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cmangund 01-31-2012 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 32987)
i noticed we're all arguing less frequently now.

Because we have all agreed by Ep52 there will only be three major possibilities::D

1. The L/C/T Triangle in equal level with all ships go, including any possible secondary love interests (depending on our individual views on the ships, the keener our individual eyes on the ships, the more transparent too of the obvious L/C, as this is not a "rush job")
2. The Triangle tipping alot more to L/C
3. L/C happened 100% and Tygra/Pumyra 100% or other love interest

Balgus82 01-31-2012 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 33061)
Because we have all agreed by Ep52 there will only be three major possibilities::D

1. The L/C/T Triangle in equal level with all ships go, including any possible secondary love interests (depending on our individual views on the ships, the keener our individual eyes on the ships, the more transparent too of the obvious L/C, as this is not a "rush job")
2. The Triangle tipping alot more to L/C
3. L/C happened 100% and Tygra/Pumyra 100% or other love interest

We all have most definitely not agreed on that. And thanks for bringing the triangle up yet again when we were finally discussing something else civilly.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 33032)
Annet said he would know a betrayal then he would feel betrayed i think annet was talking about the whole pit incident. Annet said before the bell rings which could've been anytime during that day

Remember lion-o told Annet that tygra hasn't betrayed him and Annet's said he hasn't heard the bells.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 33034)
Not really because leo isn't lion-o. In the book when lion-o relives leo's life he didn't know what to do and needed panthera to help him just like in his own life cheetara tries to help him. The only difference is that panthera is competent and cheetara isn't. Panthera was leo's second in command while i doubt cheetara could be that for lion-o

See, I think the legacy was a foreshadow of things to come.

Yeah, panthera did a lot of the work.

Didn't cheetara take over jaga's role?

L08e16o 01-31-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 33036)
Leo may have decided that the stones and the sword were too much power for one person or kingdom to have and hid the stones and tried to get rid of the sword but the sword chose him and his blood line and the book was kept for records but we see why it also had to be hidden

I wonder if the clerics were made in Leo's time.

Don't you think Leo's blood line would get weak over time with the connection to the sword?

L08e16o 01-31-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 33038)
His gauntlet had no stones on it in the OS. I guess the stones would be used just like how they were used in the legacy ep so the stones would be weapons on their own

Sorry, should have said Jewels.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33045)
The Gauntlet was made to hold them, but They weren't made for the Gauntlet.

That's a distinct difference. They have power without the Sword and Gauntlet.

Who do you think the stone would be given too?

L08e16o 01-31-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 33061)
Because we have all agreed by Ep52 there will only be three major possibilities::D

1. The L/C/T Triangle in equal level with all ships go, including any possible secondary love interests (depending on our individual views on the ships, the keener our individual eyes on the ships, the more transparent too of the obvious L/C, as this is not a "rush job")
2. The Triangle tipping alot more to L/C
3. L/C happened 100% and Tygra/Pumyra 100% or other love interest

I would like that.:)

L08e16o 01-31-2012 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33046)
Well actually it did have 3 red stones at the nuckles, but they didn't have any special properties other than being grappling hooks.

But I think he was actually referring to the Leo flashbacks and wrote OS by mistake.

I have not watched the OS in along time. I remember the jewels, but I thought there was a green jewel on it too.

Ravenxl7 01-31-2012 09:26 AM

L08e16o, not to sound like a jerk, but...instead of posting six separate posts like that, I would recommend using the multi-quote feature (it's there for this very purpose).

L08e16o 01-31-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 (Post 33095)
L08e16o, not to sound like a jerk, but...instead of posting six separate posts like that, I would recommend using the multi-quote feature (it's there for this very purpose).

Why am I PO?

Do you think I might be posting from work and my gover%%%*t computer does not allow me that option.

Ravenxl7 01-31-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33105)
Why am I PO?

Ummm....PO?

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33105)
Do you think I might be posting from work and my G computer does not allow me that option.

Honestly didn't know the computer you were on was keeping you from using the multi-quote function, or that could happen. Just giving some friendly advice...

L08e16o 01-31-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33094)
I have not watched the OS in along time. I remember the jewels, but I thought there was a green jewel on it too.

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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 (Post 33106)
Ummm....PO?


Honestly didn't know the computer you were on was keeping you from using the multi-quote function, or that could happen. Just giving some friendly advice...

Am I making you mad with all my post?

When I am home eastern time 6 p.m. to 6 a.m, I will use that function.

7 a.m. to 530 p.m. I am on my work computer and it is very strict on what I can use. The picture that balgus posted yesterday, I couldn't view. There are a lot of things on this site I can't view or is blocked.

Thanks.

Ravenxl7 01-31-2012 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33107)
Am I making you mad with all my post?

No.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 (Post 33108)
No.

Please tell me Raven doesn't stand for the Ravens NFL team.

Dr Kain 01-31-2012 11:04 AM

So when is the next episode?

