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In order for Lion-O to hook up with Cheetara 100%, there are a couple of factors that must be eliminated first:
1. Cheetara’s conflicted feelings for both brothers 2. Tygra’s feelings for Cheetara 3. Tygra’s Jealousy of Lion-O getting Cheetara Having Pyumra comes along and get attracted to Tygra or both Tygra and Lion-O will help, but what if they already paired Pyumra with Bengali? This could lead to a verry messy Tetrangle Lion-O/Cheetara/Tygra/Pyumra/Bengali. Howly cow that will be a total mess:D, I cannot even think how to sort this out. Need to ask my writer friends again, but I have pissed off a lot of them by asking them their opinions on the triangle and possible outcome and theories, because most of them do not like cartoons, and they have to watch the tcats 1-13 to do it:D. They just doing it as a favor for me. |
I'll be off the grid for 24 hours, occupied with my projects. But this computer that I am using for this board will always be on. Keep up the good fight guys and gals, no matter what we are not loosing this Lion-O/Cheetara Ship War!:cool::D:D:D
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When I see the interaction between Lion-o and Cheetara I see a connection between more than just the lord of the tundercats and his cleric/bodyguard/teacher I see more than that beyond friends. This rule that clerics can't be intimate with a royal family member and can't be broken, I don't believe it one moment at all. I would bet there there has been instances through out the history of thunderian that a female cleric and a royal family member have gotten together for several days to months or years or permeantly.
Cheetara was flirting with lion-o from the beginning and I don't think it was unintentional she knew what she was doing. The episode of the song of the petalars really caught my attention. When they were in the really big super giant bush watch cheetara, when she was talking to lion-o and him having doubts she kept getting closer to lion-o and I believe she was reaching out to kiss him and not on the cheek. Cheetara brings up us, now the thing is that I'm 100 percent positive that when she was talking about us she wasn't talking about tygra and wilikit and kat she was talking just about her and lion-o and was oblivious to the others. Still thinking about cheetara lion-o I believe 100 percent that she is perfect for him and vice versa. Someone above mentioned that they thought that just because they don't show it that cheetara and lion-o have had several interactions and that tygra doesn't even know of those. |
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I agree with you here but I'm going to have to be bold here and even go farther than that and say that despite there being no evidence to this but this is my idea. I believe depsite no proof/evidence that jaga knew what was about to happen and that jaga was grooming cheetara for lion-o to be more than just his cleric/guard/teacher I think that jaga was grooming cheetara to be his future mate. |
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Mummra kissing tygra is not gay. They talk about bother and sisters kissing, well in other countries men kiss. Mummra needs some type of advantage. Romances take time to build. The writers are not going to show their hand right now. They will keep the readers or veiwers in the dark. It builds interest, so the fans will keep coming back. Look at it this way to, I think cheetara would pick duty before love. Meaning, she would make sure lion-o is ok and then go to tygra. |
[QUOTE=Given2u;24069][QUOTE]My love for anime has slowly die due to all the harem. I want better written stories. I watched TC, because that show is close to my heart. Lion-o was one of my favorite characters growing, Wolverine was my favorite.
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In the first episode, why was she following him around. It couldn't be to protect him. She would have reminded him about cermony. She was following him on her own accord. Also, she looked disgusted when tygra winked at her. All of a sudden she has a change of mind. Why did she show herself all of sudden? Cheetara has more integrity than any cat. I don't think she would pull a 180. Song of the petalars and legacy are the two episodes that made me think L/C is a done deal. We have each other and touches his hand. Come on. She likes him. She would have mention the other cats as you said. |
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I believe to unlock the the true power of the SoO, they will need each other. I think she knew while Jaga trained her, and that is what she chose along time ago. I think E13 was throw us off. If T/C was meant to be, they would have fleshed it out more. They have 39 episodes to work with. It is one thing to have a crush on someone, Love on the other hand takes time to build. They have been building that for 12 episodes until the last one. Tygra will get puymra or someone else. I believe he was a big hit with the ladies. Everyone loved tygra in the kingdom. Tygra could have had anyone. He was flirting with cheetara without knowing it was her. |
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All my friends watch sports. If they would have watched it, they would have kick their tv after they saw T/C kiss. They feel the same way we do. I think the writers will do the characters right. They just can't tell us. They have to keep us in suspense. I was PO'd when I saw the kiss too. When you told me it was 52 episodes, my thinking changed. |
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See for me I read alot of Cheetara/Lion-o romance fanfic especially the ones for this new series and I'd rather see on the show them getting together. |
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I much prefer Cheetara and Lion-0 and loved all the interaction they were getting up until this episode. I was gutted to see her kiss Tygra :( Guess we'll have to see what happens next! |
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One more thing. I think how cheetara looked at tygra after he winked at her told us the story how she feels. L/C will make more money, I think they will go that way. I think they will develop the romance. I think they did a good of a job building the relationship L/C and just crushing us in one episode. |
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I think there is more to it. |
