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Balgus82 01-05-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 28533)
Nah not jean. The cancelled the show just before the age of apocalypse it never made it to a season 2

I don't think they'll cancel Thundercats anytime soon. I mean things could always change, but from what Dan Norton posted on FB a couple months back they're pretty much confirmed for at least 52 episodes.

"So I guess it's out of the bag.... Looks like ThunderCats will be on TV for awhile."
then further down
"52 a go"

http://www.facebook.com/Dingo107/pos...50389139280909

L08e16o 01-05-2012 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28538)
I don't think they'll cancel Thundercats anytime soon. I mean things could always change, but from what Dan Norton posted on FB a couple months back they're pretty much confirmed for at least 52 episodes.

They killed my big O.:(

Have they paid for the other 26 episodes?

Big Snarf 01-05-2012 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28534)
Just brainstorming I haven't figured out all the details yet I'm afraid. Maybe the using the stone in conjunction with his mind powers,could let him sense the locations of the others?

He'll steal the book

stormbringer 01-05-2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28539)
They killed my big O.:(

Have they paid for the other 26 episodes?

I never did understand the ending to big O. Reminded me of Evangelion, I didn't know what the hell was going on!

Balgus82 01-05-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 28540)
He'll steal the book

The book wouldn't do him any good without the Thundertank to integrate it with. Only Lion-O can go inside (as far as we know) and they only see the map when it's connected to the tank.

L08e16o 01-05-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28541)
I never did understand the ending to big O. Reminded me of Evangelion, I didn't know what the hell was going on!

That was CN's fault. The first 13 was made in japan and CN made the last 13.

Angel was the new director. That is why I wanted the show to go on, there was so much unexplained. It seem liked the director could create Paradigm City the way they wanted and make the memories the way they wanted.

I never knew if Roger Smith was a android.

L08e16o 01-05-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28541)
I never did understand the ending to big O. Reminded me of Evangelion, I didn't know what the hell was going on!

Evangelion, the writer was battling depression when he wrote that. It was kind of a story about him.

They made movies and they explain it better.

Shinji's father was trying to play god.

I just wanted Rei to live.

Big Snarf 01-05-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28539)
They killed my big O.:(

Have they paid for the other 26 episodes?

season 2 for wolverine and the xmen was a go and then it got canned

L08e16o 01-05-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 28545)
season 2 for wolverine and the xmen was a go and then it got canned

Thanks.

It is all about the money. Money is tight, so they will not risk it if it is not pullng in money.

stormbringer 01-05-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28539)
They killed my big O.:(

Have they paid for the other 26 episodes?

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28544)
Evangelion, the writer was battling depression when he wrote that. It was kind of a story about him.

They made movies and they explain it better.

Shinji's father was trying to play god.

Ah, thanks I never saw the movie only the series.

ji28 01-05-2012 10:55 PM

Hello go by again and I read his after and on star wars what I meant is that to for to put the secondary character with the center of the triangle they turned the center and main character into family.

if it ensues with give it the kiss without utilizing theories since cheetara bothers the tygra, is another way to see her, cheetara decided to lose what was won with lion-o or to hold together the group, she knows when happens treason not the correct hour but one brought near and she decides to betray lion-o or instead of his brother, you know than the you can forgive her when the time comes and that they need tygra, but at that point in the than panthro this wounded.

And I am them told that he is not that way look at the ep 13 to the start when they talk about the astral diagram, cheetara looks upset and pensive.

Cheetara's action as I put her you seem in agreement with the interviews.;)

cmangund 01-05-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28547)
Thanks.

It is all about the money. Money is tight, so they will not risk it if it is not pullng in money.

And they can make more money with Lion-O/Cheetara definetly:D

L08e16o 01-05-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28548)
Ah, thanks I never saw the movie only the series.

I think there will be 4 or 5 movies.

L08e16o 01-05-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28550)
And they can make more money with Lion-O/Cheetara definetly:D

And sell more toys.

That is the safe angle to go. :)

DarkKnight 01-05-2012 11:02 PM

Was up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

L08e16o 01-05-2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ji28 (Post 28549)
Hello go by again and I read his after and on star wars what I meant is that to for to put the secondary character with the center of the triangle they turned the center and main character into family.

if it ensues with give it the kiss without utilizing theories since cheetara bothers the tygra, is another way to see her, cheetara decided to lose what was won with lion-o or to hold together the group, she knows when happens treason not the correct hour but one brought near and she decides to betray lion-o or instead of his brother, you know than the you can forgive her when the time comes and that they need tygra, but at that point in the than panthro this wounded.