Ravenxl7 01-31-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 33114)
So when is the next episode?

We don't know. Season two's air date is still a mystery to everybody atm. Part of me will be really surprised if we don't get some bit of news about it from the New York toy fair. Though the sooner, the better.

Balgus82 01-31-2012 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33089)
I wonder if the clerics were made in Leo's time.

Don't you think Leo's blood line would get weak over time with the connection to the sword?

I think the cats that made the sword were what would become the Clerics, but weren't technically Clerics yet.

And nah if the bloodline got weaker over time Lion-O wouldn't be as strong with the sword as he is.

Balgus82 01-31-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33091)
Who do you think the stone would be given too?

Well IF the stones all go to the Thundercats and not someone else, then I'd say Panthro would have the green stone because it seemed Technology based, Cheetara would probably get the Spirit Stone, and Tygra would probably get the blue one ( but we don't know what properties that one has yet).

Balgus82 01-31-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Kain (Post 33114)
So when is the next episode?

We'll hear official news very, very soon. Trust me.....

stormbringer 01-31-2012 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33089)
I wonder if the clerics were made in Leo's time.

Don't you think Leo's blood line would get weak over time with the connection to the sword?

The stone probably has a magical DNA lock.

Balgus82 01-31-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33127)
The stone probably has a magical DNA lock.

I asked Dan Norton once and he said any kind of cat can use the sword. It's not limited to just Lions. But it's true power only comes out when it's in the right hands (i.e. Lion-O or Leo).

L08e16o 01-31-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33120)
I think the cats that made the sword were what would become the Clerics, but weren't technically Clerics yet.

And nah if the bloodline got weaker over time Lion-O wouldn't be as strong with the sword as he is.

Did they say what type of cats they were?

But what made the bloodline strong? It can't be just the male. Not all of the lions were strongly connected to the SoO.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33122)
Well IF the stones all go to the Thundercats and not someone else, then I'd say Panthro would have the green stone because it seemed Technology based, Cheetara would probably get the Spirit Stone, and Tygra would probably get the blue one ( but we don't know what properties that one has yet).

Don't you think that would make it easier for mummra to get them?

L08e16o 01-31-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33127)
The stone probably has a magical DNA lock.

Good guess.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33133)
I asked Dan Norton once and he said any kind of cat can use the sword. It's not limited to just Lions. But it's true power only comes out when it's in the right hands (i.e. Lion-O or Leo).

But what makes lion-o so special. Leo was different.

There is something about Lion-o that is different than the others.

Why did his mom die so soon?

Balgus82 01-31-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33136)
Did they say what type of cats they were?

But what made the bloodline strong? It can't be just the male. Not all of the lions were strongly connected to the SoO.

I believe they said they were cougars. If my memory is right.


Anyway the bloodline thing is just for the throne. It doesn't necessarily have to be a Lion that uses the sword. It's just that only Lions ruled so only Lions had a chance to try.

Balgus82 01-31-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33138)
Don't you think that would make it easier for mummra to get them?

No I don't. If only one person has the stones then all Mumm-Ra has to defeat is one person.

If the whole team shares the stones then he'll have to fight the whole team.

Balgus82 01-31-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33140)
But what makes lion-o so special. Leo was different.

There is something about Lion-o that is different than the others.

Why did his mom die so soon?

My theory is that Lion-O is the reincarnation of Leo. We know the cats believe in reincarnation because of what they said at Claudus's funeral.
It was like "sleep well to rise again" or something. I don't remember the exact words.

stormbringer 01-31-2012 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33089)
I wonder if the clerics were made in Leo's time.

Don't you think Leo's blood line would get weak over time with the connection to the sword?

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33140)
But what makes lion-o so special. Leo was different.

There is something about Lion-o that is different than the others.

Why did his mom die so soon?

I think "sight beyond sight" isn't just literal, but metaphorical. Lion-o like Leo, sees the importance of equality between all the animals, and its that personality trait that the sword saw in them both.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33143)
I believe they said they were cougars. If my memory is right.


Anyway the bloodline thing is just for the throne. It doesn't necessarily have to be a Lion that uses the sword. It's just that only Lions ruled so only Lions had a chance to try.

Thanks.

But at some point you think they would lose the throne.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33144)
No I don't. If only one person has the stones then all Mumm-Ra has to defeat is one person.

If the whole team shares the stones then he'll have to fight the whole team.

I think mummra would attack them when they are seperate from each other.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33146)
My theory is that Lion-O is the reincarnation of Leo. We know the cats believe in reincarnation because of what they said at Claudus's funeral.
It was like "sleep well to rise again" or something. I don't remember the exact words.

So do you think Tygrus is a reincarnation too?

Good theroy.

stormbringer 01-31-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33153)
Thanks.

But at some point you think they would lose the throne.

Well, they kind of have at this point.;)

L08e16o 01-31-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33149)
I think "sight beyond sight" isn't just literal, but metaphorical. Lion-o like Leo, sees the importance of equality between all the animals, and its that personality trait that the sword saw in them both.

