Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

Balgus82 · 02-15-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Was that confirmed on your last sentence?

How is this happening in his head if he is dead?

He wouldn't acted shock, that makes him look like a loser.

Is what confirmed?

the poster in the other forum who gave the spoilers said that the stone picked the forms of the Thundercats cause it's something he recognizes.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Kids are going to have smoke coming out of their ears, they won't know what is going on.

We don't even have a date for 14.

Maybe CN knows once they air these new episodes, they'll have to end up cancelling the show anyway.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Their desire for this triangle is going to be the death of this show. They've already alienated a large portion of viewers as it is. If they continue it much longer, there won't be enough viewers to keep it on.

There is a divide.

Well, this is what the WB boss wanted.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Is what confirmed?

the poster in the other forum who gave the spoilers said that the stone picked the forms of the Thundercats cause it's something he recognizes.

You're last part of your post.

I remembered him saying the area where kit and kat were was from his memory.

AdamofEternia · 02-15-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Hello again!

Here's the way I see it:

I think she probably just naturally doesn't have many boundaries. She joined the Clerics as a kid. Probably never had any interest in any of the guys in the Clerics facility because she said she chose Tygra way back when he gave her the flower. So she's really never had any romantic male/female interaction. She might not have realized kissing on the cheek had any romantic implications and was just giving him a Kiss for luck.

As for the Spirit Cheetara, it's all in Lion-O's head and they're taking forms from his memories that he'll recognize. Spirit Cheetara probably kissed him on the cheek because deep down he still likes her and the stone is probably reflecting that. Or again, it could be another kiss for luck in the next trials.

what you are saying makes a lot sense but they are just assumptions. if the writers don't convey this to us about her character, we viewers will constantly be in a state of confusion over this matter. we really need a few episodes dedicated to cheetara to better understand her. i don't mean to sound like a hater but im not really liking this version of cheetara. also must liono always be the one to learn these life lessons because it might just be me but the other thundercats aren't perfect either. they have each to me shown their flaws and i believe they need to also learn a few lessons in life as well.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Maybe CN knows once they air these new episodes, they'll have to end up cancelling the show anyway.

I wonder what they are doing? I hate them for getting rid of toonami.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

There is a divide.

Well, this is what the WB boss wanted.

If the WB boss is an L/C fan he's probably regretting giving Jelenic and crew so much free reign. This is a disaster!

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamofEternia

what you are saying makes a lot sense but they are just assumptions. if the writers don't convey this to us about her character, we viewers will constantly be in a state of confusion over this matter. we really need a few episodes dedicated to cheetara to better understand her. i don't mean to sound like a hater but im not really liking this version of cheetara. also must liono always be the one to learn these life lessons because it might just be me but the other thundercats aren't perfect either. they have each to me shown their flaws and i believe they need to also learn a few lessons in life as well.

I agree.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

If the WB boss is an L/C fan he's probably regretting giving Jelenic and crew so much free reign. This is a disaster!

WB boss is going to do what makes the most money. We don't know what any of the people are.

Balgus82 · 02-15-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

You're last part of your post.

I remembered him saying the area where kit and kat were was from his memory.

The part where I said Lion-O still likes her? Of course he does. If he didn't he wouldn't care if she was with Tygra.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I wonder what they are doing? I hate them for getting rid of toonami.

CN's scheduling policies are baffling. It's amazing that they still have a network at all.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

WB boss is going to do what makes the most money. We don't know what any of the people are.

I think they probably aren't going to be too happy with Jelenic.

Balgus82 · 02-15-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamofEternia

what you are saying makes a lot sense but they are just assumptions. if the writers don't convey this to us about her character, we viewers will constantly be in a state of confusion over this matter. we really need a few episodes dedicated to cheetara to better understand her. i don't mean to sound like a hater but im not really liking this version of cheetara. also must liono always be the one to learn these life lessons because it might just be me but the other thundercats aren't perfect either. they have each to me shown their flaws and i believe they need to also learn a few lessons in life as well.

lots of things everyone is talking about now are assumptions. heck thinking Cheetara had any interest in Lion-O in the first place was an assumption because she definitely never said she was. Everyone just assumed she did because of how things looked, just like Lion-O did.

I'm just trying to come up with the most logical conclusion I can think of with the information I've been given. (i.e. if a girl kisses a guy she has no interest in on the cheek then a kiss on the cheek doesn't mean she's interested).

I totally agree the other characters need to be fleshed out and learn lessons as well. That's the one thing that's really been missing from the show. It's a little too Lion-O centric. Supporting characters need to be fleshed out too.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

The part where I said Lion-O still likes her? Of course he does. If he didn't he wouldn't care if she was with Tygra.