And I am them told that he is not that way look at the ep 13 to the start when they talk about the astral diagram, cheetara looks upset and pensive.

Cheetara's action as I put her you seem in agreement with the interviews.;)


As it was pointed out to me, they came back from the AP in the daylight.

Cheetara went to tygra right before the evening bell rings, that was planned.

As you said her face was upset when she heard Annet tell her about lion-o feeling betrayal.

stormbringer 01-05-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28553)
Was up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Back from protecting Gotham city, Dark Knight?:D

DarkKnight 01-05-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28557)
Back from protecting Gotham city, Dark Knight?:D

yeah and eating dinner.

L08e16o 01-05-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28553)
Was up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you use the batmobile?:)

cmangund 01-05-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ji28 (Post 28549)
Hello go by again and I read his after and on star wars what I meant is that to for to put the secondary character with the center of the triangle they turned the center and main character into family.

if it ensues with give it the kiss without utilizing theories since cheetara bothers the tygra, is another way to see her, cheetara decided to lose what was won with lion-o or to hold together the group, she knows when happens treason not the correct hour but one brought near and she decides to betray lion-o or instead of his brother, you know than the you can forgive her when the time comes and that they need tygra, but at that point in the than panthro this wounded.

And I am them told that he is not that way look at the ep 13 to the start when they talk about the astral diagram, cheetara looks upset and pensive.

Cheetara's action as I put her you seem in agreement with the interviews.;)

Agreed.

DarkKnight 01-05-2012 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28561)
Did you use the batmobile?:)

the batwing. My baby(car) just got a new paint job

L08e16o 01-05-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28563)
the batwing. My baby(car) just got a new paint job

Real car?

DarkKnight 01-05-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28567)
Real car?

unfortunately, no :(

Big Snarf 01-05-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28542)
The book wouldn't do him any good without the Thundertank to integrate it with. Only Lion-O can go inside (as far as we know) and they only see the map when it's connected to the tank.

The book should work without the tank at least the magic part of it as it is both tech and magic

cmangund 01-05-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 28570)
The book should work without the tank at least the magic part of it as it is both tech and magic

I think the book will also work with the thundercycle. In Ep 10 Lion-O and Tygra uses the Thundercyle to go to the direction pointed by the book. Should Lion-O go solo in Ep14 he can ripped the slot from the tank and put it on the thundercyle. Or he can built a similar one on the thundercycle as the thundercyle has the radar too and onboard Multifunctional displays and the same tech as the thunderthank.

DarkKnight 01-05-2012 11:37 PM

Uh Im so upset.

L08e16o 01-05-2012 11:38 PM

Tygra could always act as he is working for mummra and get the stones himself. Like Leo did.

L08e16o 01-05-2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28576)
Uh Im so upset.

Why???

DarkKnight 01-05-2012 11:39 PM

The chances of me getting the 4 inch cheetara are impossible.

L08e16o 01-05-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28579)
The chances of me getting the 4 inch cheetara are impossible.

Why??

cmangund 01-05-2012 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28576)
Uh Im so upset.

keep calm darknight. meditate.

DarkKnight 01-05-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28580)
Why??

Ive searched everywhere.................no luck what so ever

DarkKnight 01-05-2012 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28581)
keep calm darknight. meditate.

you're right

L08e16o 01-05-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28582)
Ive searched everywhere.................no luck what so ever

At some point they will be on E-bay.

DarkKnight 01-05-2012 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28584)
At some point they will be on E-bay.

I dont know, Im just confused

stormbringer 01-06-2012 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28553)
Was up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28585)
I dont know, Im just confused

Sorry. Have you tried amazon.com?

cmangund 01-06-2012 01:13 AM

Looks like Jan 20 is also a no go, Generator Rex is still taking the time slot for Tcats. Jan 27 will also be a no go, I think. So maybe we will get Tcats in February.

Balgus82 01-06-2012 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28555)
As it was pointed out to me, they came back from the AP in the daylight.

Cheetara went to tygra right before the evening bell rings, that was planned.

As you said her face was upset when she heard Annet tell her about lion-o feeling betrayal.

That doesn't necessarily mean it was planned. Lion-O had thought the vision had been wrong before he went to the elephant to talk. He had either lost track of time or completely forgot about the bell. Who's to say the same didn't happen to Cheetara?

Plus...well if Cheetara didn't go to him then there would've been no "betrayal" at all.

Balgus82 01-06-2012 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28574)
I think the book will also work with the thundercycle. In Ep 10 Lion-O and Tygra uses the Thundercyle to go to the direction pointed by the book. Should Lion-O go solo in Ep14 he can ripped the slot from the tank and put it on the thundercyle. Or he can built a similar one on the thundercycle as the thundercyle has the radar too and onboard Multifunctional displays and the same tech as the thunderthank.

