Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

[Balgus82]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Maybe a cat clan that tygra is from and pumyra and Ben-Gali are in. Maybe they rest there for a while. The stones are spread out a round 3rd earth.

She looked like she was on steriods.

I don't have a clue or guess. I think the writers had her out of the picture, so we wouldn't know she was the last SoO bearer.

You know we might aruge about the triangle, but have you seen Naruto?

Naruto/Sakura/Sasuke/Hintia, it can get nasty.

I kinda think Pumyra and Bengali will be in a group of refugees that escape the destruction of Thundera. Either they'll be traveling in a caravan or they'll have a small village settled. But I think they'll still be Thunderians.

Yeah I've seen Naruto. With them I've of the Opinion that Sakura really doesn't have any interest in Nartuo and He'll end up with Hinata. He doesn't dislike Hinata, he just hasn't really noticed her yet. I think Sakura will end up alone though because Sasuke is pretty far gone to the dark side.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

If they are going with Cheetara cannot choose between the brothers after knowing Lion-O's feelings, Cheetara will not flirt with either brothers for a while regardless her connection with Lion-O and the SoO. The evolved triangle scale in equal mode. If they will do some of the JL style, Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra learning that L/C will have an offspring in the future, that will eat Tygra up.

The Cheetara/Lion-O/SoO connections will definitely help their relationship. No matter how/what they are going to do with it.

I hope they wouldn't do the offspring.

The have given little clues about the connection.

When lion-o said ho, they didn't show how he usually does the sword. I think they wanted to show cheetara's connection.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balgus82

I kinda think Pumyra and Bengali will be in a group of refugees that escape the destruction of Thundera. Either they'll be traveling in a caravan or they'll have a small village settled. But I think they'll still be Thunderians.

Yeah I've seen Naruto. With them I've of the Opinion that Sakura really doesn't have any interest in Nartuo and He'll end up with Hinata. He doesn't dislike Hinata, he just hasn't really noticed her yet. I think Sakura will end up alone though because Sasuke is pretty far gone to the dark side.

I can't see sasuke and sakura, he has tried to kill her twice.

[Balgus82]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

I can't see sasuke and sakura, he has tried to kill her twice.

Exactly. Sasuke might as well be asexual. He's never shown interest in anything but revenge.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

I hope they wouldn't do the offspring.

The have given little clues about the connection.

When lion-o said ho, they didn't show how he usually does the sword. I think they wanted to show cheetara's connection.

Just something that crossed my mind that's all.

Yeah so far no other clues aside from what we have seen from the show, the build up, of connecting the Lion-O/Cheetara thing with the SoO.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

If at the end of the next season it is T/C, then there will be no discussions.

If it is L/C at the end of the next season, then that is another story.

L/C angle could continue on not just Ep14 could be 3 parter. But slim chance it will be T/C angle again, unless WB went nuts. The turnover could go slow, medium or fast or equal grounds until the end of season2.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Agreed.

That is what they like to do. Add drama to build layers.

Wonder if Annet's has another prediction, think cheetara will act on it again?

Exactly.

If anet has another one of his predictions again involving Lion-O in particular I am sure Cheetara will act on it.

[stormbringer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

Just something that crossed my mind that's all.

Yeah so far no other clues aside from what we have seen from the show, the build up, of connecting the Lion-O/Cheetara thing with the SoO.

I've been wondering, if Cheetara is linked to the warstone, could Mummra find someone linked to the other stones and get them to serve him?

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

I've been wondering, if Cheetara is linked to the warstone, could Mummra find someone linked to the other stones and get them to serve him?

It's possible I think. Maybe Mumm-Ra will use that method you mention to get the other stones and new allies, since direct approach always no go. Thus new alliances.

[stormbringer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

It's possible I think. Maybe Mumm-Ra will use that method you mention to get the other stones and new allies, since direct approach always no go. Thus new alliances.

Perhaps this is how Pumyra will be introduced.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

Perhaps this is how Pumyra will be introduced.

good idea. And bethored to Tygra, like L08e16o said
Then we will see many entanglements, Ships getting complicated
Mumm-RA included.

[stormbringer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

good idea. And bethored to Tygra, like L08e16o said
Then we will see many entanglements, Ships getting complicated
Mumm-RA included.

Let the soap opera begin!

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

Perhaps this is how Pumyra will be introduced.

Maybe Pumyra will be one of the guardian of the stone like you mentioned way back. Mumm-ra will get control pf Pumra to get the stone for him, Tcats interfere, Tygra safes Pumyra, the Tygra/Pumyra ship begin.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

Let the soap opera begin!

Without the pills.

Lion-O: Poor Mumm-RA, you are no go without the pills eh?

[stormbringer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

good idea. And bethored to Tygra, like L08e16o said
Then we will see many entanglements, Ships getting complicated
Mumm-RA included.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

Without the pills.

