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I just said that he was a bit unprofessional. I did not call for disciplinary actions to be taken against him or anything along those lines. I am sympathetic and I hope the accident was not serious and that he is fine. However, as Art Director, he has a prominent role with the show and a certain level of professionalism may be expected of him. This is now the second time he has handled criticism badly by making it very personal when he should have ignored the comments. Forgiving someone does not mean forgetting that they made a mistake in the first place. |
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Is DN such a person? I don't know. I do know that he has blown his top at a fan at least twice as indicated in this thread, so unless he had 2 separate accidents on those days, it does indicate he is the type who gets angry when criticised. I have no idea if he said 'oh, it was cause i was stressed cause of so-so reason' for the Pumyra incident or not. Can someone enlighten me? |
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It has nothing to do with being able to forgive Dan for exchanging words with a disgruntled fan. |
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This one and the ambush on the mountain path were planned attacks set by the enemies which both worked because the main factor was an angry Lion-O leading the group into them. |
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Odd, I don't see anywhere I say "CreepySariFan's arguments are a fallacy" in any of my previous posts so I'm neither right nor wrong in that regard. I do agree with another person that the excuse for his behavior presented by a number of people doesn't hold water. Don't forget, just because you feel he deserves sympathy doesn't mean other will as well. Sympathy does, afterall, require certain conditions be met: attention to a subject, believing that a person (or group) is in a state of need, and the characteristics of a given situation. (to cite Wikipedia) Not everyone will meet these conditions and people will be apathetic to certain things. The wreck might justify his actions to you but not to others. It's all part of being human. Being humans, we don't all have to think alike and feel alike. "This one time" Ah, if only it had been one time. Would you like me to post some more of his outbursts? I've got a good one where a person comments on Cheetara's hip design and the reaction it recieves.....well, let's just say it gives the recent tsunami/earthquake in Japan a run for the money. Where do I say his comments should result in his career ending? I can count at least three others who have passed off or backed the "don't blame him, blame the car wreck" excuse. My comment was a general reply and not exclusivly towards you. If I could offer some advice; you might want to look into scheduling an eye exam because twice now you've claimed I said things I never did. There is a possibility you might require corrective lenses. Best to catch that kind of thing early on. |
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"His opinion on what makes a woman a woman is irrelevant and worthless. He is not a woman, he does not identify as a woman" I understood your point that because a man is not a woman, a man's opinion on what makes a woman a woman is irrelevant and worthless. I then countered your point with one of my own citing the fact that the opinion of male art critics (to use one example out of many) is often considered quite worthwhile and relevant. "I am not the only woman who is sick of hearing about breast size, and about how the perfect figure must be a replica of Jessica Beil or Halle Berry's figure." I understood your point that certain women don't like hearing that other people find other women attractive and I countered it with an age old saying that rings true to this day. "once again, HE doesn't have breast" I understood your point that you obviously didn't pay attention when human anatomy was taught in school and I provided an educational explanation of the fact that men do in fact, have breasts. Most of your point revolved around gender exclusion - that because a man is a man, he has no place to comment on how a woman looks. Like most of society, I simply disagreed with you. The rest of your point dealt with the anatomically incorrect idea that men lacked breasts. I simply tried to fill in an education gap you seemed to have. |
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While I still feel that Cheetara's surrendering was a huge mistake that could have cost all the Cats dearly had it not been for Panthro's surprise visit, I concede that in the case you brought up, Lion-O's emotions did get the better of him and he did fly off the handle which could have ended very badly. |
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If you are going to talk the talk, you better walk the walk. That is what lion-o was doing. Tygra didn't want to help the lizards. |
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Good point about Kaynar and Addicus. It could be argued that because Lion-o got them into the fight, he should bear the burden of responsibility. But It can also be argued that there was still the potential for victory had Cheetara not surrendered and in doing so revealing her relationship with Tygra to the enemy thus providing them a tactical advantage in combat so she should shoulder the burden. It all depends on how it's looked at. |
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It could be debated that if Lion-O hadn't been belittled and mocked by the entire group, he wouldn't have been angry runnin up that road, runnin up that hill, runnin up that build-woah, sorry, watched a warehouse 13 marathon and now the song's stuck in my head. Anyway, if the others hadn't gotten onto his case, he wouldn't have been all ruffled fur. It could also be debated that the canyon moment was going to happen no matter what due to the repercussions of that (IMO) poorly done Book 1 finale and that any attempt to dissaude him was going to end badly. It could also be debated that Lion-O didn't know it was a trap either and assumed the two with him were competent enough in battle to handle lizards as they had done before. Still, you present some good opinions. |
