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Old 02-07-2011, 06:02 PM   #1
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If both were in Bad-Ass non-comical-80stoon-villian mode, and Skeletor went head to head with Mumm-Ra, which bone-oriented villain would win? GO!
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:04 PM   #2
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80's Mumm-Ra vs 80's Skeletor would be easy, Mumm-Ra hands down. But if Mumm-Ra was fighting the 2k version of Skeletor that would be a damn good fight and one I couldn't call.
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:20 PM   #3
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Mumm-Ra the All-Powerful form smashes Skeletor no problem.
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:23 PM   #4
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Mumm Ra would kick his butt
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:31 PM   #5
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Mumm-Ra the ever living FTW
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:38 PM   #6
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Mumm-ra always seemed like a darker, more serious villain to me. I think he'd take it.
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Old 02-07-2011, 07:55 PM   #7
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Just against Skeletor, right? Not Skeletor with a mirror? Then yes, Mumm-Ra.
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:33 PM   #8
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CBUB did this fight several years back. CBUB Fights: Skeletor vs. Mumm-Ra

It's an interesting battle.

If we're taking the '80's version of Skeletor, he's got a whole host of powers.




Also he's got a winning record against other villains. He's pwned Hordak in every battle (in fact the writers said they often used Skeletor against other villains just so he could win.) as well as other one shot type foes. Skeletor also has the handicap of being from one of the most kid friendly shows of the '80s.

The film version is one of the best '80's fantasy villains and the only good point about the movie.



The 200X version doesn't have the handicap of his predecessors as being so cartoony, but doesn't seem to have the whole host of powers that the other versions have but is a sorcerer of some regard.

Then there's my prefered version of Skeletor, the pre-filmation comic version. In this story he is a foreigner from another dimension. A demon who travels from world to world, taking its great treasures and power and then destroying the world, kind of like a magic Braniac. In the minic-comics and the DC comics, He-man (No Prince Adam, he's a savage warrior) never beats him. It takes the intervention of the Goddess to do so.

That said, Mumm-Ra is the everliving. He's got a whole host of powers that run the gambit, from shapeshifting to necromancy, to arcane knowledge of things that only other greater beings are supposed to know about. He's the personal enforcer of the ancient spirits of evil essentially.
And there's this,

Now we've got a complete unknown in the new version of Mumm-Ra from the upcoming cartoon, which according to the writers is a much darker version then we've ever seen before.

Any way you shake it (well, except Super Mumm-Ra vs 200X Skeletor), it should be a good (evil?) fight.

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Old 02-08-2011, 01:46 AM   #9
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Mumra all the way!
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Old 02-08-2011, 07:41 AM   #10
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Clearly Mumm-Ra. Skeletor was a joke, even at his "scariest".

I'd love to see a live action movie Mumm-Ra...
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:35 AM   #11
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What, seriously? Mumm-Ra would OWN Skeletor.
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Old 02-08-2011, 07:50 PM   #12
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Question, would this be before or after they teamed up to kill He-Man and Lion-O?
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:23 PM   #13
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Mumm-ra!! I'd love to see that fight..
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Old 02-10-2011, 12:04 AM   #14
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mumm-ra FTW
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Old 02-10-2011, 02:40 AM   #15
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Mummra would skull fuck him. Over.
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Old 02-10-2011, 09:24 AM   #16
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A darker Mumm-Ra? He was pretty dark in the 80's
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Old 02-10-2011, 10:59 AM   #17
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Gotta give it to Mumm-Ra....Magic beats science.
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Old 02-14-2011, 02:39 PM   #18
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Mumm-Ra all the way and without question.
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:47 PM   #19
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Gotta give it to Mumm-Ra....Magic beats science.
Skeletor used magic not science. That was Hordak.
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:33 PM   #20
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I'd have to say Mumm-Ra would probably win. They're both well-designed characters, and, both were highly entertaining to watch (I'm also referring to both versions of Skeletor), but, from their own back-stories, Mumm-Ra is still older, and has far more knowledge and experience. He also has the bonus of being pretty much indestructible as long as evil exists; Skeletor's own evil nature would ensure Mumm-Ra's survival.

Also, I would think that Skeletor would only be defeated, not dead, at the end of a fight between them; he seems to me to be that somehow always manages to avoid death.
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Old 02-15-2011, 02:05 AM   #21
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I think vs could be a stalemate, Although Mumm-ra could take him. I'm thinking they are both ultimate bad guys, and a team up vs the thundercats and MOTU universe would be a sight to see.
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Old 02-25-2011, 04:11 AM   #22
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If both were in Bad-Ass non-comical-80stoon-villian mode, and Skeletor went head to head with Mumm-Ra, which bone-oriented villain would win? GO!
Does this duel take place before or after Vegeta kills them both then blows up their planets just for shits and giggles?

