Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

stormbringer · 12-09-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

I would guess only lion-o can pull it out seeing jaga is dead now. OR maybe it can't be removed as its permanently merged with the sword as it was in the OS. I'm waiting to see lion-o say sword of omen come to my hand

Java mentioned there being a spell to prevent the eye from being touched by evil, and Mumm-ra wanted him to remove it. If the spell was removed I wonder if the link to Leos bloodline would go with it?

Big Snarf · 12-09-2011, 06:18 PM

There is no caste system among the thundercats. In the cast system if you are born poor you stay poor. Tygra would not have been adopted by the king if that were the case nor would panthro and grune move up the ranks. And cheetara must have been poor as a child but she didn't have a tail either. There are social differences but it doesn't prevent promotion like a caste system would

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chique

Once again, did not call her/him a racist. Said the logic behind that post was racist.
What about this are you not understanding? Saying that Lions are superior over all the other races of cats is a racist mindset. Its racist because it implies Lions are better simply because they are lions. Do you understand now ?

I dont care what race of cat wields the sword. I dont care if its a lion, tiger, mountain lion, cheetah or a freaking ocelot. I have no problem with Lion-O wielding the sword. Where are you getting this? We were talking about interpreting someone's post, not about my personal hang ups.

Its not the struggle against the lizards that is so reminiscent of a cast system. The cats were dividing themselves up by appearances. The lower level cats, or the ones at the bottom of the cast system all have tails. Those without tails are considered better and more evolved. Look up information about the cast system in india please.

You can admit that the show is portraying racism between the lizards and the cats, but then you called me crazy for talking about racism in a cartoon. Oddly enough, I wasn't even talking about racism in the context of the show as much as I was talking about the ideas behind a forum post. Yet here you are confirming something you ridiculed me for suggesting . Huh.

It is not racist. If someone thinks cats are better than dogs; which I do. Does that make me racist? Animals are a speices not a race.

That person's post started about the lion's weilding the SoO, people got bent out of shape and said other could weild it too. That was my point of 60 pages of nothing.

I think their is discrimination in the cartoon. You brought up catoons. The writers are showing how the cats have different societies. They discrimated against, not racist.

You could say the cats got what was coming to them.

Actually I have been to cochin India in 97. Very poor area. Now we are talking real life. There will always be injustice done in the world. Human trafiicing is really bad (I didn't know until I traveled most of the Asian area). As you said kids don't have a chance, they have to work in whatever business they are born in. Women have it worst, I think.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Java mentioned there being a spell to prevent the eye from being touched by evil, and Mumm-ra wanted him to remove it. If the spell was removed I wonder if the link to Leos bloodline would go with it?

Who put the spell on it, I wonder.

The cougars smithed the sword, but who put the spell on it. Maybe it was the women cat.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 06:26 PM

I wonder if the cats had a civil war.

Did the cats that were still with mummra join their own faction.

Big Snarf · 12-09-2011, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Java mentioned there being a spell to prevent the eye from being touched by evil, and Mumm-ra wanted him to remove it. If the spell was removed I wonder if the link to Leos bloodline would go with it?

Probably not i think the sword is alive as it can choose who it wants to have it. It was very much alive in the OS. We just have to wait and see

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 06:34 PM

Another piece of clue of cheetara's character is when
an interviewer from buzz focus.com asked about the triangle
at Comic-Con.

The interviewer said cheetara is like
sancha from the borgias, she said:

Cheetara is a much better person than sancha.
Cheetara is at least she is going for the higest good of all Those involved, while sancha just stirs up the pot.

Sancha from the borgias had affairs with both Cesare
and Giovanni. Based on that I think she will try her best not to
hurt either brothers feelings (i.e. higest good), and
not stirring up the pot, like she said.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 06:37 PM

So you think she will chose duty over the conflict?

If she does, I still want the T/P and lion-o with no love interest.

You think if one of the brothers say they are fine with her with the other, she would be ok?

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

So you think she will chose duty over the conflict?

If she does, I still want the T/P and lion-o with no love interest.

