who said that, but I'm going with what Dan said. and he works for WB, not CN.

That is fine.

Can you ask Dan (Sorry to ask) if Annet's prediction influence to go to tygra and choose him?

Thanks.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yup that "evil laugh" is a clear indication that they are playing with us viewers, especially with the triangle. Death is a far more permanent unchangable thing rather than relationship, if even that more pemanent thing is not certain then relationship can easily be played around.

The review came from someone that has experience reviewing shows, so its a more "profesional view" of the show.

See that is wrong.

Thanks.

I wonder what panthero will think when he see Grune.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Ep1-13 Yes Second Best plus "Starting" Love Triangle.

No, Ep14-16 Evolved "Ending" Love Triangle tipping to Lion-O/Cheetara with soft proper due on L/C Ep14 and the hard proper due on Ep26. Or they can do a direct 180 with the SoO/Chetara/Lion-O connection.

I agree.

I would like to know why cheetara wait to go to tygra, I still belive is has to do with the prediction.

I am so hoping they see him when the bells ring, that would add a lot of drama.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I wonder what panthero will think when he see Grune.

Panthro will definitely beat the crap out of Grune with his brand new arms and nunchucks

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

They add T/C "suddenly" to the mix to add layers, pain, conflict, suffering, drama to the story. Lion-O/Cheetara keep on developing even in Ep13, despite the Ep13 ending, its fact. Just like the "sudden appearance" of Steve Trevor out of the blue.

Agreed. If they wanted it they would have started it earlier.

I think this will make lion-o tell him true feelings instead of being a little boy about it.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Panthro will definitely beat the crap out of Grune with his brand new arms and nunchucks

Grune might come back as a cyborg.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Totally, the worst kind of betrayal from the crew to us Lion-O/Cheetara fans!

Agreed. I was like WTF.

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

See that is wrong.

Thanks.

I wonder what panthero will think when he see Grune.

If Grunes a ghost, Panthro will probably be freaked out. Though being the resident "tough guy" he'll do his best not to show it.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I agree.

I would like to know why cheetara wait to go to tygra, I still belive is has to do with the prediction.

I am so hoping they see him when the bells ring, that would add a lot of drama.

The prophecy as one of the reasons for cheetara is still inline with Dan's comments.

They could also make it like that.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Grune might come back as a cyborg.

Cyborg VS Cyborg

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

This dumb triangle can work to our advantage! They can do another 180 directly next episode.

OR of course the Evolved Triangle where Cheetara will get stuck, cannot choosing either brothers after she knows Lion-O feelings and that she's hurting him bad,then the Lion-O/Cheetara thing developing Until EP26 she will go to Lion-O as Tygra will be more okay by then

I think tygra would be ok with it, he is more mature.

Lion-o on the other hand to me would be more rash.

I am waiting for cheetara's angle. Then lion-o's.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

If Grunes a ghost, Panthro will probably be freaked out. Though being the resident "tough guy" he'll do his best not to show it.

There's a good chance Grune will be upgraded as well as L08e16o said.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

If Grunes a ghost, Panthro will probably be freaked out. Though being the resident "tough guy" he'll do his best not to show it.

He will need a berbils doll to sleep at night from the Grune.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

The prophecy as one of the reasons for cheetara is still inline with Dan's comments.

They could also make it like that.

I agree. He didn't elebrate on his answer, I know spoiler.

I still believe legacy is a foreshadow of things to come.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I think tygra would be ok with it, he is more mature.

Lion-o on the other hand to me would be more rash.

I am waiting for cheetara's angle. Then lion-o's.

Technically yes. We can also assume Tygra has more experience with female cats. So it will not that difficult for Tygra (especially the 8 frickin years)

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

He will need a berbils doll to sleep at night from the Grune.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Technically yes. We can also assume Tygra has more experience with female cats. So it will not that difficult for Tygra (especially the 8 frickin years)

Agreed.

I think tygra will feel really bad, he said he would never betray him. I know that it is not betray, but he has really hurt him.

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

He will need a berbils doll to sleep at night from the Grune.

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Originally Posted by cmangund

There's a good chance Grune will be upgraded as well as L08e16o said.

I wonder how much of Grune will get "upgraded" ?

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I agree. He didn't elebrate on his answer, I know spoiler.

I still believe legacy is a foreshadow of things to come.

In Season 1 Lion-O already has been given a lip kiss, that's one of the reason cheetara did not give Lion-O a lip kiss. Season 2 will be a different story, the brothers are equal know with lip kisses 1 VS 1(L VS T) and with Lion-O winning on the cheek kisses.

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Technically yes. We can also assume Tygra has more experience with female cats. So it will not that difficult for Tygra (especially the 8 frickin years)

Yeah somehow I doubt Tygra remained soley devoted to someone he hadn't seen in 8 years.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

This dumb triangle can work to our advantage! They can do another 180 directly next episode.

OR of course the Evolved Triangle where Cheetara will get stuck, cannot choosing either brothers after she knows Lion-O feelings and that she's hurting him bad,then the Lion-O/Cheetara thing developing Until EP26 she will go to Lion-O as Tygra will be more okay by then

You're correct again. They like 180s and they like to PO us off.

I think it will evolve and in 26 we get a real kiss.

That is going to be really hard for cheetara. I wonder if she made it worse thinking she could stop tygra.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yeah somehow I doubt Tygra remained soley devoted to someone he hadn't seen in 8 years.

A not very difficult deduction indeed. Good one stormbringer

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yeah somehow I doubt Tygra remained soley devoted to someone he hadn't seen in 8 years.

