Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

And you know what they say about the first love.

I know most people can't get that person out of their head.

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

You're right. If we had E14, then this thread could rest.

Shows you how many people are disappointed in E13.

You know if Episode 14 and beyond indeed go Lion-O/Cheetara or at least a triangle like before with her never really choosing either brothers but the Lion-O/Cheetara moments continues, I will archive this VERY LOOOOOOOOONG discussions thread

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I know most people can't get that person out of their head.

Exactly, that will make Lion-O try harder for her.

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

claudis said to lion-o "the sword is ready but you are not".

Exactly, that's conditional. Lion-O is not yet ready but exactly because of what
we don't know. anyway Cheetara will not ignore him, otherwise she will just stirs up the pot like her voice actress said, she's not like that.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Everyone will know whats wrong not just her "if the ep13 ending is indeed real". Her conflict could be love or her job. Often duty requires sacrifice so the choice is hers to make again. Lion-o doesn't need her for the sword to work as claudis said to lion-o "the sword is ready but you are not". The sword has always work it was that lion-o couldn't see the bigger picture or what was right in front of him and her advise to him hasn't been that good up to now

I don't think lion-o has totally mastered the sword.

I just can't see how she loves him, if she does, that is bad writing.

Her advise has been very personal.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Exactly, that will make Lion-O try harder for her.

I don't think he would want to lose that. I think he didn't care about the crown, but cheetara is different.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Exactly, that's conditional. Lion-O is not yet ready but exactly because of what
we don't know. anyway Cheetara will not ignore him, otherwise she will just stirs up the pot like her voice actress said, she's not like that.

E14 should show us what she chose along time ago.

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I don't think he would want to lose that. I think he didn't care about the crown, but cheetara is different.

Cheetara is a very personal matter to him. completely different then the crown.

stormbringer · 01-02-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

E14 should show us what she chose along time ago.

Now if only they would air the thing already.

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Now if only they would air the thing already.

Maybe this friday we will get some info on the airdate, keep your fingers crossed

stormbringer · 01-02-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

E14 should show us what she chose along time ago.

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Cheetara is a very personal matter to him. completely different then the crown.

I'm not sure Lion-o ever wanted the crown, I think that was Tygras desire. If Tygra was eligible to be king Lion-o would probably have been content to move on with his life. Getting the kingship has been nothing but trouble for Lion-o.

stormbringer · 01-02-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Maybe this friday we will get some info on the airdate, keep your fingers crossed

Here's hoping!

Big Snarf · 01-02-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Exactly, that's conditional. Lion-O is not yet ready but exactly because of what
we don't know. anyway Cheetara will not ignore him, otherwise she will just stirs up the pot like her voice actress said, she's not like that.

Claudis meant that lion-o needed to get his priorities right and since the sword chose him it is ready to obey him when used correctly. Its not a matter of her ignoring him but that he may ignore her

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I'm not sure Lion-o ever wanted the crown, I think that was Tygras desire. If Tygra was eligible to be king Lion-o would probably have been content to move on with his life. Getting the kingship has been nothing but trouble for Lion-o.

Agreed.

Big Snarf · 01-02-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I don't think lion-o has totally mastered the sword.

I just can't see how she loves him, if she does, that is bad writing.

Her advise has been very personal.

I don't think he has mastered the sword as of yet but he has surpassed the level claudis reached with it and he might be the 1st to be able to use the sight beyond sight. Yes that would bad writing indeed if thats the story with T/C. To me she gives support more than advice and the lilte advise she gives isn't very good

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Claudis meant that lion-o needed to get his priorities right and since the sword chose him it is ready to obey him when used correctly. Its not a matter of her ignoring him but that he may ignore her

I know the SoO/Cheetara/Lion-O connections may or may not be there that's why all my basic analysis did not included that, but only Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra as characters in the triangle.

IIt all depends on what scenario they will put Lion-O/Cheetara in. But in the end it's unavoidable, both of them will know. Espcially if Lion-O is mortally wounded, since he can do nothing but lying down and Cheetara nursing him

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

I don't think he has mastered the sword as of yet but he has surpassed the level claudis reached with it and he might be the 1st to be able to use the sight beyond sight. Yes that would bad writing indeed if thats the story with T/C. To me she gives support more than advice and the lilte advise she gives isn't very good

I think Legacy was a clear link how L/C will play out.

I think lion-o is almost reincarnation of Leo. I think it is his heart that allows him to use the sword the way he can. He cares about all people. He showed mercy to the lizards, his father would not.

You're right, she has mostly been support. He needed it to get to where he is at. Now everything has be for nothing.