You think if one of the brothers say they are fine with her with the other, she would be ok?

I think it will be an open triangle, like my french writer friend's comments that I posted back in thread.

Her feelings with both brothers won't change and both brother's feelings to her won't change either. so I think it will be a stalemate. like before minus the competion feud between the brothers.

Chique · 12-09-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

It is not racist. If someone thinks cats are better than dogs; which I do. Does that make me racist? Animals are a speices not a race. Not really. A species is a group of organisms who live in the same area and can reproduce under normal circumstances to produce fertile offsrping. A cheetah, lion and Tiger are not the same species. You're approaching this discussion as if these were wild animals and not capable of higher learning and living beyond instinct. If that was the case then all of these comments regarding Cheetara as a ho are fundamentally bank rupt. She's an animal, not a person. She chose the male who would help her produce stronger cubs and thus keep her race from becoming extinct. Tigers are stronger and more durable then Lions. Why is everyone slamming on her for looking out for the health and endurance of her future litter? Same for all of the comments about Tygra. He's a tiger, a lion would be his biggest competitor. Its only normal for his animal instinct to want to push Lion-O out of his territory. Why complain that hes so much stronger then Lion-O? In most of the cases in which the two species interacted a Tiger usually comes out on top.

That person's post started about the lion's weilding the SoO, people got bent out of shape and said other could weild it too. That was my point of 60 pages of nothing.

I think their is discrimination in the cartoon. You brought up catoons. The writers are showing how the cats have different societies. They discrimated against, not racist.

You could say the cats got what was coming to them.

Actually I have been to cochin India in 97. Very poor area. Now we are talking real life. There will always be injustice done in the world. Human trafiicing is really bad (I didn't know until I traveled most of the Asian area). As you said kids don't have a chance, they have to work in whatever business they are born in. Women have it worst, I think.

One thing I do hope is since India's economy turns around, I hope the people will benifit from it. They are some amazing works, they strip down a steel ship with normal tools.

So its not racist because these are anamorphic cats, instead of humanes? Never mind that the only feline features that have are extra hair ,claws and sharper canines....
Seriously, you cant comprehend how these ideas of racism could easily be worked into a cartoon? Racism is a form of discrimination.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

I think it will be an open triangle, like my french writer friend's comments that I posted back in thread.

Thanks.

Well they will get their layers.

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Thanks.

Well they will get their layers.

Her feelings with both brothers won't change and both brother's feelings to her won't change either. so I think it will be a stalemate. like before minus the competion feud between the brothers.

Based on the WB JL shows that I watched that has the same exec. producer and some same writers with Tcats. When Pyumra comes along, maybe she will be attracted to Lion-O and Tygra, and cheetara will get jealous (duty and feelings jealousy) and will go to the Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra/Pumyra quardapleangle. But hopefully it will not come to that, as the triangle is already complex as it is.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chique

So its not racist because these are anamorphic cats, instead of humanes? Never mind that the only feline features that have are extra hair ,claws and sharper canines....
Seriously, you cant comprehend how these ideas of racism could easily be worked into a cartoon?

I never said cheetara was a ho. I said that was OOC of her, from what she did.

Hate tell you, but like someone pointed out. Cheetara is apart of lion-o's pride. He is the alpha male.

Than the tigers should be ruling right.

I thought most tigers are in southern asia and lions are in africa. They rarely come across each other. I know lions and cheetas come in contact a lot.

It is a cartoon about different speices. They are not races.

Yes, I can see how they can be implemented in a cartoon, but what started this was people were bent out of shape of what someone said about lions. Calling that person racist because they like lions better.

If you look at ancient history, you see lions more than tigers. Lion of Judah. I love all cats.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Her feelings with both brothers won't change and both brother's feelings to her won't change either. so I think it will be a stalemate. like before minus the competion feud between the brothers.

Based on the WB JL shows that I watched that has the same exec. producer and some same writers with Tcats. When Pyumra comes along, maybe she will be attracted to Lion-O and Tygra, and cheetara will get jealous (duty and feelings jealousy) and will go to the Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra/Pumyra quardapleangle. But hopefully it will not come to that, as the triangle is already complex as it is.

