Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

If they find suvivors, I feel for lion-o. They all wanted tygra to be king. This guy will be more devastated.

I don't think he will get any support from any thunderian.

I would think they'd be glad to know that the heir survived and is trying to stop Mumm-Ra. The survivors probably think Lion-O and Tygra are both dead.

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

That is what I don't like. It is like mummra is an after thought.

It's not that he's an afterthought. It's that they don't want to over-expose him. If Mumm-Ra is in every episode and keeps getting his ass handed to him how is he going to stay a threat?

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

THEY WILL !considering I have done simple pattern logic analysis, simple deduction logic analysis, story analysis and character analysis with the help of writers, Reciprocal/Negative Logic Analysis, What if analysis, Interviews analysis, Simple facts and data analysis. Damn if neither one of it hit the spot I'll be damned!

But they can also do that with that other stuff too I mentioned like what I did in my little scenario of EP14 if they wanted to cut back a little on the Lion-O/Cheetara "juuicy moments" considering they made this for kids too otherwise we can go to adult swim

I hope I don't sound like a jerk for saying this, but you can do all the analysis you want, but the writers are going to do whatever the heck they want to do wither the fans think it makes sense or not. What I mean is their ideas of what should happen might not coincide with your ideas of what should happen.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I do too. I would like some stuff cleared up in the dialogue.

I think they will, but as long as we keep getting the contiuning Lion-O/Cheetara romantic moments I will feel better.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I would think they'd be glad to know that the heir survived and is trying to stop Mumm-Ra. The survivors probably think Lion-O and Tygra are both dead.

True.

The probably be more happy for other cats to be alive. It will be interesting how they deal with the brothers.

Panthero didn't want to accept lion-o.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I hope I don't sound like a jerk for saying this, but you can do all the analysis you want, but the writers are going to do whatever the heck they want to do wither the fans think it makes sense or not. What I mean is their ideas of what should happen might not coincide with your ideas of what should happen.

We know, we are trying to look at in different ways.

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

True.

The probably be more happy for other cats to be alive. It will be interesting how they deal with the brothers.

Panthero didn't want to accept lion-o.

You have to remember that Panthro had been gone for years. He hadn't seen either Lion-O or Tygra since they were cubs, so he didn't know what kind of person he was yet.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

It's not that he's an afterthought. It's that they don't want to over-expose him. If Mumm-Ra is in every episode and keeps getting his ass handed to him how is he going to stay a threat?

I agree, but the Cats struggled to be mummra in the OS.

We have only seen him a couple of times.

I want him to get the stone lion-o has.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

You have to remember that Panthro had been gone for years. He hadn't seen either Lion-O or Tygra since they were cubs, so he didn't know what kind of person he was yet.

Agree, but everyone thought tygra should be king. That doesn't go away.

It will be something lion-o will have to deal with if that happens.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

I think they will, but as long as we keep getting the contiuning Lion-O/Cheetara romantic moments I will feel better.

I will too, but I would like it to be cleared up. I want to know about who she chose.

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I agree, but the Cats struggled to be mummra in the OS.

We have only seen him a couple of times.

I want him to get the stone lion-o has.

There is a 12 inch armor of omens figure with a 4 inch gold Lion-o, so if Lion-o gets the armor I'm not sure if Mumm-ra will get his stone, but he can get others.

[Balgus82]

Mumm-Ra needs to get the other stones. Lion-O can already kick his butt with just two of them. The balance needs to be restored. He'll need one for the Sword of Plun-darr and he'll need a second to create his armor to counter Lion-O's.

I was really hoping he'd get the stone in episode 13. But I suppose the "spirit" stone might not be the most threatening of the stones. Maybe it's the least powerful and that could be why Lion-O could only manifest one arm of his armor.

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Mumm-Ra needs to get the other stones. Lion-O can already kick his butt with just two of them. The balance needs to be restored. He'll need one for the Sword of Plun-darr and he'll need a second to create his armor to counter Lion-O's.

I was really hoping he'd get the stone in episode 13. But I suppose the "spirit" stone might not be the most threatening of the stones. Maybe it's the least powerful and that could be why Lion-O could only manifest one arm of his armor.

Yeah Mumm-ra has been looking kinda pitiful lately, if he doesn't start to get some of the stones soon, Lion-o will be able to sneeze him out of existence.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

That was good about them both touching the sword (SoO), that could be symbolic.

you meant Lion-O's other "sword"

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

you meant Lion-O's other "sword"

That is why I put SoO.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Another excellent analysis. Honestly, L/C have to get together It's just proper storytelling. The writers wouldn't have put all the things you mentioned in the show if they didn't want L/C.

Yeah, also knowing they never wasted ships before.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Mumm-Ra needs to get the other stones. Lion-O can already kick his butt with just two of them. The balance needs to be restored. He'll need one for the Sword of Plun-darr and he'll need a second to create his armor to counter Lion-O's.

