Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Which is why snarf must help the Lion-O/Cheetara thing to happen, as he disrupted that very important moment in Ep4! He owes Lion-O bigtime.

When they are close next time, snarf needs to bump lion-o into her.

Balgus82 · 01-05-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Bats actually can sing in JL cartoon universe, he sang "I am blue" for Wonder Woman

in that particular episode.

And lets not forget the Music Meister episode of Brave and the Bold.

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf

Tygra succumbed to the "darkness" and mum-ra is going to have a field day with him from now on and thats the path his jealousy put him on

Do you think he will go to mummra's side for a while?

Big Snarf · 01-05-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Which evil nation, are you talking about hagar's son?

No hagar's son was his grandfather other son esau founded the edomites while jacob founded the israelites. Or maybe the tygra and lion-o might be like romulus and remus as the title "between brothers" may signify a continual theme through out the series

Big Snarf · 01-05-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

For a second I thougth you were going to say Queen's blade or seikon qwaser. :eek

also just recently watched high school of the dead

Balgus82 · 01-05-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Do you think he will go to mummra's side for a while?

I doubt it. I think he totally meant it when he said he'd never betray Lion-O. Besides he'd go off on his own before he sided with Mumm-Ra. Afterall Mumm-Ra killed his father and destroyed his city too.

Thunderandreams · 01-05-2012, 03:50 PM

Maybe do a poll on who will build Panthros arms?

Since he wont be doing it himself?

Lion-o
Tygra
Panthro with his feet and pure willpower
Berbills
Batman
A still unknown new charactor
Someone else, namely..

stormbringer · 01-05-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderandreams

Maybe do a poll on who will build Panthros arms?

Since he wont be doing it himself?

Lion-o
Tygra
Panthro with his feet and pure willpower
Berbills
Batman
A still unknown new charactor
Someone else, namely..

I'd have to go with Berbills, they have the know how, and their some of the only beings that Panthro actually likes.

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 04:37 PM

I'll just post L08e16o's question that I answered:

Why didn't he include cheetara in the prophecy?

It either because (if it was not an illusions) taking into consideration the usual facts and data:

1. Cheetara could purposely rearrange her dialogue a bit while speaking to Tygra at the beginning to soften Tygra up, preventing him doing something stupid to Lion-O (the betrayal) intentionally or not. In this case Cheetara will still be in the highest good, because if Tygra will do something stupid that might even kill or "kill" Lion-O, the Tcats will be doomed for sure. So Cheetara relized the stakes here, when anet mentiend the prophecies twice. Thus she said I did choose years ago but did not say tygra's name, because if she begin that dialogue by mentioning Lion-O's name Tygra could get cooked up again, so a bit of tactical engagement here from Cheetara while still actually wanted to say thank you to Tygra (small amount of feelings maybe there too otherwise she will just hug Tygra not giving Tygra a chance to kiss her, but that's conditional). Thus Cheetara's intention is not betrayal but can be seen as a betrayal to Lion-O. She can explain the details of her choosing after the bell rang. If she chose Lion-O and Tygra not based on feelings alone but because of the SoO too, that will also make Tygra understand easier, which is why I think the Cheetara/Lion-O/SoO connection have a high chance coming to light, it will make it alot easier for the writers without having to drag things really long and simplify things while still tieing it to the core plot the SoO, which if you look at the Lion-O/Cheetara thing progression from Ep1-Ep13 by slowly the writers connecting it with the SoO. It's a very simple deduction, if you think about it.

2. Cheetara went to Tygra using her brain (65%)rather than her heart (35%). While with Lion-o is 68% her heart speaking rather than her brain (32%) thus the truth of her choice years ago with her realizing it or not. Thus she was not included in the prophecy.

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Because if not Cheetara will go to both brothers and explain it at the same time, not like in Ep13, that's her character, she did that because there's alot more going on. mainly because of Anet's Prediction, her expression in Ep13 when anet mentioend the prediction again also strengthen that idea a bit.

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

That was awesome when he did that in the air.

Yeah Cloud's swords were really cool, but to tell you the truth I like Sephiroth more in FF7, he definetly was one of the greatest villain in FF history.

oh and I really like Sephirot's theme song "The one winged angel"

Did you play Crisis Core on PSP, really like the prequel story there. where Sephrioth was still "human" not the mad but cool villain. Not to mention Zack's sad story. Without Zack there will be no Cloud.