So you think there will be no end to it? That is going to be some major shipping wars.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Her feelings with both brothers won't change and both brother's feelings to her won't change either. so I think it will be a stalemate. like before minus the competion feud between the brothers.

Based on the WB JL shows that I watched that has the same exec. producer and some same writers with Tcats. When Pyumra comes along, maybe she will be attracted to Lion-O and Tygra, and cheetara will get jealous (duty and feelings jealousy) and will go to the Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra/Pumyra quardapleangle. But hopefully it will not come to that, as the triangle is already complex as it is.

I hope lion-o dosen't compete with tygra over pyumra. He is going to get hurt again and tygra is going to start his own harem.

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

So you think there will be no end to it? That is going to be some major shipping wars.

Well based on the current collected clues and interviews and comments from writers, etc etc. yes it will be like Justice League show, and open tringle/quardapleangle with enough bases for either pairings to work. Maybe with some hints here and there about the possible future.

Superstar · 12-09-2011, 07:04 PM

This whole couple thing is still funny. For one Lion O had multiple female love interest in the original. Two of them were human though. But the series seemed to focus in on Cheetara which was a bad idea. Especially considering she is the only known adult female in their group. That was bound to cause a rift between fans in the series.

Though people seemed to be hung on the comic book hook up Cheetara and Tygra. For one to the main fans who just watched the show and not the comics it was always Lion O and Cheetara who seemed like a match. Add fuel to the fire they turned Tygra into a full blown douche that would even make Sasuke look good.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Well based on the current collected clues and interviews and comments from writers, etc etc. yes it will be like Justice League show, and open tringle/quardapleangle with enough bases for either pairings to work. Maybe with some hints here and there about the possible future.

I thought the biggest clue was the legacy episode.

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I thought the biggest clue was the legacy episode.

yeah I think that is the biggest clue for possible future for Lion-O and Cheetara. Not the dying part of course but the hooking up part.

Chique · 12-09-2011, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I never said cheetara was a ho. I said that was OOC of her, from what she did.

Hate tell you, but like someone pointed out. Cheetara is apart of lion-o's pride. He is the alpha male.

Than the tigers should be ruling right.

I thought most tigers are in southern asia and lions are in africa. They rarely come across each other. I know lions and cheetas come in contact a lot.

It is a cartoon about different speices. They are not races.

Yes, I can see how they can be implemented in a cartoon, but what started this was people were bent out of shape of what someone said about lions. Calling that person racist because they like lions better.

If you look at ancient history, you see lions more than tigers. Lion of Judah. I love all cats.

Aww look at chu! Trying to work shipping into it. If your going to go the route then you should acknowledge that Lions and Cheetahs are each others worst enemy. Lions have been known to kill off Cheetahs and their cubs because of their natural instinct to compete for food and territory. Sounds romantic right? Besides even though Cheetahs and Lions fight for the same territory, they are not of the same species. They can NOT produce fertile off spring and would NOT mate under normal circumstances.

Lion-O leads but is not an alpha male. He's being followed because these are not animals, but instead furry humans. They see him as their king because he is the biological son of Claudus, not because he is stronger or more fit. Tygra is a better fighter than Lion-O (as of now). Panthro is the best fighter. If this was a pack of animals, Panthro would be the leader.
Also about the history. If you look at eastern tails, Tigers are more prevalent.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Superstar

This whole couple thing is still funny. For one Lion O had multiple female love interest in the original. Two of them were human though. But the series seemed to focus in on Cheetara which was a bad idea. Especially considering she is the only known adult female in their group. That was bound to cause a rift between fans in the series.

Though people seemed to be hung on the comic book hook up Cheetara and Tygra. For one to the main fans who just watched the show and not the comics it was always Lion O and Cheetara who seemed like a match. Add fuel to the fire they turned Tygra into a full blown douche that would even make Sasuke look good.

Agree.

