Thundercats canceled?

[Ruination04]

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Originally Posted by xander88

It's dated back to march so I think they mean the rest of the current season.

That's what it looks like.

[Sportsandstuff]

I really hope the show survives

[Lioconvoy]

It won't if we don't act! Go to the main forum, and click on the contact info for CN, and send them a letter!

[dpcphoto]

Below is the link posted by Lioconvoy... Everyone needs to send CN their thoughts

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[Sirokos2000]

Hey Brothers... Thundercats is a WORLDWIDE PHENOMENO with a Huge community of Fans since the early 80s! LETS PROVE OUR POWER by sending CN our thoughts! .... ACT TODAY!

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[Sportsandstuff]

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Originally Posted by Lioconvoy

It won't if we don't act! Go to the main forum, and click on the contact info for CN, and send them a letter!

I did

[nitewing73]

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Originally Posted by Lioconvoy

It won't if we don't act! Go to the main forum, and click on the contact info for CN, and send them a letter!

Just did. Hope the campaign works! It's one of the few shows that my wife and two kids watch with me and enjoy.

[BB Shockwave]

I am sorry, but where do all you doomsayers get your info about the show's cancellation? There is NOTHING to indicate it. The show is going strong, and CN just started exporting it worldwide, Hungarian CN has just started airing it dubbed. Obviously they'd not invest into dubbing a show unless it would go on for quite some time. Short shows never make it to my country.

[Cat's Pajamas]

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Originally Posted by BB Shockwave

I am sorry, but where do all you doomsayers get your info about the show's cancellation? There is NOTHING to indicate it. The show is going strong, and CN just started exporting it worldwide, Hungarian CN has just started airing it dubbed. Obviously they'd not invest into dubbing a show unless it would go on for quite some time. Short shows never make it to my country.

The airing has been spotty, CN likes to dump shows at the drop of a hat, and the toy line has tanked. I don't think it's "doomsaying" to reach out to the network and let them know how much we care about the show.

There was a lot of complaining that those of us who were worried about the future of the toy line were being "negative, pessimistic," and "wanted the line to fail." Now you're calling people who are taking precautions and reaching out to CN "doomsayers." This community can be pretty awful at encouraging its members to help save a floundering property we all care about.

[fuukonomiko]

Save the Thundercats! My friend Eclipse found this on tumblr:

Save Thundercats!

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by fuukonomiko

Save the Thundercats! My friend Eclipse found this on tumblr:

Save Thundercats!

Interesting seeing Marisha Ray as Tygra seeing how she's Matthew Mercer's girlfriend. lol

That fact also really makes me think the show is in trouble though... :/

[AlexofThundera]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

That fact also really makes me think the show is in trouble though... :/

My thoughts exactly.

[L08e16o]

If this show is killed, I hope the blame is just not on CN. It needs to be on MJ too. This is not his only show that has had the second season killed.

Shouldn't have wrote his T fan fic.

[BB Shockwave]

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Originally Posted by Cat's Pajamas

The airing has been spotty, CN likes to dump shows at the drop of a hat, and the toy line has tanked. I don't think it's "doomsaying" to reach out to the network and let them know how much we care about the show.

There was a lot of complaining that those of us who were worried about the future of the toy line were being "negative, pessimistic," and "wanted the line to fail." Now you're calling people who are taking precautions and reaching out to CN "doomsayers." This community can be pretty awful at encouraging its members to help save a floundering property we all care about.

The same thing happened with Transformers Animated - they toys were released much later then the cartoon, CN moved the series to a bad airing date (because Hasbro was starting the Hub, their own channel), and generally a lot of bad luck. But you know what, the show was not cancelled because of this... The reception was very positive and Hasbro would have continued the show, if not for the fact that it was a joint venture with CN, and they (as Hasbro became a competitor with the launch of the Hub) simply did not give their approval.

Thundercats has no such problems, the ratings are fine, the show is acclaimed by critics as far as I have seen, and it's one of CN's new "big hits" alongside Young Justice and Green Lantern. They'd be crazy to cancel it.

And as for CN not releasing any official word, does not surprise me. They don't tend to communicate well with fans. Or at all. Hasbro is much better in this regard, just check the shout-outs to the MLP FiM fanbase on the Hub.

That's why I feel it is premature to start petitions and whatnot (besides, what do those ever accomplish? Uwe Boll is still making movies... ) - I'd be all for this if we were in a situation like with Avengers, Earth's Mightiest Heroes, where we do have solid fact that the show is gonna get cancelled. (Curse you, Jeph Loeb!) But this is hardly the case.