DarkKnight · 01-05-2012, 04:47 PM

Wats up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I'd have to go with Berbills, they have the know how, and their some of the only beings that Panthro actually likes.

And don' forget like L08e16o said, Berbils wanted to hug Panthro, how can he hug them in this state, They will not tolerate it and will immideatly design brand new arms for Panthro, extra features included.

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

Wats up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The dark knight returrns! What is the current news in Gotham?

stormbringer · 01-05-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderandreams

Maybe do a poll on who will build Panthros arms?

Since he wont be doing it himself?

Lion-o
Tygra
Panthro with his feet and pure willpower
Berbills
Batman
A still unknown new charactor
Someone else, namely..

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Originally Posted by cmangund

And don' forget like L08e16o said, Berbils wanted to hug Panthro, how can he hug them in this state, They will not tolerate it and will immideatly design brand new arms for Panthro, extra features included.

I wonder what enhancements his arms will have? Maybe missles or lasers?

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I wonder what enhancements his arms will have? Maybe missles or lasers?

Maybe a portable candy fruit juicier.

Balgus82 · 01-05-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

And don' forget like L08e16o said, Berbils wanted to hug Panthro, how can he hug them in this state, They will not tolerate it and will immideatly design brand new arms for Panthro, extra features included.

I've had that same exact thought. lol

"Panthro no hug? Robear Bill build Panthro arms to hug!"

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I've had that same exact thought. lol

"Panthro no hug? Robear Bill build Panthro arms to hug!"

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I wonder what enhancements his arms will have? Maybe missles or lasers?

I hope they up grade his weapon.

stormbringer · 01-05-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Maybe a portable candy fruit juicier.

For those long trips in the thundertank!

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I hope they up grade his weapon.

lasers and missiles I think they will give, plus super bionic muscle strength

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yeah Cloud's swords were really cool, but to tell you the truth I like Sephiroth more in FF7, he definetly was one of the greatest villain in FF history.

oh and I really like Sephirot's theme song "The one winged angel"

Did you play Crisis Core on PSP, really like the prequel story there. where Sephrioth was still "human" not the mad but cool villain. Not to mention Zack's sad story. Without Zack there will be no Cloud.

His sword was cool too. The animation was done well.

No, I only have a PS3. Playing Elder scroll 5 and dynasty warriors 7 extreme legends.

Xenosaga and legacy of Kain are my favorite games.

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

For those long trips in the thundertank!

And the kittens will be very happy, they can "overuse" this particular feature.

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

lasers and missiles I think they will give, plus super bionic muscle strength

I was thinking energy nunchucks or he can change his arm into any weapon.

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

His sword was cool too. The animation was done well.

No, I only have a PS3. Playing Elder scroll 5 and dynasty warriors 7 extreme legends.

Xenosaga and legacy of Kain are my favorite games.

Ah Xenosaga, the old days of Xenogear. Legacy of Kain also great.

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I was thinking energy nunchucks or he can change his arm into any weapon.

That will be

too!

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunderandreams

Maybe do a poll on who will build Panthros arms?

Since he wont be doing it himself?

Lion-o
Tygra
Panthro with his feet and pure willpower
Berbills
Batman
A still unknown new charactor
Someone else, namely..

I going to say with his feet, any means possible.

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Ah Xenosaga, the old days of Xenogear. Legacy of Kain also great.

Xenogears was a seperate story.

They all had complex plots.

Xenosaga died due to the break up of the two main writers.

Legacy of Kain died due to CD. They cut so much out of the games do to time and money.

Xenosaga 2 was terrible. The new team that created it destoryed the series.

There was suppose to be 7 games for xenosaga.

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

Wats up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have any more art to share?

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

His sword was cool too. The animation was done well.

No, I only have a PS3. Playing Elder scroll 5 and dynasty warriors 7 extreme legends.

Xenosaga and legacy of Kain are my favorite games.

Did you play Secret Of Mana back in SNES days? or the original Legend Of Zelda back in the NES days.

With Ps3 I am hoping Final Fantasy XIII - 2 will not be like the first FF XIII, like it or not those linear borring hallways were a big problem in FF XIII. If the previews weren't lying, FF XIII - 2 will have proper world map and you can change the story by your choices or decisions during moments in the game.