OS was different. Cheetara held lion-o as a baby and then poof he is an adult. All my friend (boys and girls at the time) wanted L/C and P/T. A lot of them like pyumra better.

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I hope lion-o dosen't compete with tygra over pyumra. He is going to get hurt again and tygra is going to start his own harem.

I think the brothers have learn the their lesson at this point of having a feud over a woman or a female cat in this case

It will be cheetara's turn at this point to learn a lesson not to feud over a man or a male cat with another female cat.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chique

Aww look at chu! Trying to work shipping into it. If your going to go the route then you should acknowledge that Lions and Cheetahs are each others worst enemy. Lions have been known to kill off Cheetahs and their cubs because of their natural instinct to compete for food and territory. Sounds romantic right? Besides even though Cheetah and Lions fight for the same territory, they are not of the same species. They can NOT produce fertile off spring and would NOT mate under normal circumstances.

Lion-O leads but is not an alpha male. He's being followed because these are not animals, but instead furry humans. They see him as their king because he is the biological son of Claudus, not because he is stronger or more fit. Tygra is a better fighter than Lion-O (as of now). Panthro is the best fighter. If this was a pack of animals, Panthro would be the leader.

Panthro is the Cat, to take out your enemy by any means. I don't think anyone can top that. He would be the alpha if we go that direction. I agree.

To be honest, the male lion is lazy, the females do all the work. All he does eat and mate.

Actually panthers are my favorite cat.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

I think the brothers have learn the their lesson at this point of having a feud over a woman or a female cat in this case

You think lion-o will give up?

I don't think he has thrown in the towel yet.

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

You think lion-o will give up?

give up on cheetara, no the brothers feelings for cheetara won't change. the brothers will not give up on cheetara, but they will not fight over it either. just let it flow naturally.

It will be Cheetara's turn at this point to learn not to feud over a male cat with another female cat (Pumyra) if they will make pumyra like that.

Superstar · 12-09-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Agree.

OS was different. Cheetara held lion-o as a baby and then poof he is an adult. All my friend (boys and girls at the time) wanted L/C and P/T. A lot of them like pyumra better.

My thing is right now the most upsetting thing about the episode was his loss to Tygra. This show has practically dragged Lion O in the mud. In the original series he was way tougher. Maybe they will make up for it in the trials.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

give up on cheetara, no the brothers feelings for cheetara won't change. the brothers will not give up on cheetara, but they will not fight over it either. just let it flow naturally.

It will be Cheetara's turn at this point to learn not to feud over a male cat with another female cat (Pumyra) if they will make pumyra like that.

You think they will make lion-o mature enough to do that?

Mummra has to have a edge somehow or he should just wait until episode 26 for his defeat.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superstar

My thing is right now the most upsetting thing about the episode was his loss to Tygra. This show has practically dragged Lion O in the mud. In the original series he was way tougher. Maybe they will make up for it in the trials.

That is how I feel.

That is why I said they should rename the title "second best".

I still think lion-o will not finish second with cheetara.

stormbringer · 12-09-2011, 07:23 PM

maybe Lion-o should ask Panthro for some training.

Superstar · 12-09-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

That is how I feel.

That is why I said they should rename the title "second best".

I still think lion-o will not finish second with cheetara.

Let it go bro that ship has sailed. The only thing we can look forward to now is hopefully for some old school Lion O solo adventures. People seem to forget that for the most part Lion O rolled Solo with Snarf. Thats is how he met multiple female characters and made a real character development.

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

You think they will make lion-o mature enough to do that?

Mummra has to have a edge somehow or he should just wait until episode 26 for his defeat.

It will maybe take a couple episodes for Lion-O to reach that point, but I think yeah, Register did say the show is about Lion-O becoming a man from a boy.

Mum-ra needed a lot of fixin definetly, I mean he is suposed to be a major bad ass villain not a whimpy loser.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Superstar

Let it go bro that ship has sailed. The only thing we can look forward to now is hopefully for some old school Lion O solo adventures. People seem to forget that for the most part Lion O rolled Solo with Snarf. Thats is how he met multiple female characters and made a real character development.