[tallgeeseblue]

What if cartoon network either-

reran the show(first season over the summer.)
or
took a break and reran it starting in the fall no breaks

the toyline then gets relaunched along with merch. if merchandise is running it this way kids can get their stuff for back to school backpacks lunch boxes etc. which would drive sales/viewership (although little late to start making these things for the fall)

then the second true season would then pick up either in spring of 13 or fall of 13 giving plenty of lead time for writing or a posibly a wrap up straight to DVD and time to sync any more lines of merch.

because while spending all this money on making eps is great profitwise they need a chance to show them more than once. to make it worthwhile

[AlexofThundera]

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Originally Posted by tallgeeseblue

What if cartoon network either-

reran the show(first season over the summer.)
or
took a break and reran it starting in the fall no breaks

the toyline then gets relaunched along with merch. if merchandise is running it this way kids can get their stuff for back to school backpacks lunch boxes etc. which would drive sales/viewership (although little late to start making these things for the fall)

then the second true season would then pick up either in spring of 13 or fall of 13 giving plenty of lead time for writing or a posibly a wrap up straight to DVD and time to sync any more lines of merch.

because while spending all this money on making eps is great profitwise they need a chance to show them more than once. to make it worthwhile

This is something I have thought about though I don't believe they would re-release wave 1 but release wave 2 (or 3) of the toys. A lot of children who never watched the show on Fridays missed out on the first 13 episodes and rerunning it from the start may allow them to "start from scratch" getting more kids interested and buying merch.

[Balgus82]

they really do need to start airing reruns of the show. Every kid isn't going to be up at 9am Saturday and Sunday to watch it, and we have more than enough episodes now to air it on weekday afternoons for a while.

[Dr Kain]

Pixel Dan published this interesting article for those of you who do not follow him:
What does the future hold for ThunderCats? | Pixel-Dan.com: For the Love of Toys!

[monothingie]

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Originally Posted by tallgeeseblue

What if cartoon network either-

reran the show(first season over the summer.)
or
took a break and reran it starting in the fall no breaks

the toyline then gets relaunched along with merch. if merchandise is running it this way kids can get their stuff for back to school backpacks lunch boxes etc. which would drive sales/viewership (although little late to start making these things for the fall)

then the second true season would then pick up either in spring of 13 or fall of 13 giving plenty of lead time for writing or a posibly a wrap up straight to DVD and time to sync any more lines of merch.

because while spending all this money on making eps is great profitwise they need a chance to show them more than once. to make it worthwhile

The most concerning thing here is that CN has simply done a dump of all 13 "season 2" episodes with out interruption. It seems as though CN is simply treating TC as a sunk cost and purging everything that has already in the can to make room for something else. (a clearance sale if you will) I don't recall any other series on the air now (that are being renewed) being handled the same way. If you see that in three weeks TC is still on the schedule in reruns then that is good sign for the show coming back. But if you see the Ben 10 hour, it's done.

[adssse]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Pixel Dan published this interesting article for those of you who do not follow him:
What does the future hold for ThunderCats? | Pixel-Dan.com: For the Love of Toys!

Thanks for the link. I would have missed this otherwise...

[thunderbee]

This does not look good... WHISKERS!!! Page can not be found... On BANDAI SITE!
Meet the all new ThunderCats - ThunderCats

[thunderbee]

Here is the image:

http://i48.tinypic.com/f2wow.jpg

Maybe they are updating with NEW pics... RIGHT?

[thunderbee]

[AlexofThundera]

Great article by Pixel Dan and Four Horsemen doing Thundercats? Yes Please!!

*All links on Bandai's site related to Thundercats leads to that same message.

[BB Shockwave]

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Originally Posted by monothingie

The most concerning thing here is that CN has simply done a dump of all 13 "season 2" episodes with out interruption. It seems as though CN is simply treating TC as a sunk cost and purging everything that has already in the can to make room for something else. (a clearance sale if you will) I don't recall any other series on the air now (that are being renewed) being handled the same way. If you see that in three weeks TC is still on the schedule in reruns then that is good sign for the show coming back. But if you see the Ben 10 hour, it's done.

CN is doing that to Young Justice, Green Lantern TAS and Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes too. One new episode every week, every saturday. Don't see what's so wrong with that. Same way shows used to be aired when I was a kid in the eighties, and I much prefer that. Most kids are at home and watching TV in saturday morning, all over the world. This is the perfect slot.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by BB Shockwave

CN is doing that to Young Justice, Green Lantern TAS and Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes too. One new episode every week, every saturday. Don't see what's so wrong with that. Same way shows used to be aired when I was a kid in the eighties, and I much prefer that. Most kids are at home and watching TV in saturday morning, all over the world. This is the perfect slot.

80s??

I watched TCats, Voltron, Silver hawk, GI Joe, Transformers, and a bunch of cartoons on week days. Where have you been.

This show is going on the back burner and that says a lot.

CN moved it to Saturday to get more interest in the show and it didn't.

I don't see a bright future for this show.