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Don't get me started on why the Metalbenders haven't done something with their armor like modern day electrical linemen. And if the situation arose? Mix Water and Earthbending to make mud, cover every viewport on those tanks and they're running blind. Not something availble in this episode, but if I don't see it happening then that's more fuel for me. |
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Funny that it only sounds that way isn't it? |
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Yes, I've seen Voltron Force. I tolerated a whole 13 episodes in hopes that things would get better. I don't think I'll ever get over that robot bomb they stopped with MAGIC BRICKS. NOPE! |
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I ‘attacked’ your (weak) argument not you or DN. Oh ffs, saying he could have handled it better or ignored the comments or that he was unprofessional does not constitute an ‘attack.’ Lay off the exaggeration and sensationalist language, will you? |
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Thanks. if you're gonna do something, you might as well try your best. You do a bang up job at ignorance so give yourself a high-five. Sorry but all my secrets are clean and big. :D |
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Man, someone's losing this shit flinging contest. |
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No, I told you that you can call me whatever you want if it'll help you sleep in your crib at night. Prior to that I said I couldn't be as much of a jerk as Danny if the Federal government funded the try. You replyed with: "But you really are trying so hard and having so much success!" So I thanked you and then used your deplorable attempt at an insult to segue into highlighting your displayed ignorance. Do you really have this much trouble with reading comprehension? Talk about the failures of No Child Left Behind. I feel like we need to get you a bouncing ball to follow. Thanks for the laughs but unless you can come up with something better than what you've got, you're past the point of being bromidic. |
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What is it about reboots in that most of the time, they either really hurt the series or ruin it all together? |
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I got everything I wanted out of you. |
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If you produce a continuation of an old show, then you're seriously alienating potential new fans. I hope Mysterious Cities of Gold doesn't get hit hard by this. So, you try and find a fine balance with the talent available, or you let your expensive franchise rot. |
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From what I've read, you're the one who has been twisting words and making things up. You tried to goad and ended up failing. Now you are just acting childish. Sorry if you feel like you are being ganged up on but in this instance, you are the one in the wrong. I hope you are mature enough to realize this and move on. |
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Does someone want to grab me when we actually start talking about this episode? I've been dying to talk about it (some of the forums seem to be pretty sidetracked with arguments that I'd rather stay out of) and or better yet since that doesn't seem to be happening anytime soon, private message me anyone who wants to talk Birth of the Blades I'll be lurking!
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I think what happened to the Thundercats reboot is the same thing that happened to the DC comic mini-series - too much personal spin and changes resulted in many of the OS fans simply not being able to get behind the new take. In many ways, the same thing happened to shows like Voltron Force, Loonatics Unleashed, Speed Racer: TNG, G.I. Joe, and, to an extent He-Man. So much of an "original take" was put on them, what the series was at its core was lost. |
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IMO, those same people who initially were turned off by the show at the beginning, might like it better after a couple more seasons (if it continues that long). But that's just my personal take on it. |
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It's sorta like walking into a group very late and when they've finished discussing schoolwork and are just talking random stuff. |
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Personally, I don't put much stock into the crew interviews and such. I follow the mantra of trust episodes, not interviews. All to often, what is said and what is shown are quite different. I get the feeling that most of the time, the crew just tells people what they figure they'll want to hear. Case in point, I remember hearing in an interview that the DC comic would not be used as reference but from watching the cartoon, it is glaringly obvious that the TC crew are drawing heavily on the comics. In a way, I see the show as moving more away from the OS as it progresses. You might be right about those who were put off at the beginning but it seems that as the show progresses, more and more OS fans (I've seen them referred to as ThunderDads lol) put down the remote and walked away. I'm not saying it's a stone cold fact, just my observation based on reading comments on variuos boards, looking at episode ratings, and general chat. |
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