It is hard due to the OS and all the little hints from episode 1-11.

If it is set in stone with T/C, watch the rip in the fandom. A lot of OS is very mad. If I was writing, I would have her chose neither. I would take the easy way out.

OS was really about lion-o. My faverite arch was when he had to beat all the TCs.

stormbringer · 12-09-2011, 07:32 PM

Based on Mumm-ras current win-loss record, he absolutely HAS to get the next stone. Otherwise he'll be to overpowered by Lion-o to be any kind of credible threat.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Based on Mumm-ras current win-loss record, he absolutely HAS to get the next stone. Otherwise he'll be to overpowered by Lion-o to be any kind of credible threat.

He needs all the stones. Remember in legacy, lion-o took one of his stones from him with only the sword.

I would love to see mummra get all the stones and the war stone. I like to see how powerful he would have become.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

It will maybe take a couple episodes for Lion-O to reach that point, but I think yeah, Register did say the show is about Lion-O becoming a man from a boy.

Mum-ra needed a lot of fixin definetly, I mean he is suposed to be a major bad ass villain not a whimpy loser.

Do you think they will leave it open at the end (triangle or whatever they do)?

Superstar · 12-09-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

It is hard due to the OS and all the little hints from episode 1-11.

If it is set in stone with T/C, watch the rip in the fandom. A lot of OS is very mad. If I was writing, I would have her chose neither. I would take the easy way out.

OS was really about lion-o. My faverite arch was when he had to beat all the TCs.

This is one of the episodes leading into that arc. If you google the episode list there is only one episode before that arc. The whole problem though is with this series it will leave a bitter taste in the mouth no matter how they resolve the conflict. Which is why the majority of the OS is mad. They set it up like Lion O would come out the better man only to stomp on him again. Which has been a common theme in this series.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Superstar

This is one of the episodes leading into that arc. If you google the episode list there is only one episode before that arc. The whole problem though is with this series it will leave a bitter taste in the mouth no matter how they resolve the conflict. Which is why the majority of the OS is mad. They set it up like Lion O would come out the better man only to stomp on him again. Which has been a common theme in this series.

Agreed.

I never got into the OS fans arguing about the L/C/T/P. Like I said only happy medium is L/C and T/P IMO, but they are going to have to explain it and not rush it. No flash back in a episode before something happens.

Maybe they wanted to make lion-o that way for the first 13 and the next 13 he will steal the show.

IMO, the first 13 tygra came out on top.

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

It is hard due to the OS and all the little hints from episode 1-11.

If it is set in stone with T/C, watch the rip in the fandom. A lot of OS is very mad. If I was writing, I would have her chose neither. I would take the easy way out.

OS was really about lion-o. My faverite arch was when he had to beat all the TCs.

Sam Register said the reason they made thundercats anime is because tcats is like LOTR cartoon version budget wise and Japan is the one that can go with WB's budget. Making an episode ain't cheap, they will not waste anything that's already developed, either "ship" will keep on going to the end of the world. The same with JL shows.

Superstar · 12-09-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Agreed.

Maybe they wanted to make lion-o that way for the first 13 and the next 13 he will steal the show.

IMO, the first 13 tygra came out on top.

He certaintly did. I wouldn't have cared if it weren't for the fact they turned him into a over the top spoiled child. Lion O will pretty much surpass him but the damage has been done. It's hard to get this current image of Lion O out of your head. Definately needs more solo missions.

stormbringer · 12-09-2011, 07:55 PM

what I wanna see is Panthro train Lion-o to be a badass fighter and show up Tygra. Teach him some humility.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Sam Register said the reason they made thundercats anime is because tcats is like LOTR cartoon version budget wise and Japan is the one that can go with WB's budget. Making an episode ain't cheap, they will not waste anything that's already developed, either "ship" will keep on going to the end of the world. The same with JL shows.

You mean they will not make changes be damn?