I know that. I am just saying if the spirit cheetara was just there to show he likes her, that is lame. Everyone know this. This is just rubbing it in my face as a L/C fan.

If the spirit cheetara kissing or whispering in his ear is just showing his desire, then that makes him look like a loser. Why would he look shocked when he likes her.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

CN's scheduling policies are baffling. It's amazing that they still have a network at all.

They have change leadership before.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I think they probably aren't going to be too happy with Jelenic.

He had to ok it first.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

He had to ok it first.

I guess everyone involved underestimated just how damaging this triangle would be for the fans.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I guess everyone involved underestimated just how damaging this triangle would be for the fans.

This one is a hard one. There were already established ships by fans.

Like naruto, you have no other version of it.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

They have change leadership before.

Hopefully they'll have a change in leadership again soon, so we can actually see some shows on a regular basis.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

This one is a hard one. There were already established ships by fans.

Like naruto, you have no other version of it.

They really should have never done a triangle to begin with. They could have just had either L/C or T/C from the beginning, but instead they wanted a character destroying triangle. Brilliant.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Hopefully they'll have a change in leadership again soon, so we can actually see some shows on a regular basis.

I hated when they changed the AS leadership, that is where you get all these shows.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

They really should have never done a triangle to begin with. They could have just had either L/C or T/C from the beginning, but instead they wanted a character destroying triangle. Brilliant.

I know, but this is how triangles work. They wanted this to be about the main story.

Or no romances.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I know, but this is how triangles work. They wanted this to be about the main story.

Or no romances.

I wonder who the Target audience for the triangle is? Certain things may go over kids heads, and many of the adults can't stand some of the characters now.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I wonder who the Target audience for the triangle is? Certain things may go over kids heads, and many of the adults can't stand some of the characters now.

I wonder about that too. It went over my head.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I hated when they changed the AS leadership, that is where you get all these shows.

I hated what they did to AS, it was great having anime on 7 days s week. Now all we have is anime on Saturday night, with the rest of the week devoted to crappy comedies.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I wonder about that too. It went over my head.

Mine too.

They definately made it complicated.

Big Snarf · 02-15-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I shall never acknowledge the usurper to the throne!

Doubt panthro will either and panthro like brutus will give tygra the julius caesar treatment

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:45 PM

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Doubt panthro will either and panthro like brutus will give tygra the julius caesar treatment

Hey, Tygra LoTC.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I hated what they did to AS, it was great having anime on 7 days s week. Now all we have is anime on Saturday night, with the rest of the week devoted to crappy comedies.

The comedies are just so cheap. I have some friends that love them though. I hate them.

Big Snarf · 02-15-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Cheetara usurped, tygra the LoTC just went along with it.

Maybe this was in Claudis's will. Jaga gave it to cheetara to carry it out. The Thunderians would be happy.

In claudis will tygra was given the job of being lion-o royal wiper thats why tygra desperately didn't want lion-o to be king

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Doubt panthro will either and panthro like brutus will give tygra the julius caesar treatment

Yeah, Panthro only grudgingly accepted Lion-o only after he saw him using the swords power, I doubt he'll accept Tygra who will never be able to use it to its full potential.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

In claudis will tygra was given the job of being lion-o royal wiper thats why tygra desperately didn't want lion-o to be king

So now lion-o is the wiper?

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

So now lion-o is the wiper?

And with that, we know what Lion-o's final degradation will be.

Big Snarf · 02-15-2012, 03:51 PM

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Yeah at least they don't hide their motives, I wonder how Cheetara will even be able to keep her job as a cleric after this debacle? Lion-o should demoted her and ask Jaga's ghost to train the kittens as new clerics.

Pumyra was almost as fast as cheetara in the OS hmmm i wonder ???

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

In claudis will tygra was given the job of being lion-o royal wiper thats why tygra desperately didn't want lion-o to be king

Now Lion-o must truly defeat Tygra at all cost!

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yeah, Panthro only grudgingly accepted Lion-o only after he saw him using the swords power, I doubt he'll accept Tygra who will never be able to use it to its full potential.

That will be interesting how that plays out.

How long will lion-o be gone?

This is a good chance to show more of the characters when they deal with lion-o being gone. If they don't show this, then I am lost on what they are trying to develop as in characters.

Big Snarf · 02-15-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Does Mummra breathe?

I would think he does he is still alive in a manner of speaking

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:53 PM

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And with that, we know what Lion-o's final degradation will be.

Well we know Tygra wrote this rebot.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Pumyra was almost as fast as cheetara in the OS hmmm i wonder ???

I just hope we get to see a cat fight.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:54 PM

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Pumyra was almost as fast as cheetara in the OS hmmm i wonder ???