Lion-O: Poor Mumm-RA, you are no go without the pills eh?

That's why he has the ancient spirits of evil to transform him.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

That's why he has the ancient spirits of evil to transform him.

After Lion-O ridiculed Mumm-RA, he transforms into the all powerfull Mumm-Ra, See my "sword" now Lion-O , yours just like insects'. MUAHAHAHAAHAH

[stormbringer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

After Lion-O ridiculed Mumm-RA, he transforms into the all powerfull Mumm-Ra, See my "sword" now Lion-O , yours just like insects'. MUAHAHAHAAHAH

Behold! The power of the sword of Plundarr!

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

Behold! The power of the sword of Plundarr!

Lion-O:. Cheetara, some help here.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balgus82

Exactly. Sasuke might as well be asexual. He's never shown interest in anything but revenge.

There is always Karen.

Naruto/Sasuke is probably the most popular.

[L08e16o]

Words of wisdom.

If you are moving into a house with someone, make sure they don't have a lot of stuff.

I am dead.

I having been moving since 8 in the morning yesterday.

Mercy!!!!

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

L/C angle could continue on not just Ep14 could be 3 parter. But slim chance it will be T/C angle again, unless WB went nuts. The turnover could go slow, medium or fast or equal grounds until the end of season2.

I think it all depends on what the writers make lion-o do.

Will he go solo, that makes the most sense. I don't see him laying down like a dog. I think the next 3 will deal with L/C.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

Exactly.

If anet has another one of his predictions again involving Lion-O in particular I am sure Cheetara will act on it.

Can you imagine if Annet's say lion-o will meet great doom. She goes and tries to help and he ends up saving her at the cost of his life.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

I've been wondering, if Cheetara is linked to the warstone, could Mummra find someone linked to the other stones and get them to serve him?

Good idea.

I think she is at least connected to the spell that protects it.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

It's possible I think. Maybe Mumm-Ra will use that method you mention to get the other stones and new allies, since direct approach always no go. Thus new alliances.

He could convice the good cats that they are evil and have them take the sword or break and take the war stone.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

good idea. And bethored to Tygra, like L08e16o said
Then we will see many entanglements, Ships getting complicated
Mumm-RA included.

I would like that.

All my favorite ships would happen.

[stormbringer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Good idea.

I think she is at least connected to the spell that protects it.

I think I'd also have Pumyra as a guardian to a stone, which powers a floating hi tech city of thundrians who disagreed with the abandonment of tech in thundera.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

I think I'd also have Pumyra as a guardian to a stone, which powers a floating hi tech city of thundrians who disagreed with the abandonment of tech in thundera.

Good idea. That will also make Pumyra's character have layers to build on and conflicted views about tech with her clan's views, thus more layered stories and drama, can be built upon

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Words of wisdom.

If you are moving into a house with someone, make sure they don't have a lot of stuff.

I am dead.

I having been moving since 8 in the morning yesterday.

Mercy!!!!

Copy that!

Finished moving yet?

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

He could convice the good cats that they are evil and have them take the sword or break and take the war stone.

Yeah something like that might happen.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

I think it all depends on what the writers make lion-o do.

Will he go solo, that makes the most sense. I don't see him laying down like a dog. I think the next 3 will deal with L/C.

He will act on it and not lying down like a dog. The guy has man up(his manly skills and "sword" just level up from Ep13).

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Can you imagine if Annet's say lion-o will meet great doom. She goes and tries to help and he ends up saving her at the cost of his life.

The Lion-O/Cheetara ship will just get hotter

[cmangund]

One of the things Jelenic Mentioned:

Dr: T.: I recall that the original show liked to present moral lessons along with the stories. I see that you've kept that aspect in the reboot, especially in that episode "Song of the Pedlars".

MJ: That was actually one of Sam Register's notes early on: that we retain that from the original series because was such a big part of it. They had a staff psychologist that helped dictate what these lessons were, and that might be one reason why Thundercats resonated so much with that generation. They look at these Thundercats almost like they're teachers. For a modern audience, we wanted to make sure that that Lion-O was learning a character lesson that helped his hero journey from prince to king. Half of the episodes – maybe more –focus on a lesson very easily identified by our age 6-11 audience that would be the payoff for the episode in terms of what Lion-O learned.


--------------------------------------------------


Cheetara looked so bad already at this point like a Ho, especially in kids eyes eventhoug kids may not really relize what is a Ho. If she will not make things good with Lion-O or making her stay with Tygra without any care towards Lion-O's feelings (the worst of worst case scenario like that I did, will make the triangle a bit too heavy for kids in my oppinion, as all three of them we will be seeing alot), considering all the things she did with Lion-O were still fresh in Lion-O and her minds, That will make her character worst especially in kids eyes. Its like "okay forget Lion-O, now I am with Tygra". Kids see Lion-O/Cheetara more as a romantic couple than Tygra/Cheetara, with all that build up with Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

One of the reasons they have this Tygra/cheetara thing at the end was to show kids that you must not forget someone that already had a good deed to you from the past, before moving on, thus the thank you kiss. One of the lessons for kids. Thus the next lesson will be the moving on with Lion-O part, and making things good with Lion-O too.