I know in Japan, they don't PO their fans. If a manga is popular, they will animate it for money.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Superstar

He certaintly did. I wouldn't have cared if it weren't for the fact they turned him into a over the top spoiled child. Lion O will pretty much surpass him but the damage has been done. It's hard to get this current image of Lion O out of your head. Definately needs more solo missions.

Agreed.

Except for the crown, you will always be second best. that was the theme for me.

My kid image (OS) of the thunder cast was L/C and lion-o being great. So far that is ruin, I hope that changes.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

what I wanna see is Panthro train Lion-o to be a badass fighter and show up Tygra. Teach him some humility.

He needs those arms first.

You think lion-o will trust anyone for a while?

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

You mean they will not make changes be damn?

I know in Japan, they don't PO their fans. If a manga is popular, they will animate it for money.

That is also part of the reason (Money) I believe Lion-O/Cheetara Ship and Tygra/Cheetara ship will keep on going. Thus the open Triangle.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

That is also part of the reason (Money) I believe Lion-O/Cheetara Ship and Tygra/Cheetara ship will keep on going. Thus the open Triangle.

Do you think they will leave it open at the end?

I know Naruto's writer trolls on his fans for the shipping. You talk about getting people mad. I don't even think about touching that.

cmangund · 12-09-2011, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Do you think they will leave it open at the end?

I know Naruto's writer trolls on his fans for the shipping. You talk about getting people mad. I don't even think about touching that.

Of course I can be wrong, but Naruto is pure Japan, Tcats is US, drawn in Japan. I am saying this based on the facts,clues,interviews,comments,connections.friend s,etctc that I know so far about WB's cartoon show.

stormbringer · 12-09-2011, 08:09 PM

Panthro may be the only adult Lion-o may feel he can trust at this point. At least he won't have to fight him for a girl!

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Of course I can be wrong, but Naruto is pure Japan, Tcats is US, drawn in Japan. I am saying this based on the facts,clues,interviews,comments,connections.friend s,etctc that I know so far about WB's cartoon show.

Yes, naruto is pure japan.

It will be interesting how the base will react.

L08e16o · 12-09-2011, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Panthro may be the only adult Lion-o may feel he can trust at this point. At least he won't have to fight him for a girl!

Knowing lion-o's luck a panther women cat shows up.

stormbringer · 12-09-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Knowing lion-o's luck a panther women cat shows up.

Sadly you're probably right.

12-09-2011, 06:19 PM	#653
L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by Chique Once again, did not call her/him a racist. Said the logic behind that post was racist. What about this are you not understanding? Saying that Lions are superior over all the other races of cats is a racist mindset. Its racist because it implies Lions are better simply because they are lions. Do you understand now ? I dont care what race of cat wields the sword. I dont care if its a lion, tiger, mountain lion, cheetah or a freaking ocelot. I have no problem with Lion-O wielding the sword. Where are you getting this? We were talking about interpreting someone's post, not about my personal hang ups. Its not the struggle against the lizards that is so reminiscent of a cast system. The cats were dividing themselves up by appearances. The lower level cats, or the ones at the bottom of the cast system all have tails. Those without tails are considered better and more evolved. Look up information about the cast system in india please. You can admit that the show is portraying racism between the lizards and the cats, but then you called me crazy for talking about racism in a cartoon. Oddly enough, I wasn't even talking about racism in the context of the show as much as I was talking about the ideas behind a forum post. Yet here you are confirming something you ridiculed me for suggesting . Huh. It is not racist. If someone thinks cats are better than dogs; which I do. Does that make me racist? Animals are a speices not a race. That person's post started about the lion's weilding the SoO, people got bent out of shape and said other could weild it too. That was my point of 60 pages of nothing. I think their is discrimination in the cartoon. You brought up catoons. The writers are showing how the cats have different societies. They discrimated against, not racist. You could say the cats got what was coming to them. Actually I have been to cochin India in 97. Very poor area. Now we are talking real life. There will always be injustice done in the world. Human trafiicing is really bad (I didn't know until I traveled most of the Asian area). As you said kids don't have a chance, they have to work in whatever business they are born in. Women have it worst, I think. Last edited by L08e16o; 12-09-2011 at 06:32 PM..

