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Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26916)
Agreed.

If they had switch places L/C with T/C. I would have been fine with it.

I think that is what some tygra fans don't understand.

We are more upset with the writing then the characters.

but if that's true then why do you get so upset at me? i've agreed from the start that the writing wasn't handled right.

I've only tried to defend Tygra. you've been attacking the character not the writers.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26917)
i'll give an example to hopefully explain it to you better.

i'm a little jealous of my brother's family. I though i'd have a family by now, but I'm still single.

I'm also jealous that my parents listen to and respect my brother more than me.

but I am not jealous of my brother's family because my parents respect him more. they're two different things.

From a outsider point of view and I don't mean to offend you.

It sounds like it stems with your parents listening and respecting your brother more.

Everything you brother does now that you want will make you more jealous.

If I have offended you, I am very sorry.

stormbringer 01-01-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26916)
Agreed.

If they had switch places L/C with T/C. I would have been fine with it.

I think that is what some tygra fans don't understand.

We are more upset with the writing then the characters.

That last episode really did a diservice to both pairings to be honest. L/C fans felt like they were teased just as much as Lion-o, and T/C fans got a rushed unbelievable hook up with no build up whatsoever

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26919)
but if that's true then why do you get so upset at me? i've agreed from the start that the writing wasn't handled right.

I've only tried to defend Tygra. you've been attacking the character not the writers.

Sorry, I am not upset with you. I am sorry if my words come off that way.

Forgive me.

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26918)
I don't believe cheetara would have done that.

If you like someone you give them hints, like how cheetara was with lion-o.

You don't risk losing a person you like with those type of actions.

Cheetara is a good cat, that is not how she is. I don't believe she was playing lion-o, I believe she likes lion-o.

If there's no betrayal or "betayal" thing from anet Cheetara will go to Lion-O first then explain to Tygra that she has chosen Lion-O Or explain to both brothers at the same time with both of them present, as with this analysis:http://www.thundercats.ws/thundercat.../24/#post24715

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26872)
what has he lost that tygra hasn't?

Tygra had the love and respect of his fahter and the people of thunderia.

That is a lot. I was in the same situation with my family. Growing up that way really hurt me. It is something I still struggle with even though I am more successful then they are.

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 26921)
That last episode really did a diservice to both pairings to be honest. L/C fans felt like they were teased just as much as Lion-o, and T/C fans got a rushed unbelievable hook up with no build up whatsoever

There's a BIG IF there stormbringer as everything is vague. IF L/C did hook up.

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26918)
I don't believe cheetara would have done that.

If you like someone you give them hints, like how cheetara was with lion-o.

You don't risk losing a person you like with those type of actions.

Cheetara is a good cat, that is not how she is. I don't believe she was playing lion-o, I believe she likes lion-o.

not necessarily. if she thought tygra didn't like her, then she might not want him to know that she liked him. i.e. to protect herself. she didn't know he did until they came out of the astral plane.

how about this theory. she liked tygra since she was a kid (as attributed to the flower flashback), but she honestly thought for whatever reason that tygra didn't like her back. so she tried to move on with lion-o. but when she found out that tygra actually did like her back, she chose him.

so she could have genuinely liked lion-o, but liked tygra more and just didn't think he felt the same way. and she made the mistake of going to tygra first instead of lion-o, probably planning on telling him the next day or something.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 26923)
If there's no betrayal or "betayal" thing from anet Cheetara will go to Lion-O first then explain to Tygra that she has chosen Lion-O Or explain to both brothers at the same time with both of them present, as with this analysis:http://www.thundercats.ws/thundercat.../24/#post24715

That is what the highest good would be.

That is why I think it might be an illusion. Annet would have said lion-o would feel betrayed by cheetara and tygra.

If that is an illusion, tygra is not a loser.

I do that in my mine all the time to help me become numb to certain things. That helps me cope.

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26924)
Tygra had the love and respect of his fahter and the people of thunderia.

That is a lot. I was in the same situation with my family. Growing up that way really hurt me. It is something I still struggle with even though I am more successful then they are.

but don't forget tygra was also adopted, and we don't yet know how or why he lost his parents. what if they didn't want him and he knows it? then he'd have family that didn't love him as well.

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26927)
That is what the highest good would be.

That is why I think it might be an illusion. Annet would have said lion-o would feel betrayed by cheetara and tygra.

If that is an illusion, tygra is not a loser.

I do that in my mine all the time to help me become numb to certain things. That helps me cope.

Agreed.

stormbringer 01-01-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 26925)
There's a BIG IF there stormbringer as everything is vague. IF L/C did hook up.

Trust me I don't want a T/C hookup either. I'm just going with what it appeared to be.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26926)
not necessarily. if she thought tygra didn't like her, then she might not want him to know that she liked him. i.e. to protect herself. she didn't know he did until they came out of the astral plane.

how about this theory. she liked tygra since she was a kid (as attributed to the flower flashback), but she honestly thought for whatever reason that tygra didn't like her back. so she tried to move on with lion-o. but when she found out that tygra actually did like her back, she chose him.

so she could have genuinely liked lion-o, but liked tygra more and just didn't think he felt the same way. and she made the mistake of going to tygra first instead of lion-o, probably planning on telling him the next day or something.