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82

I doubt it. I think he totally meant it when he said he'd never betray Lion-O. Besides he'd go off on his own before he sided with Mumm-Ra. Afterall Mumm-Ra killed his father and destroyed his city too.

I was thinking the tygrus angle.

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Xenogears was a seperate story.

They all had complex plots.

Xenosaga died due to the break up of the two main writers.

Legacy of Kain died due to CD. They cut so much out of the games do to time and money.

Xenosaga 2 was terrible. The new team that created it destoryed the series.

There was suppose to be 7 games for xenosaga.

Yeah wonder what happen to Xenosaga, they should make one for PS3. Ps3 Rpgs list are very low nowdays. I hope Kingdom Of Amalur will be great too since Todd McFarlane involved in it.

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Did you play Secret Of Mana back in SNES days? or the original Legend Of Zelda back in the NES days.

With Ps3 I am hoping Final Fantasy XIII - 2 will not be like the first FF XIII, like it or not those linear borring hallways were a big problem in FF XIII. If the previews weren't lying, FF XIII - 2 will have proper world map and you can change the story by your choices or decisions during moments in the game.

Zelda, yes. My father and I spent a lot of hours on that. My mom would trip on the cords on purpose. She was giving him the hint that he needed to spend more time with her.

No on Secret of Mana. I had Sega then PS.

FFX is my favorite of the series. That was a sad ending.

Is it a MMO? I am waiting on Diablo 3.

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yeah wonder what happen to Xenosaga, they should make one for PS3. Ps3 Rpgs list are very low nowdays. I hope Kingdom Of Amalur will be great too since Todd McFarlane involved in it.

It was xeno 2 that killed it. They had a totally different crew that worked on it.

I would love for they to redo the series. Xeno 1 was suppose to be even bigger.

Shooter are more popular, I am not a fan of them. Elder and Dragon age is all I play for RPG. I still want my warden back.

They have a lot of people working on that game.

DarkKnight · 01-05-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

The dark knight returrns! What is the current news in Gotham?

staus report: gotham is safe as usual.

DarkKnight · 01-05-2012, 05:46 PM

i gotta sick story idea

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Did you play Secret Of Mana back in SNES days? or the original Legend Of Zelda back in the NES days.

With Ps3 I am hoping Final Fantasy XIII - 2 will not be like the first FF XIII, like it or not those linear borring hallways were a big problem in FF XIII. If the previews weren't lying, FF XIII - 2 will have proper world map and you can change the story by your choices or decisions during moments in the game.

Here is going back, did you play the first Castlevainia?

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

i gotta sick story idea

For who?

DarkKnight · 01-05-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

For who?

in general

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Zelda, yes. My father and I spent a lot of hours on that. My mom would trip on the cords on purpose. She was giving him the hint that he needed to spend more time with her.

No on Secret of Mana. I had Sega then PS.

FFX is my favorite of the series. That was a sad ending.

Is it a MMO? I am waiting on Diablo 3.

Talk about game addicts, like Father like Son eh

No one else in my family are game addicts except me

My brother not really into games, though he played some once in awhile.

FFX yeah sad ending but they fix it with FFX-2 (but the game itself was awfull).

on not MMO its like elderscroll and Neverwinternights and FF. According to McFarlane it will be different than other rpgs outthere.

DarkKnight · 01-05-2012, 05:49 PM

remeber the first two I did. Well i have a third one.

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

staus report: gotham is safe as usual.

good to know. The joker in arkham? or still running loose in arkham city?

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

in general

You said you were a Xmarksmen. Were you trained?

L08e16o · 01-05-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

staus report: gotham is safe as usual.

From catwomen, WW, or tygra?

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Here is going back, did you play the first Castlevainia?

Nope. But the reviews said it was great.

stormbringer · 01-05-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

good to know. The joker in arkham? or still running loose in arkham city?

I thought the joker was dead in arkham city?

DarkKnight · 01-05-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

good to know. The joker in arkham? or still running loose in arkham city?

R.I.P. Clown Prince of Crime 1939-2011

he's dead

DarkKnight · 01-05-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I thought the joker was dead in arkham city?

he is.

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

From catwomen, WW, or tygra?

