Thundercats Ep 13 - Between Brothers Discussion

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Lesson could be, nice guys finish last.

Lion-o may come to the same conclusion, and become more bitter. After this experience who could blame him.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Yep I think that's what most of the thunderdads would prefer, and I'm sure the kids would like it. The NS show is like the comics, a complete disgrace.

There's always a chance for that. The OS toys still sell well. WB and Bandai will see this opportunity $$$$, with all these backlashes with the NS, word will travel fast. So we will get the Real Updated Version of the OS not this crappy reboot. Since the toys are what drove them to make the NS in the first place. We allready see many reboot of Transforemers, two reboots of Ninja Turtles, why not two reboots of TCATS.

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[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

There's always a chance for that. The OS toys still sell well. WB and Bandai will see this opportunity $$$$, with all these backlashes with the NS, word will travel fast. So we will get the Real Updated Version of the OS not this crappy reboot. Since the toys are what drove them to make the NS in the first place. We allready see many reboot of Transforemers, two reboots of Ninja Turtles, why not two reboots of TCATS.

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A new series that's a sequel to the OS, written by many of the same writers that wrote the OS would be dream come true.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Lion-o may come to the same conclusion, and become more bitter. After this experience who could blame him.

Will Friedle, Lion-O's VA said something like that, Lion-O is this happy upbeat fella in the beginining, but a lot of things will happen to him making him darker later on.

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[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Hooray, all hail Tygra, Tygra!
PATHETIC BEYOND BELIEVE!

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Tygra is the Lord of the Thunder Cats not lion-o.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

A new series that's a sequel to the OS, written by many of the same writers that wrote the OS would be dream come true.

Man that will be the day when we all can go to Valhalla happy.

Peter Lawrence one of the OS writers said the same thing to WB when he was called to write the Magi Oar Episode, why not call in all the OS producers and crew too.

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[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Will Friedle, Lion-O's VA said something like that, Lion-O is this happy upbeat fella in the beginining, but a lot of things will happen to him making him darker later on.

Was he telling us the truth?

Let's put the triangle aside, what else would make he darker?

Tygra betraying him would be the only thing I can think of.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Man that will be the day when we all can go to Valhalla happy.

Peter Lawrence one of the OS writers said the same thing to WB when he was called to write the Magi Oar Episode, why not call in all the OS producers and crew too.

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I would take a break from TC for a while. If the NS doesn't get better, TC will be ruin for me.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Was he telling us the truth?

Let's put the triangle aside, what else would make he darker?

Tygra betraying him would be the only thing I can think of.

Well maybe he is telling the truth. the dying experience part maybe, or perhaps the curse of ratilla, maybe in that episode Cheetara will be cursed along with Lion-O, allowing her to see just how much Lion loves her, trying to free her from the curse, but getting himsef darker in the process.

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[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I would take a break from TC for a while. If the NS doesn't get better, TC will be ruin for me.

Yeah we need a break from the constant fiasco. If things get worst and worst.

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[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Well maybe he is telling the truth. the dying experience part maybe, or perhaps the curse of ratilla, maybe in that episode Cheetara will be cursed along with Lion-O, allowing her to see just how much Lion loves her, trying to free her from the curse, but getting himsef darker in the process.

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Come on, you expect them to think that way.

I don't think the death will, he has to pass trails to get a second chance at living. I think he would fail if he let his heart become darker in the trails.

I feel for the guy.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yeah we need a break from the constant fiasco. If things get worst and worst.

How much more stuff will lion-o have to endure?

Hey you didn't say anything about the new lord of the thundercats.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Come on, you expect them to think that way.

I don't think the death will, he has to pass trails to get a second chance at living. I think he would fail if he let his heart become darker in the trails.

I feel for the guy.

One can always hope with all the crew's pattern and storytelling so out of the loop, something like that can happen, bam L/C happen. A simple process of elimination, like holmes always said all possible angles.