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That is why it is so OOC. I don't think she would risk it. That is why there has to be more to it. Let say that is her and she saw lion-o standing there. What could she say. Whatever she had built with lion-o is gone. She can't be his body guard, cleric, or advisor anymore. How could he ever trust her. |
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From all of the episodes you see that she is the first to come to his defense, for example the flying bird or in legacy he uses the sword to summon or call and you see cheetara stand up and her eyes light up and she speed runs to him. I think that in episode 14 to a few episodes or so after you will see lion-o distancing himself from tygra and cheetara won't take her seriously along with ignoring her and I think everyone will notice this especially cheetara. Cheetara will try to talk to him and he will just ignore her even more but talk to her when he has to and I also think that tygra will notice as well and be concerned and him and lion-o will fight. Ugh don't even get me started on tygra and lion-o for one there is no way that lion-o would lose to tygra especially after using those moves from the drifter he learned. As I said before there is going to be a lot of tension and I'd bet that tygra will use the whole cheetara kissing him to undermine lion-o even more and if cheetara doesn't see that then she will have lost my respect for her even more. I for one liked the idea that a.) she was lion-o's personal bodyguard despite the others. b) she is there to be his teacher on the sword of omens and trains him and encourages him. c.) his anchor to keep him grounded. I know some might say that he needs to do all of this on his own, but I must say I know a few teenagers his age that are mature but are little lacking if you will on some things and are slow learners but don't have the patience for some things and again what she was doing was helping him as well as flirting and now that he feels betrayed he won't take her assistance at face value like he used to. |
Um, this is pretty much all about Lion-O's feelings and problems which do also matter, but what about Cheetara's feelings?
If she has honest feelings for Tygra should she just ignore them ? If so, then it sucks to be her. To have feelings for someone for years, finally get the chance to speak up on them, and then be forced to let them go. Sounds like it would hurt both Cheetara and Tygra. If you ask me the heroic thing would be if Lion-O accepted the way things are and aloud for them the opportunity to express how they feel. Sure it hurts, but I cant imagine him wanting to cause either of them pain. Cheetara's been there for him since the beginning, and he's just reached something good with his brother. Why let that go to waist over whats been portrayed as a mostly physical crush? I'm not expecting him to be honky dory next episode. I predict a lot of strife, but some of these suggestions would, IMO, make Lion-O look like a chump or a wuss. Lion-O should leave the group? What kind of king abandons his people? They've all devoted themselves to following him, even the reluctant Tygra. They are his soldiers, for him to leave them would be dishonorable. At the end of the day it is Lion-O who the sword chose to lead. He is the profit King . I should hope he act like it. I know he's only 17 and he's not the most mature cat out there. I expect him to be a little out of sorts next episode. We'll probably get an episode if not 14 then #15 in which we get a solo Lion-O journey. Probably something that will lead to him coming to terms with Cheetara and Tygra. |
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Yes, in that cheetara's voice actress interview, she was very specific on the words she used, she could say She will go for the higher good of those who are involved instead she specifically used the word highest good of all those involved. So your argument is a good valid one. But, I think cheetara's conflicted feelings will still be there, this is the key issue with cheetara's character, the writers made her really in a tight spot like my writers friends and you said. It won't be that easy for cheetara to get out of this one issue,darn it. I have collected a good amount of data for Lion-O character, not bad amount of data for cheetara's character, but for Tygra these are the only ones I could find: Jelenic Said: Tygra's the older adopted brother and from everyone's point of view in the kingdom, he's the one who should be king. He's the better fighter. He's the smarter of the two. So he overcompensates for the fact that he can't be king. He wants to show everybody that they're making a mistake by making Lion-O king just because Lion-O is part of the bloodline and only lions can be king in Thundera. So he has a chip on his shoulder. He resents his brother but still loves him. And through the first part of the series we see that dynamic play out; with Lion-O getting handed a position that Tygra doesn't think he deserves and Lion-O making missteps along the way that create tension between the two of them. And then of course there's a love triangle between those two and Cheetara. And Tygra wondering if he's going to lose out to his brother again when it comes to love Another one is Jelenic saying Tygra will but heads less with Lion-O after episode 13. And another one is what Tygra's voice actor said: He came from a very dark place. That's all I Have on Tygra, his a ghost on the net. Stealth is indeed his greatest strength. Been trying to analyze him so I could get a better view on the love triangle. I think out of the three theories I complied I would say it will be a mix between The Tygra mind illusuion theory and the Cheetara conflicted feelings theory. Sooner or Later either Lion-O will go solo or not he will tell cheetara his feelings, either cheetara will ask him first or Lion-O will tell her first. It will explode if he keep it inside, this I am sure. After knowing this cheetara will not say no to him this I am sure because she is conflicted in the first place and if she say no it will conflict with her voice actress's interview And based on my data and analysis the writers love to make complicated triangle. So of course I am hoping for Lion-O/Cheetara to hookup 100% but I will take the precentage increament slowly, What I think we will get for sure is at least (again based on all the research I did)we will get the Lion-O/Cheetara kissing scene sooner or later, and the Lion-O/Cheetara knowing each other's feelings. We have to take into account Tygra's prespective too, darn it his is the most difficult one. |