[Tracer]

The Status Of The ThunderCats Line - Thundercats - ToyNewsI.com

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Ever since Toy Fair in February when Bandai failed to show any new ThunderCats product for the rest of 2012, there has been a question about what the future holds for the line. As of late, a number of rumors have been popping up around the net about Bandai losing the license and how other companies like Hasbro or Mattel are looking to pick it up.

We decided to go to Bandai and find out if there is any truth to these rumors. According to them, there is not. They tell us that they are still the master toy licensee for ThunderCats. The Spring 2012 product line has rolled out here in the US and their product line is not canceled, as they are currently rolling out ThunderCats product globally in conjunction with the TV show being airing internationally.

So there you have it. As for when we might get word of new products for us in the US, that still remains somewhat a mystery as well as the status of the show on Cartoon Network. For now though, it would seem unlikely any other toy company will be getting their hands on this license any time soon.

[Lioconvoy]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

80s??

I watched TCats, Voltron, Silver hawk, GI Joe, Transformers, and a bunch of cartoons on week days. Where have you been.

This show is going on the back burner and that says a lot.

CN moved it to Saturday to get more interest in the show and it didn't.

I don't see a bright future for this show.

Bull crap it didn't. Matthew Mercer himself said at Anime Matsuri in April that since the slot change that ratings have DOUBLED.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by monothingie

The most concerning thing here is that CN has simply done a dump of all 13 "season 2" episodes with out interruption. It seems as though CN is simply treating TC as a sunk cost and purging everything that has already in the can to make room for something else. (a clearance sale if you will) I don't recall any other series on the air now (that are being renewed) being handled the same way. If you see that in three weeks TC is still on the schedule in reruns then that is good sign for the show coming back. But if you see the Ben 10 hour, it's done.

Young Justice. They aired like the last 10 episodes of Season 1 and started Season 2 the following week and it is still going non-stop.

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by Tracer

The Status Of The ThunderCats Line - Thundercats - ToyNewsI.com

Uh, Spring 2012 line? You mean the ones that came out back in Feb? That tells us nothing new. That just says the toy line is out, that does not say anything about new figures coming up.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Lioconvoy

Bull crap it didn't. Matthew Mercer himself said at Anime Matsuri in April that since the slot change that ratings have DOUBLED.

1.8/8 rating for birth of the blades is not a good rating.

I do not take the VAs and Tcrew as truth anymore. There were a lot of things said that were not true.

If the ratings are so good, then why are the kids not buying the toys since that is who the show is aimed at.

[Lioconvoy]

And here are you pulling those ratings from, exactly?

[L08e16o]

The ratings for May 19th shows that once again, Cartoon Network ranked third below Nick and Disney.

Thundercats (the Forever Bag) recieved a 1.7/8 for its target 6-11 age group.

Nielsen numbers are usually expressed by points and share. Points, the first number expressed (1.7) refers to Nielsen's assumption of how the percentage of total homes are viewing the show at the given moment when the rating is taken. So, 1.7 would mean that from Nielsen's 5,000 homes sampled, they are assuming 1.7 percent of the total homes in America. The second number (8) represents the share of total viewers - in this case it means that 8 percent of the people watching television at that moment were watching this show. 92 percent were watching something else.

The episode the week prior (Birth of Blades) rated a 1/8."

[CCDustyV]

actually judging by the numbers its been on a upswing and hasn't really dropped THAT much. Yes Spongebob will get more ratings, it's like crack for kids. compared to other Saturday Morning CN shows TC is still doing fairly well. not outstanding, but it's hanging in there.

[gjustis]

lol

The tenacious optimism is inspiring.

[CCDustyV]

if I jumped ship every time a show showed low rating eps I'd have given up on Chuck in season 1. that show survived 5 seasons with rollercoaster ratings, and it didn't have half the fanbase this show has.

[monothingie]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

The ratings for May 19th shows that once again, Cartoon Network ranked third below Nick and Disney.

Thundercats (the Forever Bag) recieved a 1.7/8 for its target 6-11 age group.

Nielsen numbers are usually expressed by points and share. Points, the first number expressed (1.7) refers to Nielsen's assumption of how the percentage of total homes are viewing the show at the given moment when the rating is taken. So, 1.7 would mean that from Nielsen's 5,000 homes sampled, they are assuming 1.7 percent of the total homes in America. The second number (8) represents the share of total viewers - in this case it means that 8 percent of the people watching television at that moment were watching this show. 92 percent were watching something else.

The episode the week prior (Birth of Blades) rated a 1/8."

You are close, but this should explain Neilson ratings.

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/rating...id=ratings_faq


So on that specific TC episode received 1.7/8 Meaning out of 115 Million homes that Neilson estimates that have TVs, 1.7% of the target demo were watching TC.