I feel for Lion-O too, Our hero is in shambles because of the evil, evil Jelenic and crew. DARN IT!!!!

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[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

How much more stuff will lion-o have to endure?

Hey you didn't say anything about the new lord of the thundercats.

With all that Lion-o has had to deal with already, anything else he'll probably snap. As far as the new lord Tygra goes, all I can say is "off with his head".

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

How much more stuff will lion-o have to endure?

Hey you didn't say anything about the new lord of the thundercats.

At this point I don't think Lion-O can take anymore. Logically speaking without driving him nuts. But this show is nothing but logical.

You mean Tygra, Tygra can go the nine depths of hell for all I care.

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[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

One can always hope with all the crew's pattern and storytelling so out of the loop, something like that can happen, bam L/C happen. A simple process of elimination, like holmes always said all possible angles.

I feel for Lion-O too, Our hero is in shambles because of the evil, evil Jelenic and crew.

Jelenic must be a servant of Mumm-ra himself, to pull this stuff.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Jelenic must be a servant of Mumm-ra himself, to pull this stuff.

I think HE IS MUMM-RA himself in a flesh...

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[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

Come on, you expect them to think that way.

I don't think the death will, he has to pass trails to get a second chance at living. I think he would fail if he let his heart become darker in the trails.

I feel for the guy.

It's possible Lion-o could become more hardened and closed off, like Claudus. It would be believable considering all the crap Lion-o has been through.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

It's possible Lion-o could become more hardened and closed off, like Claudus. It would be believable considering all the crap Lion-o has been through.

But despite all that Cladus has a wife so Claudus was successful with his love life. unless Lion-O was born because Claudus was a player...

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[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

One can always hope with all the crew's pattern and storytelling so out of the loop, something like that can happen, bam L/C happen. A simple process of elimination, like holmes always said all possible angles.

I feel for Lion-O too, Our hero is in shambles because of the evil, evil Jelenic and crew. DARN IT!!!!

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See that is the true evil one. He won't mummra get a couple of victories.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

With all that Lion-o has had to deal with already, anything else he'll probably snap. As far as the new lord Tygra goes, all I can say is "off with his head".

I know it would be a struggle for me.

[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

At this point I don't think Lion-O can take anymore. Logically speaking without driving him nuts. But this show is nothing but logical.

You mean Tygra, Tygra can go the nine depths of hell for all I care.

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Hey, it is MJ at fault.

I agree.

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

I think HE IS MUMM-RA himself in a flesh...

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I can believe it, Jelenic must hate Lion-o to put him through this. The thing is his beloved Tygra and Cheetara still look terrible for what Cheetara put Lion-o through.

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

But despite all that Cladus has a wife so Claudus was successful with his love life. unless Lion-O was born because Claudus was a player...

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It's time for the immortal Panthera to come for Lion-o.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I can believe it, Jelenic must hate Lion-o to put him through this. The thing is his beloved Tygra and Cheetara still look terrible for what Cheetara put Lion-o through.

Jelenic was cornered by the WB Bosses to make L/C happening too. So this is the result. The Final Victory will go to L/C no doubt. Especially with all these backlashes, the WB boss will contact Jelenic saying "I told you so". Now start fixing it, since 26Eps alredy done, thus the real fix for L/C maybe startig Ep27, if the show survive the horror and backlashes.

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[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

It's time for the immortal Panthera to come for Lion-o.

Panthera: My hero, I don't need some crappy flower or hallamark cards to win my heart, you are are always in my heart.

It turns out Panthera is Cheetara's twin sister, identical in DNA level to Cheetara but with good personality. Panthera and Cheetara connected like a seeress or clerics, So they are both the same beeing with one half of the spirit in Panthera and the othe half of the spirit in Cheetara. Only Panthera got all the good stuff with Cheetara the bad stuff.

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[L08e16o]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Panthera: My hero, I don't need some crappy flower or hallamark cards to win my heart, you are are always in my heart.