I was really hoping he'd get the stone in episode 13. But I suppose the "spirit" stone might not be the most threatening of the stones. Maybe it's the least powerful and that could be why Lion-O could only manifest one arm of his armor.

That is how I feel, mummra shows up, lion-o wins. Next episode is about fishing.

Wasn't it the green stone that made the armor. I always thought the stone on the gaunlet was green.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

That is why I put SoO.

She said she needed to make her feelings clearer (without the pills).

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

There is a 12 inch armor of omens figure with a 4 inch gold Lion-o, so if Lion-o gets the armor I'm not sure if Mumm-ra will get his stone, but he can get others.

Mummra has not chance if lion-o get the AoO.

We never saw what all the stones are capable of doing.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

She said she needed to make her feelings clearer (without the pills).

When she pressed up against his back. Look at what she is wearing.

I don't think a 70 year old would need pills.

I don't know how much clear she can make them. Ok, don't answer that.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Mummra has not chance if lion-o get the AoO.

We never saw what all the stones are capable of doing.

Maybe he will get the next stone using other method instead direct frontal assults as these assasults always failed, since he is not stupid, he will use the more cunning way such as illusions to break the brothers. Like the illusions theories.

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Mumm-Ra needs to get the other stones. Lion-O can already kick his butt with just two of them. The balance needs to be restored. He'll need one for the Sword of Plun-darr and he'll need a second to create his armor to counter Lion-O's.

I was really hoping he'd get the stone in episode 13. But I suppose the "spirit" stone might not be the most threatening of the stones. Maybe it's the least powerful and that could be why Lion-O could only manifest one arm of his armor.

[QUOTE=cmangund;27704]She said she needed to make her feelings clearer (without the pills).[/QUOTE

I could make a joke about "Sword of Omens come to my hand" but I'm not gonna.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

When she pressed up against his back. Look at what she is wearing.

I don't think a 70 year old would need pills.

How don't know how much clear she can make them. Ok, don't answer that.

Let's move this discussions to adult swim

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Maybe he will get the next stone using other method instead direct frontal assults as these assasults always failed, since he is not stupid, he will use the more cunning way such as illusions to break the brothers. Like the illusions theories.

Cunning would be the illusion.

That could cause them to lose focus.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Let's move this discussions to adult swim

No that has to be aired late at night in Japan.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Cunning would be the illusion.

That could cause them to lose focus.

which is why most of us came with that illusions idea for Ep13 ending. It could start like at that ending Mmumm-Ra's illusion plan, because what better ways to break the brothers other than matters of the heart?

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

That is how I feel, mummra shows up, lion-o wins. Next episode is about fishing.

Wasn't it the green stone that made the armor. I always thought the stone on the gaunlet was green.

The stone Leo used was green. The stone Lion-O used was pink. This is why I think that maybe some of the stones are more powerful than others.

I think the green one has something to do with technology. It has a circuit board pattern on it and had an "electronic" sound effect.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

No that has to be aired late at night in Japan.

[cmangund]

[QUOTE=stormbringer;27710]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

She said she needed to make her feelings clearer (without the pills).[/QUOTE

I could make a joke about "Sword of Omens come to my hand" but I'm not gonna.

Darn censorship.

[L08e16o]

So, what could the trail be?

Is it the ceromony for lion-o to be come one with the sword or master it?

or

Could it be trails for him to the king?

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

So, what could the trail be?

Is it the ceromony for lion-o to be come one with the sword or master it?

or

Could it be trails for him to the king?

I think it's too early for the trials for him to be about becoming king. I think it's the SoO or could be a little bit of both.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

The stone Leo used was green. The stone Lion-O used was pink. This is why I think that maybe some of the stones are more powerful than others.

I think the green one has something to do with technology. It has a circuit board pattern on it and had an "electronic" sound effect.

Thanks, I wonder if it was green.

I wonder what the last stone does if lion-o or mummra uses it?

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

I think it's too early for the trials for him to be about becoming king. I think it's the SoO or could be a little bit of both.

I agree, he is not ready to be king. Maybe in E40 something.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

When she pressed up against his back. Look at what she is wearing.

Twice already she pressed hard on Lion-O's back Ep 6 and Ep12 so the third time will be.......

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Thanks, I wonder if it was green.

I wonder what the last stone does if lion-o or mummra uses it?

In the OS it's about Lion-O winning againts the other cats. He will never be able to complete the trials in his current state whether its about defeating the other cats or SoO.

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

So, what could the trail be?

Is it the ceromony for lion-o to be come one with the sword or master it?

or

Could it be trails for him to the king?

All I know is how it was portrayed in the OS. In the OS it was a series of tests the other Thundercats gave him that he had to complete without the sword to prove he was worthy to be Lord of the Thundercats. Also the trials began on his 20th birthday (though it would be his 18th in the NS if they keep that aspect the same).

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Twice already she pressed hard on Lion-O's back Ep 6 and Ep12 so the third time will be.......

Lion-o better hope this cartoon doesn't do the traditional hot springs anime. It might be bare skin next time.