Oh yeah we haven't thought the possibility of Tygra visiting gotham

DarkKnight · 01-05-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Oh yeah we haven't thought the possibility of Tygra visiting gotham

oh trust me he wont

cmangund · 01-05-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

he is.

I doubt he will be "dead" for long

01-05-2012, 09:18 AM	#3251
L08e16o Survivor of the Anointment Trials Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,481	Quote: Originally Posted by cmangund Which is why snarf must help the Lion-O/Cheetara thing to happen, as he disrupted that very important moment in Ep4! He owes Lion-O bigtime. When they are close next time, snarf needs to bump lion-o into her. Last edited by L08e16o; 01-05-2012 at 10:26 AM..

01-05-2012, 04:37 PM	#3259
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	I'll just post L08e16o's question that I answered: Why didn't he include cheetara in the prophecy? It either because (if it was not an illusions) taking into consideration the usual facts and data: 1. Cheetara could purposely rearrange her dialogue a bit while speaking to Tygra at the beginning to soften Tygra up, preventing him doing something stupid to Lion-O (the betrayal) intentionally or not. In this case Cheetara will still be in the highest good, because if Tygra will do something stupid that might even kill or "kill" Lion-O, the Tcats will be doomed for sure. So Cheetara relized the stakes here, when anet mentiend the prophecies twice. Thus she said I did choose years ago but did not say tygra's name, because if she begin that dialogue by mentioning Lion-O's name Tygra could get cooked up again, so a bit of tactical engagement here from Cheetara while still actually wanted to say thank you to Tygra (small amount of feelings maybe there too otherwise she will just hug Tygra not giving Tygra a chance to kiss her, but that's conditional). Thus Cheetara's intention is not betrayal but can be seen as a betrayal to Lion-O. She can explain the details of her choosing after the bell rang. If she chose Lion-O and Tygra not based on feelings alone but because of the SoO too, that will also make Tygra understand easier, which is why I think the Cheetara/Lion-O/SoO connection have a high chance coming to light, it will make it alot easier for the writers without having to drag things really long and simplify things while still tieing it to the core plot the SoO, which if you look at the Lion-O/Cheetara thing progression from Ep1-Ep13 by slowly the writers connecting it with the SoO. It's a very simple deduction, if you think about it. 2. Cheetara went to Tygra using her brain (65%)rather than her heart (35%). While with Lion-o is 68% her heart speaking rather than her brain (32%) thus the truth of her choice years ago with her realizing it or not. Thus she was not included in the prophecy. -------------------------------------- Because if not Cheetara will go to both brothers and explain it at the same time, not like in Ep13, that's her character, she did that because there's alot more going on. mainly because of Anet's Prediction, her expression in Ep13 when anet mentioend the prediction again also strengthen that idea a bit. Last edited by cmangund; 01-05-2012 at 05:22 PM..

01-05-2012, 04:45 PM	#3260
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o That was awesome when he did that in the air. Yeah Cloud's swords were really cool, but to tell you the truth I like Sephiroth more in FF7, he definetly was one of the greatest villain in FF history. oh and I really like Sephirot's theme song "The one winged angel" Did you play Crisis Core on PSP, really like the prequel story there. where Sephrioth was still "human" not the mad but cool villain. Not to mention Zack's sad story. Without Zack there will be no Cloud. Last edited by cmangund; 01-05-2012 at 04:47 PM..

01-05-2012, 05:49 PM	#3289
cmangund Hardcore Lion-O + L/C Fan Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: In the timeline where L/C already happened Posts: 1,924	Quote: Originally Posted by L08e16o Zelda, yes. My father and I spent a lot of hours on that. My mom would trip on the cords on purpose. She was giving him the hint that he needed to spend more time with her. No on Secret of Mana. I had Sega then PS. FFX is my favorite of the series. That was a sad ending. Is it a MMO? I am waiting on Diablo 3. Talk about game addicts, like Father like Son eh No one else in my family are game addicts except me My brother not really into games, though he played some once in awhile. FFX yeah sad ending but they fix it with FFX-2 (but the game itself was awfull). on not MMO its like elderscroll and Neverwinternights and FF. According to McFarlane it will be different than other rpgs outthere. Last edited by cmangund; 01-05-2012 at 05:52 PM..