12-09-2011, 06:23 PM	#654
L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer Java mentioned there being a spell to prevent the eye from being touched by evil, and Mumm-ra wanted him to remove it. If the spell was removed I wonder if the link to Leos bloodline would go with it? Who put the spell on it, I wonder. The cougars smithed the sword, but who put the spell on it. Maybe it was the women cat. Last edited by L08e16o; 12-09-2011 at 06:25 PM..

12-09-2011, 06:40 PM	#659
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o So you think she will chose duty over the conflict? If she does, I still want the T/P and lion-o with no love interest. You think if one of the brothers say they are fine with her with the other, she would be ok? I think it will be an open triangle, like my french writer friend's comments that I posted back in thread. Her feelings with both brothers won't change and both brother's feelings to her won't change either. so I think it will be a stalemate. like before minus the competion feud between the brothers. Last edited by cmangund; 12-09-2011 at 06:43 PM..

12-09-2011, 06:43 PM	#660
Chique Thunderian Commoner Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 287	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o It is not racist. If someone thinks cats are better than dogs; which I do. Does that make me racist? Animals are a speices not a race. Not really. A species is a group of organisms who live in the same area and can reproduce under normal circumstances to produce fertile offsrping. A cheetah, lion and Tiger are not the same species. You're approaching this discussion as if these were wild animals and not capable of higher learning and living beyond instinct. If that was the case then all of these comments regarding Cheetara as a ho are fundamentally bank rupt. She's an animal, not a person. She chose the male who would help her produce stronger cubs and thus keep her race from becoming extinct. Tigers are stronger and more durable then Lions. Why is everyone slamming on her for looking out for the health and endurance of her future litter? Same for all of the comments about Tygra. He's a tiger, a lion would be his biggest competitor. Its only normal for his animal instinct to want to push Lion-O out of his territory. Why complain that hes so much stronger then Lion-O? In most of the cases in which the two species interacted a Tiger usually comes out on top. That person's post started about the lion's weilding the SoO, people got bent out of shape and said other could weild it too. That was my point of 60 pages of nothing. I think their is discrimination in the cartoon. You brought up catoons. The writers are showing how the cats have different societies. They discrimated against, not racist. You could say the cats got what was coming to them. Actually I have been to cochin India in 97. Very poor area. Now we are talking real life. There will always be injustice done in the world. Human trafiicing is really bad (I didn't know until I traveled most of the Asian area). As you said kids don't have a chance, they have to work in whatever business they are born in. Women have it worst, I think. One thing I do hope is since India's economy turns around, I hope the people will benifit from it. They are some amazing works, they strip down a steel ship with normal tools. So its not racist because these are anamorphic cats, instead of humanes? Never mind that the only feline features that have are extra hair ,claws and sharper canines.... Seriously, you cant comprehend how these ideas of racism could easily be worked into a cartoon? Racism is a form of discrimination. Last edited by Chique; 12-09-2011 at 06:52 PM..

12-09-2011, 06:54 PM	#663
L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by Chique So its not racist because these are anamorphic cats, instead of humanes? Never mind that the only feline features that have are extra hair ,claws and sharper canines.... Seriously, you cant comprehend how these ideas of racism could easily be worked into a cartoon? I never said cheetara was a ho. I said that was OOC of her, from what she did. Hate tell you, but like someone pointed out. Cheetara is apart of lion-o's pride. He is the alpha male. Than the tigers should be ruling right. I thought most tigers are in southern asia and lions are in africa. They rarely come across each other. I know lions and cheetas come in contact a lot. It is a cartoon about different speices. They are not races. Yes, I can see how they can be implemented in a cartoon, but what started this was people were bent out of shape of what someone said about lions. Calling that person racist because they like lions better. If you look at ancient history, you see lions more than tigers. Lion of Judah. I love all cats. Last edited by L08e16o; 12-09-2011 at 06:58 PM..