It turns out Panthera is Cheetara's twin sister, identical in DNA level to Cheetara but with good personality. Panthera and Cheetara connected like a seeress or clerics, So they are both the same beeing with one half of the spirit in Panthera and the othe half of the spirit in Cheetara. Only Panthera got all the good stuff with Cheetara the bad stuff.

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I just hope this is not the pattern of the show.

Lion-o does something immature, he goes through rejection or loss. He has to learn something again.

When will we learn about the other characters?

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Panthera: My hero, I don't need some crappy flower or hallamark cards to win my heart, you are are always in my heart.

It turns out Panthera is Cheetara's twin sister, identical in DNA level to Cheetara but with good personality. Panthera and Cheetara connected like a seeress or clerics, So they are both the same beeing with one half of the spirit in Panthera and the othe half of the spirit in Cheetara. Only Panthera got all the good stuff with Cheetara the bad stuff.

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So will they end up merging into one being so both halves become whole?

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by L08e16o

I just hope this is not the pattern of the show.

Lion-o does something immature, he goes through rejection or loss. He has to learn something again.

When will we learn about the other characters?

Yeah just going crazy the possibilities.

Starting with "Native Son" I guess.

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Jelenic was cornered by the WB Bosses to make L/C happening too. So this is the result. The Final Victory will go to L/C no doubt. Especially with all these backlashes, the WB boss will contact Jelenic saying "I told you so". Now start fixing it, since 26Eps alredy done, thus the real fix for L/C maybe startig Ep27, if the show survive the horror and backlashes.

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I wonder of Jelenic will be able to keep his job after thus backlash?

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

So will they end up merging into one being so both halves become whole?

They will, well as long as the result of the merger will not be the manly Mumm-rana...


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[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yeah just going crazy the possibilities.

Starting with "Native Son" I guess.

What I'm wondering is why is Lion-o the only one that has to learn these "lessons". Lion-o gets messed over by Cheetara, and he has to suffer more?!? Where is her punishment?!

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I wonder of Jelenic will be able to keep his job after thus backlash?

Well I don't now. But the backlashes are not good for his rep, that's for sure.

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[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

They will, well as long as the result of the merger will not be the manly Mumm-rana...


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I don't think either of them could combine to reach Mumm-ranas level of masculinity.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

What I'm wondering is why is Lion-o the only one that has to learn these "lessons". Lion-o gets messed over by Cheetara, and he has to suffer more?!? Where is her punishment?!

Yeah not fair at all. Tygra got everything easily, Lion-O beaten to the actual death by Jelenic and the crew. Cheetara go willy-wally with Tygra while Lion-O byte the dust, pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

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[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Well I don't now. But the backlashes are not good for his rep, that's for sure.

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Yeah this isn't the kind of thing you'd want on your resume.

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Yeah not fair at all. Tygra got everything easily, Lion-O beaten to the actual death by the crew. Cheetara go willy-wally with Tygra while Lion-O byte the dust, pathetic, pathetic, pathetic.

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Clearly Lion-o is just Jelenic's punching bag. He must be a die hard Lion-o hater to come up with this stuff. It's like those awful TCats comics, where thundera is inslaved while Lion-o is in the Book of Omens, and Cheetara blamed him for everything that happened.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I don't think either of them could combine to reach Mumm-ranas level of masculinity.

I am not so sure, with Jelenic and crew at the helm of the show, anything can happen, their pattern and motives are so over the place, like one of Holmes villains, its either they are very clever or very stupid, both extremes are the most difficult to gauge, like Holmes always said. So we have to create so many theories for it and at least so far a combination of our theories and discussions are like what happened in EP14 and 15:

-Lion-O got mortally wounded (Lion-O died) , Checked
-Cheetara actually choosing Tygra but caring for Lion-O too, despite calling it officially as close friends, still a care type of feeling(my third scenario model of the triangle and the many derivations after it) Checked
-Lion-O loosing the SoO, Checked
-The focus is still L/C despite T/C running, Checked

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[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Clearly Lion-o is just Jelenic's punching bag. He must be a die hard Lion-o hater to come up with this stuff. It's like those awful TCats comics, where thundera is inslaved while Lion-o is in the Book of Omens, and Cheetara blamed him for everything that happened.