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Old 02-25-2011, 02:59 PM   #23
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^ Before. Unless the fight takes place in Other World, that is.

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Question, would this be before or after they teamed up to kill He-Man and Lion-O?
After, because they'd blame each other for losing.

And oh yeah, Mumm-Ra wins either way.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:28 PM   #24
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Numero Uno

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Old 02-28-2011, 01:25 PM   #25
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Mumm-ra blew up planet Thundera. And he got Tygra hooked on silky fruit. Dude is bad.
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:10 AM   #26
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There's no competition Bujo as all Dragonball and Dragonball Z characters are punk ass bitches, so they would all get owned by either Skeletor or Mumm-ra Individually, god I hate DB/DBZ with a passion - these shows are the worst of Japanese Anime and Manga, in my opinion and I love Anime and Manga (Old School).

Now onto the question, I would think it would be a close fought fight, now I say Mumm-ra would win on sheer awesomness, however the Wife said Skeletor.
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Old 03-09-2011, 05:10 AM   #27
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Oh come on....DBZ was pretty good. I liked it.
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Old 04-06-2011, 02:12 AM   #28
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Yeah buddy.

> mumm-raa & skeletor
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:00 AM   #29
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Ancient spirits of evil will make Mumm-ra win
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:45 AM   #30
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Mumm-Ra Lives!

Skeletor could rotate every costume (Battle Armor, Dragon Blaster, Terror Claws, Laser Light, etc), and he would still be delivered a severe beating. Mumm-Ra has that "Ever-Living" trick going for him.

I love both of you, but sorry Skeletor. Mumm-Ra Lives!
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Old 05-07-2011, 03:19 PM   #31
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Mumm-ra always seemed like a darker, more serious villain to me. I think he'd take it.
I completely agree Mumm-ra was just way more scary and serious than Skeletor
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Old 06-03-2011, 08:02 AM   #32
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Both are excellent characters but it would be almost impossible to call this either way as both were always so ineffective as villains! Did either Skeletor or Mumm-Ra ever achieve anything close to success?

That said, I guess Mumm-Ra would be the ultimate winner as he would just do his "ever living" chant and return next episode. Not sure what would happen to Skeletor if someone were to kill him? Perhaps Hordak would return him to life? Or perhaps Skeletor is already dead?

I would love to see artwork of this fight though!!
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Old 07-31-2011, 11:18 AM   #33
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Obviously Mumm-Ra
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Old 07-31-2011, 04:31 PM   #34
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:45 PM   #35
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Mumm-Ra is a more menacing villain. I like Skeletor as well, but Mumm-Ra has the upper hand.
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Old 08-03-2011, 04:27 AM   #36
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I am both a MOTU fan and Thundercat fan, so this makes it hard to call. Although, I'd have to look at one large factor. Mumm-Ra is an evil "god", where skeletor is a deformed/scarred eternian (human) who was given powers, so I'd also have to say that Mumm-Ra has the upper hand.

On the other hand, I think He-Man would take Lion-O.

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Old 12-18-2011, 03:35 PM   #37
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Behold, my necromancer powers as I revive this thread!

Having recently finished the entire original TC series (and having rewatched the original He-man series in the last 6 years), I'm now comfortable voting and declaring a winner.

Mumm-Ra would pwn Skeletor. Badly. Mumm-ra has the advantage in every category except possibly pure strength (and even that would probably be close) and the likelyhood of that being an element in this fight is extremely unlikely.

In fact, I can see this as being a laughably short fight, wherin Mumm-Ra teleports in, fires off a two handed blast o' death and the fight is practically over at that point. However, that doesn't tend to be Mumm-ra's prefered tactic against anyone he percieves as inferior, plus he can be sadistic when he wants to be (After all, he imprisioned Zaxx in his amulet and turned the Lunataks into living statues), with his abilties I see him appearing not in his Ever-Living form, but taking a page from Fond Memories, and taking on He-mans form, complete with Power Sword and taking him on that way. Skeletor wouldn't stand a chance, the only question is what Mumm-ra does after; does he outright murder him? Does he imprison him in some humiliating form, like by placing Skeletor into his own Havoc Staff? Turn him into a bone statue and let him forever look out, unable to do anything else? Zap him into Limbo+ and let the nothingness consume and eradicate him?