That is good, but he winked at her in lion-o ceremony. She knew he liked her. That was a big disrepect to lion-o. He was being very bold.

They could have let each other know that they liked each other.

Cheetara's feelings were genuine. You can't just pull back and go to the other person like that.

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 26930)
Trust me I don't want a T/C hookup either. I'm just going with what it appeared to be.

I know I just need to stick it there.:D

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26931)
Cheetara's feelings were genuine. You can't just pull back and go to the other person like that.

Yes, cheetara as a character is definitely not a "seductress".

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26928)
but don't forget tygra was also adopted, and we don't yet know how or why he lost his parents. what if they didn't want him and he knows it? then he'd have family that didn't love him as well.

But all the years of acceptance and love would help someone overcome that.

We don't know how young he was too.

I think tygra is from another tribe and might be prince of that tribe.

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26931)
That is good, but he winked at her in lion-o ceremony. She knew he liked her.

They could have let each other know that they liked each other.

Cheetara's feelings were genuine. You can't just pull back and go to the other person like that.

the wink could've been something as simple as a greeting. lion-o's the one that assumed he was flirting. he could've misinterpreted it. it was a ceremony and tygra wouldn't have been able to say hi by speaking or waving.

and that's assuming he knew it was cheetara behind the veil in the first place. we don't know for sure that he did.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26867)
again. clerics are bodyguards. her "first job" as you put it isn't to be his girlfriend. it's to guard his life.

Her job is body guard, advisor. This has been her purpose so far.

Didn't say she has to be his girlfriend.

I am saying with tygra, she can't be cleric.

stormbringer 01-01-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 26925)
There's a BIG IF there stormbringer as everything is vague. IF L/C did hook up.

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26934)
But all the years of acceptance and love would help someone overcome that.

We don't know how young he was too.

I think tygra is from another tribe and might be prince of that tribe.

You think that could be how Ben-gali will come into the picture?

DarkKnight 01-01-2012 09:26 PM

nevermind

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26937)
Her job is body guard, advisor. This has been her purpose so far.

Didn't say she has to be his girlfriend.

I am saying with tygra, she can't be cleric.

why not? how would being with tygra stop her from saving lion-o or advising lion-o?

I mean I get that he'll have hurt feelings, but he's not going to kick her out of the group, so she'll still be there to give him advice. she hasn't hesitated so far to give people advise who weren't asking for it.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 26938)
You think that could be how Ben-gali will come into the picture?

It would be great in Ben-gali and tygra fight for the crown of their tribe.

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 26938)
You think that could be how Ben-gali will come into the picture?

I think they will tie bengali and the tribe with Lion-O's trial all the way to Native son for tygra, thus the Ep14 scenario I did back on this thread.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26940)
why not? how would being with tygra stop her from saving lion-o or advising lion-o?

I mean I get that he'll have hurt feelings, but he's not going to kick her out of the group, so she'll still be there to give him advice. she hasn't hesitated so far to give people advise who weren't asking for it.

She has taken jaga place. How can they ever have that trust.

Kings number one person that they trust is the advisor.

If tygra and lion-o were going to die, who do you think cheetara will save?

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:29 PM

I hope Tygra and Bengali aren't actually related. I do find it plausable that Tygra could be the heir of a different tribe. Captain Tygus (from legacy) could have split off from Leo and started his own kingdom.

AdamofEternia 01-01-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26926)
not necessarily. if she thought tygra didn't like her, then she might not want him to know that she liked him. i.e. to protect herself. she didn't know he did until they came out of the astral plane.

how about this theory. she liked tygra since she was a kid (as attributed to the flower flashback), but she honestly thought for whatever reason that tygra didn't like her back. so she tried to move on with lion-o. but when she found out that tygra actually did like her back, she chose him.

so she could have genuinely liked lion-o, but liked tygra more and just didn't think he felt the same way. and she made the mistake of going to tygra first instead of lion-o, probably planning on telling him the next day or something.

we can all argue back and forth but the only logical explanation is that the writers messed up by rushing the love triangle which resulted in a very disorganized way.

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26944)
She has taken jaga place. How can they ever have that trust.

Kings number one person that they trust is the advisor.

If tygra and lion-o were going to die, who do you think cheetara will save?

I think cheetara would choose to save Lion-O. she has a strong sense of duty.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26935)
the wink could've been something as simple as a greeting. lion-o's the one that assumed he was flirting. he could've misinterpreted it. it was a ceremony and tygra wouldn't have been able to say hi by speaking or waving.

and that's assuming he knew it was cheetara behind the veil in the first place. we don't know for sure that he did.

Come on, he knew who she was. That wink was for her, they could been a club.

This was a coming to age ceremony. That is a great disrespect in a lot of cultures.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26947)
I think cheetara would choose to save Lion-O. she has a strong sense of duty.