You don't think there is more to it?

Lion-o will be able to tap into the War stone other powers that are not SBS.

Other lions were picked by the SoO.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33157)
Well, they kind of have at this point.;)

I mean in the past.

I think the stones were scattered on purpose. I think the different cat tribes battled too.

Balgus82 01-31-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33155)
I think mummra would attack them when they are seperate from each other.

Maybe he would, but the point remains he would have to fight 4 separate battles instead of just one.

Balgus82 01-31-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33156)
So do you think Tygrus is a reincarnation too?

Good theroy.

I really only think Lion-O is the only one that was a reincarnation of those characters.

It could be possible Tygra is a reincarnation of Tygus as well, but I don't think he is.

stormbringer 01-31-2012 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33160)
I mean in the past.

I think the stones were scattered on purpose. I think the different cat tribes battled too.

Well, with no technology, and only the Lions with the sword in their possesion, a rebellion against them probably wouldn't work out too well for the rebels.The writers did say that we'll get to see more of what happened in the past. Chances are, that not all the card were thrilled with Leos rule, maybe there was a war that nearly wiped all the cats out, leading to them banning technology from their society.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33161)
Maybe he would, but the point remains he would have to fight 4 separate battles instead of just one.

I think his new alliance will get the stone for him.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33162)
I really only think Lion-O is the only one that was a reincarnation of those characters.

It could be possible Tygra is a reincarnation of Tygus as well, but I don't think he is.

See I thought they were showing the four characters that will matter in the end. M/L/T/C.

L08e16o 01-31-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33163)
Well, with no technology, and only the Lions with the sword in their possesion, a rebellion against them probably wouldn't work out too well for the rebels.The writers did say that we'll get to see more of what happened in the past. Chances are, that not all the card were thrilled with Leos rule, maybe there was a war that nearly wiped all the cats out, leading to them banning technology from their society.

Maybe the city holds the key.

I don't think all the cats were to happy with leo after they beat mummra. He went against them and not to mention the power he has with the stones.

stormbringer 01-31-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33166)
Maybe the city holds the key.

I don't think all the cats were to happy with leo after they beat mummra. He went against them and not to mention the power he has with the stones.

Yeah a lot of the cats were probably happy with the old status quo under Mumm-ra, since the cats were clearly favored and Mummra told Leo/Lion-o that the other animals hated the cats as much as him.

Balgus82 01-31-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33165)
See I thought they were showing the four characters that will matter in the end. M/L/T/C.


But think on this.

Leo and Lion-O are both Lions. Tygus and Tygra are both Tigers.

Panthera and Cheetara are completely different types of cat from each other.

Even if Lion-O and Tygra are reincarnations I definitely don't think Cheetara is because she doesn't fit that pattern.

stormbringer 01-31-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33164)
I think his new alliance will get the stone for him.

Mummra better make sure he can trust his new alliance, it'd be pretty sad if he gets double crossed and loses out on a stone again.

Big Snarf 01-31-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33144)
No I don't. If only one person has the stones then all Mumm-Ra has to defeat is one person.

If the whole team shares the stones then he'll have to fight the whole team.

I doubt he can beat some one who has all the stones when he can't even beat lion-o when he only had the sword. The fact lion-o now has the spirit stone makes it less likely that he can beat lion-o, plus leo totally owned him in legacy when he had all three of them. If each cat has a stone it would be like captain planet with that "let our powers combine" nonsense

stormbringer 01-31-2012 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 33172)
I doubt he can beat some one who has all the stones when he can't even beat lion-o when he only had the sword. The fact lion-o now has the spirit stone makes it less likely that he can beat lion-o, plus leo totally owned him in legacy when he had all three of them. If each cat has a stone it would be like captain planet with that "let our powers combine" nonsense

You question the might of the almighty Mummra!?! Those blasted cats got lucky dang it!:p

L08e16o 01-31-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33168)
But think on this.

Leo and Lion-O are both Lions. Tygus and Tygra are both Tigers.

Panthera and Cheetara are completely different types of cat from each other.

Even if Lion-O and Tygra are reincarnations I definitely don't think Cheetara is because she doesn't fit that pattern.

We know we disagree with this.

So just let me say this and I will leave it alone with panthera.

I think they are a like, but I don't believe the writers were going to make her a cheetara. They couldn't pull of what they did in episode 13. It would be to obvious.

Big Snarf 01-31-2012 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33087)
Remember lion-o told Annet that tygra hasn't betrayed him and Annet's said he hasn't heard the bells.

Trying to kill lion-o is a betrayal. So lion-o did actually get betrayed as well as felt betrayed

L08e16o 01-31-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33167)
Yeah a lot of the cats were probably happy with the old status quo under Mumm-ra, since the cats were clearly favored and Mummra told Leo/Lion-o that the other animals hated the cats as much as him.

That is what I think. Leo betrayed the cats and now wants all the power for himself. I could see other cats using that.


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