They were already headed in the direction the book was telling them to go when they got on the cycles and they knew they were close by.

stormbringer 01-06-2012 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28598)
Looks like Jan 20 is also a no go, Generator Rex is still taking the time slot for Tcats. Jan 27 will also be a no go, I think. So maybe we will get Tcats in February.

Oh well, that's CN for you.;)

cmangund 01-06-2012 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 28606)
Oh well, that's CN for you.;)

Yeah darn it.

Since it still ways to go before Ep 14 airs I will just edit out the dreaded Ep 13 ending scene. So the Ep13 that I will watch is the edited version where it ended at the Lion-O talking to Anet scene during the victory party then cut to the credits roll (I will re-arrange the sound as well so the sound cut will be smooth). That way I can re-watch Ep1-13 without problems.:D

L08e16o 01-06-2012 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28600)
That doesn't necessarily mean it was planned. Lion-O had thought the vision had been wrong before he went to the elephant to talk. He had either lost track of time or completely forgot about the bell. Who's to say the same didn't happen to Cheetara?

Plus...well if Cheetara didn't go to him then there would've been no "betrayal" at all.

It is because lion-o loves and believes in his brother. He forgot abou the bell.

You are not giving Cheetara enough credit. She heard Annet's prediction, and you could see her face as being upset and to me she was thinking. She timed it right. Her going to tygra was to prevent the betrayal, she just didn't know lion-o was going to be there.

Who is more level headed, lion-o or cheetara? Cheetara is very clever.

Annet would have said lion-o would've felt betrayal by both tygra and cheetara.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 28613)
Yeah darn it.

Since it still ways to go before Ep 14 airs I will just edit out the dreaded Ep 13 ending scene. So the Ep13 that I will watch is the edited version where it ended at the Lion-O talking to Anet scene during the victory party then cut to the credits roll (I will re-arrange the sound as well so the sound cut will be smooth). That way I can re-watch Ep1-13 without problems.:D

Smart, why torture youself.

Balgus82 01-06-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28634)
It is because lion-o loves and believes in his brother. He forgot abou the bell.

You are not giving Cheetara enough credit. She heard Annet's prediction, and you could see her face as being upset and to me she was thinking. She timed it right. Her going to tygra was to prevent the betrayal, she just didn't know lion-o was going to be there.

Who is more level headed, lion-o or cheetara? Cheetara is very clever.

Annet would have said lion-o would've felt betrayal by both tygra and cheetara.

why would she wait? if that was why she was there why would she wait until the last minute to stop the betrayal?

She couldn't do anything until after they left the AP, but as I've said before when she finally went to him it was later than they came out.

You're basically saying that she was focused on stopping the betrayal when she went to him. If she was doing that why would she wait til the very last minute to stop the betrayal and only go when Tygra is completely alone and showing absolutely no signs of betraying anyone?

If I was her and I was focused on stopping someone from betraying Lion-O I'd stick to Lion-O's side to protect him until the time was up.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28640)
why would she wait? if that was why she was there why would she wait until the last minute to stop the betrayal?

She couldn't do anything until after they left the AP, but as I've said before when she finally went to him it was later than they came out.

You're basically saying that she was focused on stopping the betrayal when she went to him. If she was doing that why would she wait til the very last minute to stop the betrayal and only go when Tygra is completely alone and showing absolutely no signs of betraying anyone?

If I was her and I was focused on stopping someone from betraying Lion-O I'd stick to Lion-O's side until the time was up to protect him.

Annet's prediction are never wrong, so if she went to him rigth away, she still risks of him betraying lio-o at the evening bells. Come on, why would she go to him early?

Who is more trust worthy, Tygra or Annet. I think Annet is. Who thought tygra would kick lion-o in the pit again. I didn't.

You go to the source. How was she suppose to know how tygra would betray lion-o. Let just say, if tygra went to mummra, her staying with lion-o is not going to stop the betrayal. Why not go there when it is about to happen and stop it.

Every movie I see about predictions, people go right before it happens to change the course of the event.

So if she stays with lion-o then the betrayal still happens at the evening bells. It was going to happen in some way. Annet is never wrong.

Balgus82 01-06-2012 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28641)
Annet's prediction are never wrong, so if she went to him rigth away, she still risks of him betraying lio-o at the evening bells. Come on, why would she go to him early?

Who is more trust worthy, Tygra or Annet. I think Annet is. Who thought tygra would kick lion-o in the pit again. I didn't.