Big Snarf · 01-02-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Agreed.

Maybe tygra is angry at lion-o because when lion-o becomes king tygra will be reduced to being his royal wiper

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I think Legacy was a clear link how L/C will play out.

I think lion-o is almost reincarnation of Leo. I think it is his heart that allows him to use the sword the way he can. He cares about all people. He showed mercy to the lizards, his father would not.

You're right, she has mostly been support. He needed it to get to where he is at. Now everything has be for nothing.

that's one of the reason Lion-O needed her a lot more then Tygra.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

I don't think he has mastered the sword as of yet but he has surpassed the level claudis reached with it and he might be the 1st to be able to use the sight beyond sight. Yes that would bad writing indeed if thats the story with T/C. To me she gives support more than advice and the lilte advise she gives isn't very good

What about cheetara's glowing eyes?

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 09:29 PM

What if Pumyra other than the possiblity that she's bethored to Tygra as L08e16o said, that she was in fact one of Tygra's many first loves

as Tygra is a player.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Maybe tygra is angry at lion-o because when lion-o becomes king tygra will be reduced to being his royal wiper

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

What about cheetara's glowing eyes?

And that epiosoe cleary focuses on Cheetara helping Lion-O so that his "sword" can work propperly

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

that's one of the reason Lion-O needed her a lot more then Tygra.

Agreed.

I still think she would not support him in the way she did, if she was interested tygra.

In legacy, the female cat was not so much hands on.

Cheetara could've of just helped lion-o and then showed interest in tygra, but she didn't.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

And that epiosoe cleary focuses on Cheetara helping Lion-O so that his "sword" can work propperly

He didn't need any pills.

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

He didn't need any pills.

Duh

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

What if Pumyra other than the possiblity that she's bethored to Tygra as L08e16o said, that she was in fact one of Tygra's first love

as Tygra is a player.

I just can't see her and lion-o, they would not have enough time to develop it.

stormbringer · 01-02-2012, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

He didn't need any pills.

Way to go Lion-o!

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I just can't see her and lion-o, they would not have enough time to develop it.

Unless they will do another rush job with Tygra/Pumyra

stormbringer · 01-02-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

He didn't need any pills.

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Maybe tygra is angry at lion-o because when lion-o becomes king tygra will be reduced to being his royal wiper

Maybe now would be a good time for Tygra to start showing Lion-o some respect !

Big Snarf · 01-02-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

What if Pumyra other than the possiblity that she's bethored to Tygra as L08e16o said, that she was in fact one of Tygra's first love

as Tygra is a player.

I doubt tygra was a player when he wasn't busy brown nosing grune he was busy studying and learning to probably become a general.

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

I doubt tygra was a player when he wasn't busy brown nosing grune he was busy studying and learning to probably become a general.

I know, no real hard evidence on Tygra being a player. I am just joking around.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Unless they will do another rush job with Tygra/Pumyra

They don't need the screen time with T/P.

T/C was over a flower, they could make T/P more.

stormbringer · 01-02-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Unless they will do another rush job with Tygra/Pumyra

Yep I can see it now, Pumyra pulled a thorn out of Tygras paw a decade ago, and he's loved her ever since!

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

I doubt tygra was a player when he wasn't busy brown nosing grune he was busy studying and learning to probably become a general.

But remember grune was at war and on missions like the book of omens. What filled that time slot.

Tygra looked very relax when he winked at cheetara.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yep I can see it now, Pumyra pulled a thorn out of Tygras paw a decade ago, and he's loved her ever since!

That is too rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That made me laugh.

Tygra kept the thorn in his ankle band.

Big Snarf · 01-02-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I think Legacy was a clear link how L/C will play out.

I think lion-o is almost reincarnation of Leo. I think it is his heart that allows him to use the sword the way he can. He cares about all people. He showed mercy to the lizards, his father would not.

You're right, she has mostly been support. He needed it to get to where he is at. Now everything has be for nothing.

Everything hasn't been for nothing if lion-o is at the level he is. Legacy may play out but between brothers almost played out the way old friends did

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Everything hasn't been for nothing if lion-o is at the level he is. Legacy may play out but between brothers almost played out the way old friends did

between brothers almost played out the way old friends did??

Are you talking about Grune and Panthero or Leo and Tygrus?

Also, what made him at that level. Was it his heart or head? I think lion-o is driven more by his heart.

cmangund · 01-02-2012, 09:56 PM

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Yep I can see it now, Pumyra pulled a thorn out of Tygras paw a decade ago, and he's loved her ever since!

Tygra is the type to "rush" everything it seems, love matters mainly.