It turns out during the 8 frickin years Tygra had a relationship with Pumyra! Cheetara knows this will slap Tygra or even hit Tygra with the Pole then go straight to Lion-O and give Lion-O a making out kiss in front of Tygra

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Technically yes. We can also assume Tygra has more experience with female cats. So it will not that difficult for Tygra (especially the 8 frickin years)

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

You're correct again. They like 180s and they like to PO us off.

I think it will evolve and in 26 we get a real kiss.

That is going to be really hard for cheetara. I wonder if she made it worse thinking she could stop tygra.

I have yet to see any good come out of the ending to that last episode.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I wonder how much of Grune will get "upgraded" ?

That's a tough one. No clues at all. Unless there's a new Grune Toyline.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I have yet to see any good come out of the ending to that last episode.

You can get one good thing, Lion-O really relizes his feelings for Cheetara. Thus Jelenic comment on the lion-O/Cheetara thing we get more with each episode.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yeah somehow I doubt Tygra remained soley devoted to someone he hadn't seen in 8 years.

I agree, I had a crush on someone for 3 years when I was kid. I finally realize I didn't like her. I was kid, so I was dumb.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

It turns out during the 8 frickin years Tygra had a relationship with Pumyra! Cheetara knows this will slap Tygra or even hit Tygra with the Pole then go straight to Lion-O and give Lion-O a making out kiss in front of Tygra

That would be great, but she would even feel more bad.

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

It turns out during the 8 frickin years Tygra had a relationship with Pumyra! Cheetara knows this will slap Tygra or even hit Tygra with the Pole then go straight to Lion-O and give Lion-O a making out kiss in front of Tygra

And Tygra will say to Cheetara "don't hate the player hate the game"!

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

That's a tough one. No clues at all. Unless there's a new Grune Toyline.

You know he is coming back.

He has a lot of fans.

L08e16o · 01-07-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

And Tygra will say to Cheetara "don't hate the player hate the game"!

Word!

Hate the game baby.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

That would be great, but she would even feel more bad.

Nah its OOC for cheetara if she slap Tygra. She will not slap Tygra, but she will go to Lion-O as she can express her feelings freely to Lion-O now without worrying about Tygra.

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Nah its OOC for cheetara if she slap Tygra. She will not slap Tygra, but she will go to Lion-O.

Maybe the NS Pumyra will be more "don't f with me".

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

You know he is coming back.

He has a lot of fans.

Definitely, Grune is coming back.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Maybe the NS Pumyra will be more "don't f with me".

Yeah Maybe Pumyra will be the one that slaps Tygra! Tygra will loose both female cats! since Cheetara is with Lion-O now, he will go to Pumyra to fix things. mostly Tygra's damaged "gun"

stormbringer · 01-07-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Nah its OOC for cheetara if she slap Tygra. She will not slap Tygra, but she will go to Lion-O as she can express her feelings freely to Lion-O now without worrying about Tygra.

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yeah Maybe Pumyra will be the one that slaps Tygra! Tygra will loose both female cats! since Cheetara is with Lion-O now, he will go to Pumyra to fix things. mostly Tygra's damaged "gun"

Then Tygra will catch her with Bengali and a new triangle is born BWAHAHAHA!

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Then Tygra will catch her with Bengali and a new triangle is born BWAHAHAHA!

EXACTLY!!!! JL style ships!

It will be very hard for the crew to resist doing something like that.

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 06:40 PM

If Pumyra will be attracted to Lion-O, Cheetara will get jealous regardless T/C running or not, this will also help the evolved triangle develpoment of Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

Big Snarf · 01-07-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Panthro will definitely beat the crap out of Grune with his brand new arms and nunchucks

He couldn't even beat regular grune

cmangund · 01-07-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

He couldn't even beat regular grune

Well maybe with the new arms and nunchucks he can!

01-07-2012, 03:45 PM	#3801
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o I sum up the CN seasons like this from what I saw with the theme. 1-13 second best 14-26 love triangle Ep1-13 Yes Second Best plus "Starting" Love Triangle. No, Ep14-16 Evolved "Ending" Love Triangle tipping to Lion-O/Cheetara with soft proper due on L/C Ep14 and the hard proper due on Ep26. Or they can do a direct 180 with the SoO/Chetara/Lion-O connection. Last edited by cmangund; 01-07-2012 at 04:30 PM..

01-07-2012, 03:53 PM	#3805
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o In the end most people want the hero to get the girl. Yup, "We wanted to potray a classic "hero's journey".." One of many main clues Last edited by cmangund; 01-07-2012 at 03:55 PM..

01-07-2012, 03:59 PM	#3807
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o It is dumb. In anime the triangle starts withe the main m/F, but the other person comes in around E3. They go back and forth giving equal time to each couple until in is resolve. They didn't do that here. This dumb triangle can work to our advantage! They can do another 180 directly next episode. OR of course the Evolved Triangle where Cheetara will get stuck, cannot choosing either brothers after she knows Lion-O feelings and that she's hurting him bad,then the Lion-O/Cheetara thing developing Until EP26 she will go to Lion-O as Tygra will be more okay by then Last edited by cmangund; 01-07-2012 at 04:29 PM..

01-07-2012, 06:05 PM	#3842
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o That would be great, but she would even feel more bad. Nah its OOC for cheetara if she slap Tygra. She will not slap Tygra, but she will go to Lion-O as she can express her feelings freely to Lion-O now without worrying about Tygra. Last edited by cmangund; 01-07-2012 at 06:12 PM..

01-07-2012, 06:14 PM	#3845
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer Maybe the NS Pumyra will be more "don't f with me". Yeah Maybe Pumyra will be the one that slaps Tygra! Tygra will loose both female cats! since Cheetara is with Lion-O now, he will go to Pumyra to fix things. mostly Tygra's damaged "gun" Last edited by cmangund; 01-07-2012 at 06:16 PM..