Even taking into account in the OP about non-comical mode, Mumm-Ra has so many tools at his disposal, it wouldn't be a challenge. From watching Skeletor and learning of his powers, weaknesses, and limits and entering the battle prepared to face his opponent, to the sheer number of powers Mumm-Ra could employ that Skeletor just doesn't have an answer for; especially the psychological and manipulative battle that Mumm-Ra would engage Skeletor in. In the 80's cartoons, Mumm-Ra burnt out the eye of Omens and killed Lion-O with a magic blast (As a refresher, Jaga appeared and fixed the eye and revived Lion-O) which was just one of many victories that are a part of Mumm-Ras winning record against his enemies in straight combat. Yes, winning record. Mumm-ra has a greater then 2-1 win/loss ratio in straight combat over the course of the series (27/12 by my count), and if you remove the episodes where he lost when he saw his reflection, it goes way up. Skeletor, on the other hand, has lost when He-man blew on him. Yup. Big ole puff of air. Skeletor has lost when he was super-powered with all the Sorceress' magic infused within him inside Snake Mountain. You turn these characters into dangerous non-comical enemies who have to lose and Skeletor becomes a real legitimate threat. Who gets pwned by Mumm-Ra.

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Old 01-02-2012, 10:44 PM   #38
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All Skeletor would have to do is hold a mirror up and he wins.
End of fight.
Sorry, but that's the truth.

Yes Skeletor would win.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:43 AM   #39
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All Skeletor would have to do is hold a mirror up and he wins.
End of fight.
Sorry, but that's the truth.

Yes Skeletor would win.
Perhaps you should rewatch "Mumm-Ra Lives! Part V" for a refresher.

Or be just as surprised as Lion-O (and Skeletor) at what happens. There's a reason why from that point on for the remaining episodes of that season and 2 remaining seasons of the series, no one bothers to try to show Mumm-Ra his reflection again.

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Old 01-03-2012, 01:17 PM   #40
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I voted Mumm-Ra. I picked up the Masters of the Universe season sets recently and as I compare the two I think Mumm-Ra just seems more powerful.
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Old 01-05-2012, 04:23 AM   #41
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Perhaps you should rewatch "Mumm-Ra Lives! Part V" for a refresher.

Or be just as surprised as Lion-O (and Skeletor) at what happens. There's a reason why from that point on for the remaining episodes of that season and 2 remaining seasons of the series, no one bothers to try to show Mumm-Ra his reflection again.
I can't remember what happened off the top of my head, and I don't have access to the dvds at the moment. Perhaps you can refresh my memory of what happened.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:27 AM   #42
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I can't remember what happened off the top of my head, and I don't have access to the dvds at the moment. Perhaps you can refresh my memory of what happened.
Lion-O scoffed at Mumm-Ra's advance, stating that Mumm-Ra may be powerful, but he can't stand the sight of evil that is his own reflection as he held up the Claw Shield. Mumm-Ra saw his Ever Living form in the Claw Shield and laughed, explaining that when he returned after being near destroyed by Thundera's Sun, he lost that weakness. Then holding up both hands, he blasted the Thundercats hard.

A plot MacGuffin of pure good allowed the TCats to flee for their lives at the end, a MacGuffin never again seen (and given the Animation it wasn't too hard to conclude that it used up most of it's concentrated good to drive Mumm-Ra away). For the remainder of the series no one even bothered to try to show Mumm-Ra his reflection since it never again had any effect on him.

From that point on Mumm-Ra had virtually no weaknesses. He lost a physical scuffle with Lion-O in a ThunderCat created dimension in the series finale, but even his usual extremely limited energy reserves seemed to be far greater to the point where he never had to withdraw because he used up all his power. Usually plot resolution came from Mumm-Ra winning and the ThunderCats being able to work around it at the last second in all the later episodes and seasons when he was directly involved.

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Old 01-08-2012, 11:46 PM   #43
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Lion-O scoffed at Mumm-Ra's advance, stating that Mumm-Ra may be powerful, but he can't stand the sight of evil that is his own reflection as he held up the Claw Shield. Mumm-Ra saw his Ever Living form in the Claw Shield and laughed, explaining that when he returned after being near destroyed by Thundera's Sun, he lost that weakness. Then holding up both hands, he blasted the Thundercats hard.

A plot MacGuffin of pure good allowed the TCats to flee for their lives at the end, a MacGuffin never again seen (and given the Animation it wasn't too hard to conclude that it used up most of it's concentrated good to drive Mumm-Ra away). For the remainder of the series no one even bothered to try to show Mumm-Ra his reflection since it never again had any effect on him.

From that point on Mumm-Ra had virtually no weaknesses. He lost a physical scuffle with Lion-O in a ThunderCat created dimension in the series finale, but even his usual extremely limited energy reserves seemed to be far greater to the point where he never had to withdraw because he used up all his power. Usually plot resolution came from Mumm-Ra winning and the ThunderCats being able to work around it at the last second in all the later episodes and seasons when he was directly involved.
Oh wow! I didn't know that. Thanks for the explaination. I switch my vote then to Mumm-ra. I just thought of something that Mumm-ra can do but Skeletor can't......and that is FLY. Another huge advantage for the RA.
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