Which is why Jelenic and Spaulding mentioned how to make Tygra look good. They think heavily on upstaging Tygra from The OS, like they said. That shows they are bot diehard Tygra fans, no matter how they tried to deny it, the facts speak louder. But WB Bosses ere not, they know the show is about Lion-O like Register said, in the spirit of the OS. so WB Bosses likes Lion-O and prefer L/C.

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[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

I am not so sure, with Jelenic and crew at the helm of the show, anything can happen, their pattern and motives are so over the place, like one of Holmes villains, its either they are very clever or very stupid, both extremes are the most difficult to gauge, like Holmes always said. So we have to create so many theories for it and at least so far a combination of our theories and discussions are like what happened in EP14 and 15:

-Lion-O got mortally wounded (Lion-O died) , Checked
-Cheetara actually choosing Tygra but caring for Lion-O too, despite calling it officially as close friends, still a care type of feeling(my third scenario model of the triangle and the many derivations after it) Checked
-Lion-O loosing the SoO, Checked
-The focus is still L/C despite T/C running, Checked

Ah yes, the age old dilemma of how to rationally decipher irrational behavior. In that case Panthera/Cheetara should stay seperate beings, Lion-o can find Panthera and leave with her, the kids, and Snarf. And Tygra and Cheat-tara can destroy each other. Sounds about right to me.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Ah yes, the age old dilemma of how to rationally decipher irrational behavior. In that case Panthera/Cheetara should stay seperate beings, Lion-o can find Panthera and leave with her, the kids, and Snarf. And Tygra and Cheat-tara can destroy each other. Sounds about right to me.

Goodbye Tygra and Cheat-tara, We have a kingdom to rebuilt. you guys can destroy each other in your little garden full of crappy flowers.

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[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Which is why Jelenic and Spaulding mentioned how to make Tygra look good. They think heavily on upstaging Tygra from The OS, like they said. That shows they are bot diehard Tygra fans, no matter how they tried to deny it, the facts speak louder. But WB Bosses ere not, they know the show is about Lion-O like Register said, in the spirit of the OS. so WB Bosses likes Lion-O and prefer L/C.

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Then I'd say its time for the WB bosses to step in and put a stop to this foolishnes. Tygra and Cheetara need to start paying for everything theyve done, enough with Lion-o suffering.

[stormbringer]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

Goodbye Tygra and Cheat-tara, We have a kingdom to rebuilt. you guys can destroy each other in your little garden full of crappy flowers.

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I wonder how long it would take before Cheetara starting going on the prowl? You know Tygra won't be able to trust Cheat-tara anymore than Lion-o could.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

Then I'd say its time for the WB bosses to step in and put a stop to this foolishnes. Tygra and Cheetara need to start paying for everything theyve done, enough with Lion-o suffering.

Logically speaking WB boss should step in quick. Or maybe they already made the deal with Jelenic and crew, so one season (the first 26 EPs) for Jelenic to get what he wants T/C and Tygra and the next season (the next 26 Eps WB's season 2) will be for Lion-O and L/C to shine.

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[DarkKnight]

seriously enough

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by stormbringer

I wonder how long it would take before Cheetara starting going on the prowl? You know Tygra won't be able to trust Cheat-tara anymore than Lion-o could.

Once Tygra outlived his usefullness, Cheetara will leave Tygra that's for sure.

Yeah with all the manipulative skill cheat-tara has. Tygra must always be ready for the unexpected.

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[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

seriously enough

cool avatar!

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[DarkKnight]

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Originally Posted by cmangund

cool avatar!

yeah........ thanks. i feeling pretty akward

[DarkKnight]

i think you guys may be taking this too far.

[cmangund]

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight

i think you guys may be taking this too far.

Taking what, the fight?

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