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For Lion-o not accepting it would not make him look weak, guys do that all the time. It is not like lion-o is some player that is on to the next game. Sometimes it is good to be alone, clear your head. |
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This to me is very telling and maybe I am overthinking it. When Cheetara goes with lion-o to the tech delear, the bell rangs and lion says he is late. He says maybe I will bail you out, he winks at her. They show her face and she liked that. When tygra winked at her, she was not too happy. I think that is a little telling. If jaga wanted her to do all that, that is tough. She is only 19. She didn't have to flirt with him to help him. She knew he liked her when they first met. He was staring at her and she notice. Who wouldn't feel betrayed. Most people would like the truth from the begining. |
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To me the producers did this on purpose. They wanted a rocky road for the two of them. I can see it better cause I am not as dissappointed after hearing 52 Es. Why just let lion-o have smooth sailing, they wanted to add layers. I hope 14 is a flash back of L/C. I think this is where tygra is a better cat than lion-o besides everything. If he sees his brother hurt and cheetara conflicted, I think he would be the better cat and let her go. I don't think lion-o would. This is his first big crush and someone that believes in him. That is big. Lion-o can try to get over it, but it will always be there. It either cause him to do something stupid or get someone hurt. I think the two winks are very telling. I am sure your writing friend would tell you, every little bit is a piece to the puzzle. |
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Yes but don't forget Jelenic also said Lion-O's feelings for Cheetara are strong. eventough he said Tygra wondering if he will loose again when it comes to love. Yes thye want to add layers, that's for sure. They want drama, Layers, conflict,etc,etc. |
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Hollowdheart asked the crew if lion-o loved cheetara, they said love is a strong word. I agree there. He went back and asked if cheetara loves tygra, they would not answer. You would think after watching E13, she does. That is telling. Everything from e1, she showed that she was very interested in lion-o. No matter what happens lion-o and cheetara are connected. I don't know if it is through the SoO or what. They have shown her eyes glow twice. Yeah the highest good is not to hurt anyone. Not blaming her. All it took was for her to walk by tygra and say you dropped this note and leave. The note could have said thank you and I will never forget you and have the heart of the flower. He would have know then. |
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I think everyone will be shock to find out that C/T are together, If that is what really happen. |
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I think your SOO connection with Lion-O and cheetara theory will come true it fits with everything I analyzed. |
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Truthfully, lion-o got the crown by default. If lion-o was not born, tygra would be king. Lion-o won nothing. Producers should be real about that. Also if thunderia was a democracy, tygra would have been king. Cheetara's heart would be the only thing that lion-o would beat tygra at. Right now, lion-o has not beat tygra at anything. |
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I will try to analyze Tygra's character. This will definitely be very difficult.
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That is why lion-o needs cheetara. I think with her, he can unlock the true power. He is not going to trust her, which I think will lead him to tell her. Tygra will probably be watching. What would suck is if cheetara tells lion-o, you are a good friend. I think they wanted to make it more complex, so they can to the characters. Again, they don't show their hand in E13. Usually it is in E20 when the romance starts blooming. |
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Does he remember what happen to his people? Did the lions do something to his people? What pushes him. I know he comes across as very confident. |
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And it will waste 11 episodes that they have made, Register does not like to waste money, the guy said it himself.:) |
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If cheetara did not show interest in lion-o or her special mentor sessions. Would tygra go after cheetara. He didn't seem interested until she was always close to lion-o. Did it become a contest after she was showing interest? I hated when lion-o said the best cat win. Loser. Did tygra not want L/C, because what happen in the past? |
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That is what kills me, why the first 11 Es. I know why, but come on man. |
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And also If cheetara only thinks Lion-O as only a good friend then Jelenic will not say Love triangle between the brothers and cheetara. Because you cannot have a Love triangle if one of the pairing is just good friends, and she does not need to choose, or used the word choose in Ep 13 if she only sees Lion-O as just a friend or brother. As for how the show handles sibling relationship look at Wilykat and Kit that's living proof how they handled Borther/Sister or good friends relationship. |
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You know what they call that what tygra did? It is two letters. That was my point with T/C. He showed no interst until he saw what was going on with L/C. T/C could have gone Romeo and Juliet. No one would have known. So what is behind the relationship with T/C. Is it because Tygra is/was jealous and is it guilt on cheetara side. L/C seemed stronger, there was no conflicted feelings that force them to have strong feeling for each other. So what is T/C relationship built on so far. |
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What did you think about what I said about T/C relationship, what drives it. |
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If not for all the building of E 1-12 and the producer saying if you invest in each episode you will get a little more. I would have been fine with E13. |
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