They wanted to suprise us with Ep13 ending aside from the lesson for kids thing, so they will not do T/C angle again next that will be too predictable as cleary they wanted to be unpredictable with the story, as they also changed the title of Ep14 from "lost causes" to "NEw Alliances". The Cheetara has chosen Tygra comment, I am sure there's alot more whether its a dialogue twist, She has chosen twice, the truth of her choices, etc to it as with all the analysis, facts,data and discussions.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

Copy that!

Finished moving yet?

Almost, we still have her clothes, bags, and shoes.

Bulk of the stuff is done.

Thanks for asking.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

I think I'd also have Pumyra as a guardian to a stone, which powers a floating hi tech city of thundrians who disagreed with the abandonment of tech in thundera.

Great idea.

I wonder why thunderia gave up on tech?

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Almost, we still have her clothes, bags, and shoes.

Bulk of the stuff is done.

Thanks for asking.

What you said was indeed a word of wisdom, all in the name of love.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

He will act on it and not lying down like a dog. The guy has man up(his manly skills and "sword" just level up from Ep13).

Like people say, lion-o never earn or fought for anything, I think this is the new layer for his character. If he didn't care he would've looked suprised than left.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

What you said was indeed a word of wisdom, all in the name of love.

Got to obey the boss.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Got to obey the boss.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Like people say, lion-o never earn or fought for anything, I think this is the new layer for his character. If he didn't care he would've looked suprised than left.

And what's better then the first actual fight in your life other then for love

[Balgus82]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

Cheetara looked so bad already at this point like a Ho, especially in kids eyes eventhoug kids may not really relize what is a Ho. If she will not make things good with Lion-O or making her stay with Tygra without any care towards Lion-O's feelings (the worst of worst case scenario like that I did, will make the triangle a bit too heavy for kids in my oppinion, as all three of them we will be seeing alot), considering all the things she did with Lion-O were still fresh in Lion-O and her minds, That will make her character worst especially in kids eyes. Its like "okay forget Lion-O, now I am with Tygra". Kids see Lion-O/Cheetara more as a romantic couple than Tygra/Cheetara, with all that build up with Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

One of the reasons they have this Tygra/cheetara thing at the end was to show kids that you must not forget someone that already had a good deed to you from the past, before moving on, thus the thank you kiss. One of the lessons for kids. Thus the next lesson will be the moving on with Lion-O part, and making things good with Lion-O too.


They wanted to suprise us with Ep13 ending aside from the lesson for kids thing, so they will not do T/C angle again next that will be too predictable as cleary they wanted to be unpredictable with the story, as they also changed the title of Ep14 from "lost causes" to "NEw Alliances". The Cheetara has chosen Tygra comment, I am sure there's alot more whether its a dialogue twist, She has chosen twice, the truth of her choices, etc to it as with all the analysis, facts,data and discussions.

I really don't think many 6-11 boys (which is the main target audience) will really care one way or the other about ships. They watch for the action. I also don't think they'll read into those scenes as much as an adult might.

IMO I think the love triangle was placed in there mostly for the fans of the OS who always wondered why Cheetara never hooked up with anyone.

[stormbringer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Great idea.

I wonder why thunderia gave up on tech?

Perhaps there was a desire to start off fresh, like the colonists did at the end of Battlestar Galactica. Never did like that ending.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

Perhaps there was a desire to start off fresh, like the colonists did at the end of Battlestar Galactica. Never did like that ending.

I never got over starbuck being a woman.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

The Lion-O/Cheetara ship will just get hotter

It would.

[stormbringer]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

I never got over starbuck being a women.

I've heard there's going to be a new BSG movie,that'll be more like the original series.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

Cheetara looked so bad already at this point like a Ho, especially in kids eyes eventhoug kids may not really relize what is a Ho. If she will not make things good with Lion-O or making her stay with Tygra without any care towards Lion-O's feelings (the worst of worst case scenario like that I did, will make the triangle a bit too heavy for kids in my oppinion, as all three of them we will be seeing alot), considering all the things she did with Lion-O were still fresh in Lion-O and her minds, That will make her character worst especially in kids eyes. Its like "okay forget Lion-O, now I am with Tygra". Kids see Lion-O/Cheetara more as a romantic couple than Tygra/Cheetara, with all that build up with Lion-O/Cheetara thing.