That would work. Lion-o can boot Cheetara from the group, and replace her with Pumyra as cleric.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Pumyra was almost as fast as cheetara in the OS hmmm i wonder ???

Balgus brought up the idea of the kids becoming cleric under cheetara, I thought that was a good idea.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Well we know Tygra wrote this rebot.

I bet he wrote those comics too.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

That would work. Lion-o can boot Cheetara from the group, and replace her with Pumyra as cleric.

Now you are going to deal with the Bengali fan group.

Big Snarf · 02-15-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamofEternia

i think in terms of L/C, the romance aspect is likely dead. it was terribly written and knowing these writers, they will make the characters move on so fast that the triangle would seem like it never happened. Cheetara's character isn't really likeable in my eyes anymore for the fact that she as wise as they say she is, didn't realize the damage she was doing to both brothers. after these events on and off the astral plane, we kind of see where her loyalty lies which is the SoO and not her king. when i read the spoilers for the death of liono in the upcoming episodes, it got me thinking about the role of the clerics. they are supposed to be the bodyguards to their king and if circumstances shows itself, give their life for their king. liono dying means that she didn't do her job as a cleric. i hate to feel that im once again ranting about a kids show but the writing is still awful and the most of the characters are not likeable in my eyes.

Its not ranting if its a justified complaint

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I bet he wrote those comics too.

They rejected his comics, so he tried to make it a little lighter.

He let the cat out of the bag when he said I like watching that back too.

I like looking at the person I am with backside too, but she would kill me if I said that around people. I would get smacked.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

That will be interesting how that plays out.

How long will lion-o be gone?

This is a good chance to show more of the characters when they deal with lion-o being gone. If they don't show this, then I am lost on what they are trying to develop as in characters.

The story would only have any point if we get to see things play out for a while. But once again, its hard to predict what these writers will do.

Big Snarf · 02-15-2012, 04:01 PM

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An excellent point. How can they keep this triangle going when Cheetara has already chosen Tygra? Are they going to drag Lion-o down further and have hum stalk Cheetara? Or will he just hopelessly pine away for her while he watches het kiss his brother?

Unless tygra actually has eyes for lion-o

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

The story would only have any point if we get to see things play out for a while. But once again, its hard to predict what these writers will do.

Even if he comes back at the end of 16, we could see something.

It is hard to predict.

L08e16o · 02-15-2012, 04:03 PM

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Unless tygra actually has eyes for lion-o

Lets not go there.

I hate to say this, but that ship would be more popular.

In Naruto, Naruto and Sasuke ship is the biggest.

stormbringer · 02-15-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

They rejected his comics, so he tried to make it a little lighter.

He let the cat out of the bag when he said I like watching that back too.

I like looking at the person I am with backside too, but she would kill me if I said that around people. I would get smacked.

I'm still shocked by that line. I mean in comics it would be one thing, still totally disrespectful, but since comics aim at an older audience they can get away with more than a cartoon parents would let their kids watch. All the writers showed with that line is, that Cheetara is the woman that chooses jerks over nice guys.

02-15-2012, 03:14 PM	#6513
Balgus82 Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,267	Quote: Originally Posted by AdamofEternia what you are saying makes a lot sense but they are just assumptions. if the writers don't convey this to us about her character, we viewers will constantly be in a state of confusion over this matter. we really need a few episodes dedicated to cheetara to better understand her. i don't mean to sound like a hater but im not really liking this version of cheetara. also must liono always be the one to learn these life lessons because it might just be me but the other thundercats aren't perfect either. they have each to me shown their flaws and i believe they need to also learn a few lessons in life as well. lots of things everyone is talking about now are assumptions. heck thinking Cheetara had any interest in Lion-O in the first place was an assumption because she definitely never said she was. Everyone just assumed she did because of how things looked, just like Lion-O did. I'm just trying to come up with the most logical conclusion I can think of with the information I've been given. (i.e. if a girl kisses a guy she has no interest in on the cheek then a kiss on the cheek doesn't mean she's interested). I totally agree the other characters need to be fleshed out and learn lessons as well. That's the one thing that's really been missing from the show. It's a little too Lion-O centric. Supporting characters need to be fleshed out too. Last edited by Balgus82; 02-15-2012 at 03:17 PM..

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L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by Balgus82 The part where I said Lion-O still likes her? Of course he does. If he didn't he wouldn't care if she was with Tygra. I know that. I am just saying if the spirit cheetara was just there to show he likes her, that is lame. Everyone know this. This is just rubbing it in my face as a L/C fan. If the spirit cheetara kissing or whispering in his ear is just showing his desire, then that makes him look like a loser. Why would he look shocked when he likes her. Last edited by L08e16o; 02-15-2012 at 03:49 PM..