Ok I will stop, you made me go there.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

All I know is how it was portrayed in the OS. In the OS it was a series of tests the other Thundercats gave him that he had to complete without the sword to prove he was worthy to be Lord of the Thundercats. Also the trials began on his 20th birthday (though it would be his 18th in the NS if they keep that aspect the same).

I don't want to see that yet. He can't beat anyone in his condition.

I like that arch of the OS.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Lion-o better hope this cartoon doesn't do the traditional hot springs anime. It might be bare skin next time.

Ok I will stop, you made me go there.

With proper drawing technique, censorship and script they can. in JL they got flash with bikini/swimsuit girls sitting on the edge of the pool talking.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

In the OS it's about Lion-O winning againts the other cats. He will never be able to complete the trials in his current state whether its about defeating the other cats or SoO.

I agree, Snarf could beat lion-o.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I don't want to see that yet. He can't beat anyone in his condition.

I like that arch of the OS.

Yup, unless in Ep 14 they will show us that the fact cheetara has chosen Lion-O! that will incease his morale 4 times or more or at least the triangle like before only with the evolved version with both brothers maturing like the Ep 14 scenario I did. Otherwise Cheetara will just strring up the pot instead of going for the highest good.

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I don't want to see that yet. He can't beat anyone in his condition.

I like that arch of the OS.

Why not? I mean geeze I know the guys a teenager but do ya'll really think he's going to be completely incapable just because a girl doesn't like him?

If anything Cheetara chosing Tygra might finally give Lion-O the extra incentive to beat Tygra in his test.

[Eclipse]

You all agree Tygra will be fine when/if Cheetara chooses Lion-O. Why can't Lion-O do it as well, were the roles reversed? It speaks poorly of Lion-O's view in your minds if he's incapable of anything without "the girl" (in the end, 57 pages and she's a piece of meat to a nice number of you).

I, a Tygra fan, have more faith in the king than that.

[DarkKnight]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

you meant Lion-O's other "sword"

oh dude you're crackig me up

[DarkKnight]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yup, unless in Ep 14 they will show us that the fact cheetara has chosen Lion-O! that will incease his morale 4 times or more or at least the triangle like before only with the evolved version with both brothers maturing like the Ep 14 scenario I did. Otherwise Cheetara will just strring up the pot instead of going for the highest good.

it has to be the truth , or am I gonna have to choke a bitch(tygra, and jaga).

[Balgus82]

oh btw guys I hate to spoil your dreams of a pool/swimsuit episode, but I remembered a post in the blog that was relevant.

"The Cat’s kingdom has been destroyed, they’re people enslaved, they’re being hunted by the Lizard army and Third Earth faces the most evil creature in the known universe Mumm-Ra…. I don’t think a nice trip to the beach is gonna take some stress off. Would Frodo and Samwise take a day at the beach? This is a big story and we have little time to tell it. Fan service is a luxury, we lucky to pick our spots to showcase glimmers of the past. If you really want to see Cheetara in a bikini, you’ll have to look for fan pics. "

Thundercats Crew Blog, Is there any chance we can see some art of them lounging around at a beach or one of those fan-service episodes?

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

oh dude you're crackig me up

Oh just providing some small stress releasing technique for this fight!

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Why not? I mean geeze I know the guys a teenager but do ya'll really think he's going to be completely incapable just because a girl doesn't like him?

If anything Cheetara chosing Tygra might finally give Lion-O the extra incentive to beat Tygra in his test.

I disagree, this is his first crush. If anything, tygra should have been over this ages ago. Hey, lion-o get over it in one night even though cheetara has been coming onto you for a month.

There are adults that have problem getting over rejection.

The sword will not work for lion-o if that is why he is fighting tygra. He would be fighting tygra for the wrong reasons.

[DarkKnight]

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Originally Posted by Eclipse

You all agree Tygra will be fine when/if Cheetara chooses Lion-O. Why can't Lion-O do it as well, were the roles reversed? It speaks poorly of Lion-O's view in your minds if he's incapable of anything without "the girl" (in the end, 57 pages and she's a piece of meat to a nice number of you).

I, a Tygra fan, have more faith in the king than that.

we never said he'll be completely incapable of being king , it'll just be hard on him. what if you were in his place?

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

oh btw guys I hate to spoil your dreams of a pool/swimsuit episode, but I remembered a post in the blog that was relevant.

"The Cat’s kingdom has been destroyed, they’re people enslaved, they’re being hunted by the Lizard army and Third Earth faces the most evil creature in the known universe Mumm-Ra…. I don’t think a nice trip to the beach is gonna take some stress off. Would Frodo and Samwise take a day at the beach? This is a big story and we have little time to tell it. Fan service is a luxury, we lucky to pick our spots to showcase glimmers of the past. If you really want to see Cheetara in a bikini, you’ll have to look for fan pics. "

Thundercats Crew Blog, Is there any chance we can see some art of them lounging around at a beach or one of those fan-service episodes?

Not hurting my feelings. I am making fun how anime's always have hot springs episode.