Balgus82 · 01-02-2012, 10:02 PM

Speaking of Legacy, it's one of the reasons I'm more for T/C than L/C.

If Lion-O really cares for Cheetara so much what the heck was he doing making out with another cat in the Book of Omens?

Big Snarf · 01-02-2012, 10:02 PM

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What about cheetara's glowing eyes?

They keep saying that the sword is the source of the thundercats power and maybe she knows how to tap into it

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 10:03 PM

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Speaking of Legacy, it's one of the reasons I'm more for T/C than L/C.

If Lion-O really cares for Cheetara so much what the heck was he doing making out with another cat in the Book of Omens?

That was leo, not really him.

He CBs leo, he might not exist.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

They keep saying that the sword is the source of the thundercats power and maybe she knows how to tap into it

In the OS, all their eyes lit up. I think there is more to it.

Balgus82 · 01-02-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

That was leo, not really him.

He CBs leo, he might not exist.

Lion-O was in full control in the book of omens. he wasn't sent to the past, he was reliving a recording of the past.

think it was Leo who said "well at least I got a girlfriend"?

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Tygra is the type to "rush" everything it seems, love matters mainly.

T/B/P triangle would be great.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

Lion-O was in full control in the book of omens.

think it was Leo who said "well at least I got a girlfriend"?

The women cat thougth it was leo, not lion-o. It wasn't real either.

I know that was lion-o who said that, but I thougt that was place there by the writers for the L/C angle.

Lion-o had to do everything leo did to be worthy of the BoO so it would not be closed to him.

Lion-o was depending on her and she was giving him support.

stormbringer · 01-02-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Unless they will do another rush job with Tygra/Pumyra

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

In the OS, all their eyes lit up. I think there is more to it.

Yeah the swords abilities seem to differ somewhat than in the OS.

L08e16o · 01-02-2012, 10:10 PM

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Yeah the swords abilities seem to differ somewhat than in the OS.

Agreed.

Any time he used the sword it would make all the cats eyes glow.

Balgus82 · 01-02-2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

The women cat thougth it was leo, not lion-o. It wasn't real either.

I know that was lion-o who said that, but I thougt that was place there by the writers for the L/C angle.

I know she thought it was Leo. I'm not debating what she thought. Lion-O knows he's not Leo. it wasn't real, so why couldn't he have pulled away? I'm pretty sure making out with her wasn't part of Jaga's test.

I mean you guys keep calling Tygra a player. But we've only seen Tygra be interested in Cheetara. we haven't seen him with any other women.

If it was Tygra that had made out with another woman ya'll would be all over him, but since it's Lion-O you're coming up with excuses.

Big Snarf · 01-02-2012, 10:11 PM

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But remember grune was at war and on missions like the book of omens. What filled that time slot.

Tygra looked very relax when he winked at cheetara.

Studying with claudis and looking at his grune posters on his wall

01-02-2012, 09:01 PM	#2561
stormbringer Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,504	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o E14 should show us what she chose along time ago. Quote: Originally Posted by cmangund Cheetara is a very personal matter to him. completely different then the crown. I'm not sure Lion-o ever wanted the crown, I think that was Tygras desire. If Tygra was eligible to be king Lion-o would probably have been content to move on with his life. Getting the kingship has been nothing but trouble for Lion-o. Last edited by stormbringer; 01-02-2012 at 09:10 PM..

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cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	What if Pumyra other than the possiblity that she's bethored to Tygra as L08e16o said, that she was in fact one of Tygra's many first loves as Tygra is a player. Last edited by cmangund; 01-02-2012 at 09:37 PM..

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L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by stormbringer Yep I can see it now, Pumyra pulled a thorn out of Tygras paw a decade ago, and he's loved her ever since! That is too rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That made me laugh. Tygra kept the thorn in his ankle band. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-02-2012 at 09:50 PM..

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L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by Big Snarf Everything hasn't been for nothing if lion-o is at the level he is. Legacy may play out but between brothers almost played out the way old friends did between brothers almost played out the way old friends did?? Are you talking about Grune and Panthero or Leo and Tygrus? Also, what made him at that level. Was it his heart or head? I think lion-o is driven more by his heart. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-02-2012 at 09:57 PM..

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L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by Balgus82 Lion-O was in full control in the book of omens. think it was Leo who said "well at least I got a girlfriend"? The women cat thougth it was leo, not lion-o. It wasn't real either. I know that was lion-o who said that, but I thougt that was place there by the writers for the L/C angle. Lion-o had to do everything leo did to be worthy of the BoO so it would not be closed to him. Lion-o was depending on her and she was giving him support. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-02-2012 at 10:11 PM..