One of the reasons they have this Tygra/cheetara thing at the end was to show kids that you must not forget someone that already had a good deed to you from the past, before moving on, thus the thank you kiss. One of the lessons for kids. Thus the next lesson will be the moving on with Lion-O part, and making things good with Lion-O too.


They wanted to suprise us with Ep13 ending aside from the lesson for kids thing, so they will not do T/C angle again next that will be too predictable as cleary they wanted to be unpredictable with the story, as they also changed the title of Ep14 from "lost causes" to "NEw Alliances". The Cheetara has chosen Tygra comment, I am sure there's alot more whether its a dialogue twist, She has chosen twice, the truth of her choices, etc to it as with all the analysis, facts,data and discussions.

Agree.

She know he likes her. How she reacted when kit was teasing them about kissing. She didn't say anything, so she was fine with it. In E12, she kissed his cheek. He look back as in you chose me, she didn't say anything.

If she was going to tell lion-o that she didn't care for his feelings, she would have set him straigth along time ago. She is not a player, she will go for the highest good.

If she doesn't tell lion-o then it makes her dishonest.

The dialogue was very vague. We know she chose him, but the kiss was a thank you. The writers made sure that the kids knew it was for a thank you. Oh I haven't thanked you. The did that on purpose.

She didn't make her feelings clear, she has the whole show. Everyone saw it.

Lost causes. I like that title better.

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer

I've heard there's going to be a new BSG movie,that'll be more like the original series.

I didn't know that.

Starbuck was my favorite and he was a player.

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Agree.

She know he likes her. How she reacted when kit was teasing them about kissing. She didn't say anything, so she was fine with it. In E12, she kissed his cheek. He look back as in you chose me, she didn't say anything.

If she was going to tell lion-o that she didn't care for his feelings, she would have set him straigth along time ago. She is not a player, she will go for the highest good.

If she doesn't tell lion-o then it makes her dishonest.

The dialogue was very vague. We know she chose him, but the kiss was a thank you. The writers made sure that the kids knew it was for a thank you. Oh I haven't thanked you. The did that on purpose.

She didn't make her feelings clear, she has the whole show. Everyone saw it.

Lost causes. I like that title better.

One of the things Jelenic Mentioned:

Dr: T.: I recall that the original show liked to present moral lessons along with the stories. I see that you've kept that aspect in the reboot, especially in that episode "Song of the Pedlars".

MJ: That was actually one of Sam Register's notes early on: that we retain that from the original series because was such a big part of it. They had a staff psychologist that helped dictate what these lessons were, and that might be one reason why Thundercats resonated so much with that generation. They look at these Thundercats almost like they're teachers. For a modern audience, we wanted to make sure that that Lion-O was learning a character lesson that helped his hero journey from prince to king. Half of the episodes – maybe more –focus on a lesson very easily identified by our age 6-11 audience that would be the payoff for the episode in terms of what Lion-O learned.

--------------------------------------------------

Naturally Cheetara's moral compass ain't looking to good in kids eyes, so they have to make it good next episodes.

"Lost Causes" too much of a spoiler unfortunately

[L08e16o]

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmangund

One of the things Jelenic Mentioned:

Dr: T.: I recall that the original show liked to present moral lessons along with the stories. I see that you've kept that aspect in the reboot, especially in that episode "Song of the Pedlars".

MJ: That was actually one of Sam Register's notes early on: that we retain that from the original series because was such a big part of it. They had a staff psychologist that helped dictate what these lessons were, and that might be one reason why Thundercats resonated so much with that generation. They look at these Thundercats almost like they're teachers. For a modern audience, we wanted to make sure that that Lion-O was learning a character lesson that helped his hero journey from prince to king. Half of the episodes – maybe more –focus on a lesson very easily identified by our age 6-11 audience that would be the payoff for the episode in terms of what Lion-O learned.

--------------------------------------------------

Naturally Cheetara's moral compass ain't looking to good in kids eyes, so they have to make it good next episodes.

"Lost Causes" too much of a spoiler unfortunately

Wow, that says a lot.

There is more to it than that. There is no way they will make cheetara look bad.

Thanks.

[Big Snarf]

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o

Can you imagine if Annet's say lion-o will meet great doom. She goes and tries to help and he ends up saving her at the cost of his life.

That won't happen lion-o most likely won't die at any point in the show. What annet can say is "tygra tomorrow you will be betrayed" and the next day when he asks everyone if they've seen cheetara and they say no then turns the corner and sees cheetara kissing snarf . Now we know the reason the actions of snarf in ep 4

[cmangund]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Snarf

That won't happen lion-o most likely won't die at any point in the show. What annet can say is "tygra tomorrow you will be betrayed" and the next day when he asks everyone if they've seen cheetara and they say no then turns the corner and sees cheetara kissing snarf . Now we know the reason the actions of snarf in ep 4

Darn the truth was Cheetara/Snarf all along! the little weasel snarf is indeed the true masters of evil