The 8 is the percentage based on actual total (no specific demo) TV viewers for the period.

So doing the math .017*115000000= 1.95 Million target demo people were watching TC for that specific episode.

Don't know if this is good or bad or neither.

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by monothingie

The most concerning thing here is that CN has simply done a dump of all 13 "season 2" episodes with out interruption. It seems as though CN is simply treating TC as a sunk cost and purging everything that has already in the can to make room for something else. (a clearance sale if you will) I don't recall any other series on the air now (that are being renewed) being handled the same way. If you see that in three weeks TC is still on the schedule in reruns then that is good sign for the show coming back. But if you see the Ben 10 hour, it's done.

If they were treating it as a sunken ship they just would've stopped airing the episodes altogether. Like they did with Generator Rex. The last couple episodes of that show still haven't aired on CN.

[Balgus82]

And the Bandai site is back up too btw.

[Balgus82]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

1.8/8 rating for birth of the blades is not a good rating.

I do not take the VAs and Tcrew as truth anymore. There were a lot of things said that were not true.

If the ratings are so good, then why are the kids not buying the toys since that is who the show is aimed at.

For CN, yes it is good ratings. That's better than what DC Nation and Ben 10 does most of the time.

[Tracer]

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Uh, Spring 2012 line? You mean the ones that came out back in Feb? That tells us nothing new. That just says the toy line is out, that does not say anything about new figures coming up.

I completely agree.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

For CN, yes it is good ratings. That's better than what DC Nation and Ben 10 does most of the time.

They will air the rest of the episodes. I think if CN was interested then they would've ordered more or show reruns.

Ben 10 is in its forth season and isn't it on other time slots.

Anything DC is usually safe. Look how many reboots of Batman there are.

This is the Tcats first reboot.

[CCDustyV]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

For CN, yes it is good ratings. That's better than what DC Nation and Ben 10 does most of the time.

looked at the ratings for all the eps of the series, the ratings have stayed rather stable which is a good thing. the pilot it 2.1, and after that it stayed between 1.5 and 1.8 and never dropping below 1.4. for saturday morning that's not bad.

[CCDustyV]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

They will air the rest of the episodes. I think if CN was interested then they would've ordered more or show reruns.

Ben 10 is in its forth season and isn't it on other time slots.

Anything DC is usually safe. Look how many reboots of Batman there are.

This is the Tcats first reboot.

CN very seldom does reruns anymore I've noticed. and I must point out, has CN EVER done anything logical?

[CCDustyV]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

1.8/8 rating for birth of the blades is not a good rating.

I do not take the VAs and Tcrew as truth anymore. There were a lot of things said that were not true.

If the ratings are so good, then why are the kids not buying the toys since that is who the show is aimed at.

kids tend to buy more video games than toys now and I have to say the TC figures do kinda suck...

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by CCDustyV

kids tend to buy more video games than toys now and I have to say the TC figures do kinda suck...

It sounded like CN was banking on the toy sales too.

I see this stuff all the time with anime or games.

I love Dynasty warriors, DW7 empires is coming out overseas, but Koei might dub it due to low sales. They will not port the game to Xbox now. The anime industry is tricky. They say animators in Japan don't make that much they depend on merchandise.

Usually the first season makes a great impression and sales well; which gets another season. TCats, I don't know. I still believe this all started with a certain episode.

I have time warner and CN has not sent any Tcats episodes since 22.

[Balgus82]

I don't see why they haven't aired this show in Japan. Not only would they merchandise the heck out of it there they'd give it an intro.

[CCDustyV]

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I don't see why they haven't aired this show in Japan. Not only would they merchandise the heck out of it there they'd give it an intro.

can already see the PVC figurines of scantily clad Cheetara and Pumyra in sexy poses...

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

The ratings for May 19th shows that once again, Cartoon Network ranked third below Nick and Disney.

Thundercats (the Forever Bag) recieved a 1.7/8 for its target 6-11 age group.

Nielsen numbers are usually expressed by points and share. Points, the first number expressed (1.7) refers to Nielsen's assumption of how the percentage of total homes are viewing the show at the given moment when the rating is taken. So, 1.7 would mean that from Nielsen's 5,000 homes sampled, they are assuming 1.7 percent of the total homes in America. The second number (8) represents the share of total viewers - in this case it means that 8 percent of the people watching television at that moment were watching this show. 92 percent were watching something else.

The episode the week prior (Birth of Blades) rated a 1/8."

How is that not good?

And what are the ratings for those who watched it that don't have Nielson boxes? How about those that DVR'd it and watched it later?

[Dr Kain]

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Originally Posted by CCDustyV

CN very seldom does reruns anymore I've noticed. and I must point out, has CN EVER done anything logical?

Wrong, the won't do reruns unless you name is Johnny Test.