See that is unfair to tygra.

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26941)
It would be great in Ben-gali and tygra fight for the crown of their tribe.

Don't forget Pumyra bethored to Tygra;) Like you said way back.

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26948)
Come on, he knew who she was. That wink was for her, they could been a club.

This was a coming to age ceremony. That is a great disrespect in a lot of cultures.

it wasn't a coming of age ceremony. it was an ascension ceremony to see if lion-o was ready to be king. sorta like a preface to a coronation i think.

and I mean I think he knew it was her. I'm only relating the possibility that he didn't. because we really don't know for sure.

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26948)
Come on, he knew who she was. That wink was for her, they could been a club.

This was a coming to age ceremony. That is a great disrespect in a lot of cultures.

Tygra is smart, he knows cheetara is in the clerics. If not then Cheetara should know Tygra, and if she wanted too she can star a relationship or at least try to start a relationship with Tygra.

Why? because she already choose Lion-O this time with the Cheetara SoO Chip Connection Theory.:D

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26951)
it wasn't a coming of age ceremony. it was an ascension ceremony to see if lion-o was ready to be king.

and I mean I think he knew it was her. I'm only relating the possibility that he didn't. because we really don't know for sure.

That is BIG.

It was confirm tygra knew that was cheetara. Lion-o didn't.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 26952)
Tygra is smart, he knows cheetara is in the clerics. If not then Cheetara should know Tygra, and if she wanted too she can star a relationship or at least try to start a relationship with Tygra.

Why? because she already choose Lion-O this time with the Cheetara SoO Chip Connection Theory.:D

You are correct.

they had 8 years.

If the war didn't happen, Cheetara would have been with lion-o.

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26949)
See that is unfair to tygra.

life isn't fair. in that situation it would always be unfair to one of the people. if she chose tygra it would be unfair to lion-o.

if both were in danger, even if she had feelings for tygra, i believe cheetara would do her duty and save the king.

DarkKnight 01-01-2012 09:35 PM

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Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26953)
That is BIG.

It was confirm tygra knew that was cheetara. Lion-o didn't.

where was it confirmed?

stormbringer 01-01-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 26950)
Don't forget Pumyra bethored to Tygra;) Like you said way back.

Would we be heading towards a Tygra/Pumyra/Bengali triangle then?

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 26958)
Would we be heading towards a Tygra/Pumyra/Bengali triangle then?

god I hope not. this one has caused enough of a headache without another.

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26954)
You are correct.

they had 8 years.

8 fricking long years for L/C to happen! but it did not! unbelievable!:rolleyes:

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26955)
life isn't fair. in that situation it would always be unfair to one of the people. if she chose tygra it would be unfair to lion-o.

if both were in danger, even if she had feelings for tygra, i believe cheetara would do her duty and save the king.

If she stays with tygra, then she needs to give up her duties as cleric.

I would never want my wife or lover to put her life on the line of another man.

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 26958)
Would we be heading towards a Tygra/Pumyra/Bengali triangle then?

Possibility, Jelenic and Register like it as they like to lengthen ships.

It could be something like:

Main Ship: Lion-O/Cheetara
Sub Main Ship Tygra/.Pumyra/Bengali

like I posted way back in this thread

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 26960)
8 fricking long years for L/C to happen! but it did not! unbelievable!:rolleyes:

If feel so strong about someone that long, you go for it.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26959)
god I hope not. this one has caused enough of a headache without another.

I would love it.

What did tygra and pumyra do on earth for all those years. They had to keep their speices alive. :D

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26963)
If feel so strong about someone that long, you go for it.

But No, she has to wait for anet to say the betrayal or "Betrayal" propecies.:rolleyes:

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 26957)
where was it confirmed?

cmangund confirmed when cheetara came out of her cleric clothes, it was lion-o that said cheetara is a cleric.

Tygra already knew, he wasn't suprised.

Balgus82 01-01-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26961)
If she stays with tygra, then she needs to give up her duties as cleric.

I would never want my wife or lover to put her life on the line of another man.

do you think none of the secret service are married? they'd still jump infront of a bullet for the president or the first lady.

L08e16o 01-01-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 26965)
But No, she has to wait for anet to say the betrayal or "Betrayal" propecies.:rolleyes:

Yep, that was her clue from the great heavens.:rolleyes:

cmangund 01-01-2012 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26966)
cmangund confirmed when cheetara came out of her cleric clothes, it was lion-o that said cheetara is a cleric.

Tygra already knew, he wasn't suprised.

Yup the crew confirmed that Lion-O who said "Cheetara, she's a cleric?"

stormbringer 01-01-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 26961)
If she stays with tygra, then she needs to give up her duties as cleric.

I would never want my wife or lover to put her life on the line of another man.

Not only that, but I imagine there'd probably be a lot of jealousy on Tygras part. We've seen Cheetaras special brand of encouraging Lion-o afterall, I don't think Tygra will be able to take too Mich of that!


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