You go to the source. How was she suppose to know how tygra would betray lion-o. Let just say, if tygra went to mummra, her staying with lion-o is not going to stop the betrayal. Why not go there when it is about to happen and stop it.

Every movie I see about predictions, people go right before it happens to change the course of the event.

So if she stays with lion-o then the betrayal still happens at the evening bells. It was going to happen in some way. Annet is never wrong.

All Anet said was that it would happen before the Bell rang. He didn't say it would happen 2 seconds before the bell rang. She couldn't have known precisely what moment it would happen. There was a wide window between when he gave the prediction and when the bell actually rang.

And as for who is more trustworthy, If I was her I would trust the person I've known almost a decade over the person I've only known a few days.


"Anet is ever wrong." Why would she think she could stop it in the first place? How would she stop it?

Assuming the kiss was just a thank you, how would a thank you kiss to Tygra stop him from betraying Lion-O? If he was going to betray Lion-O it wouldn't have been because a girl didn't thank him 8 years ago.

nitewing73 01-06-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 28585)
I dont know, Im just confused

They are starting to show up at Target stores if that helps. And I think she's on Amazon.com.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28643)
All Anet said was that it would happen before the Bell rang. He didn't say it would happen 2 seconds before the bell rang. She couldn't have known precisely what moment it would happen. There was a wide window between when he gave the prediction and when the bell actually rang.

And as for who is more trustworthy, If I was her I would trust the person I've known almost a decade over the person I've only known a few days.


"Anet is ever wrong." Why would she think she could stop it in the first place? How would she stop it?

Assuming the kiss was just a thank you, how would a thank you kiss to Tygra stop him from betraying Lion-O? If he was going to betray Lion-O it wouldn't have been because a girl didn't thank him 8 years ago.

It would be different if Cheetara would've never heard the prediction. She knew when the bells were going to ring, that is why she waited.

So Annet had to say cheetara at 7:59:56, lion-o will feel betrayal by tygra.

How much does she know about tygra. Annet is peace loving and honest. He has never shown any negative signs like tygra. She knows about tygra's jealousy.

Cheetara's first job is to protect the king, she was trying to help the situation. If you knew about the prediction and didn't act, you would be just as guilty as the person betraying.

In her mind, she stopped the betrayal at the even bells. She said she felt little responsible for what happen in the AP, if she felt guilty, why wouldn't she try to stop the betrayal.

Well it seems tygra went into the AP because some girl didn't thank him and kicked lion-o down a pit.

Balgus82 01-06-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 28647)
It would be different if Cheetara would've never heard the prediction. She knew when the bells were going to ring, that is why she waited.

How much does she know about tygra. Annet is peace loving and honest. He has never shown any negative signs like tygra. She knows about tygra's jealousy.

Cheetara's first job is to protect the king, she was trying to help the situation. If you knew about the prediction and didn't act, you would be just as guilty as the person betraying.

In her mind, she stopped the betrayal at the even bells. She said she felt little responsible for what happen in the AP, if she felt guilty, why wouldn't she try to stop the betrayal.

Well it seems tygra went into the AP because some girl didn't thank him and kicked lion-o down a pit.

She's known Tygra for years. She's been around him every day for months. She knows him and knows why he's jealous. Anet is just a guy she met a few days before. He could've easily been working for Mumm-Ra the whole time to sow discontent (I don't actually believe he was I'm just saying it's completely possible). Point is she doesn't know Anet and she does know Tygra.

I would trust someone I know, even with their faults, over someone I had just met because you don't know the person you just met. Just because someone acts nice doesn't necessarily mean they aren't hiding anything.

Maybe you're right in that if she was trying to stop the betrayal she wouldn't follow Lion-O around, but if that's the case she would be following Tygra around. There would've been no need to walk up to him and talk. If she really suspected Tygra of betraying Lion-O the smarter thing would've been to hide in the shadows to watch him.

Cheetara isn't the only reason he was fighting Lion-O in the AP. And his jealousy was because he thought she liked Lion-O, not because she didn't thank him for a flower. If she had thanked him, and he still thought Lion-O had "won" her he would still be jealous. It wouldn't stop anything.

L08e16o 01-06-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 28649)
She's known Tygra for years. She's been around him every day for months. She knows him and knows why he's jealous. Anet is just a guy she met a few days before. He could've easily been working for Mumm-Ra the whole time to sow discontent (I don't actually believe he was I'm just saying it's completely possible). Point is she doesn't know Anet and she does know Tygra.

I would trust someone I know, even with their faults, over someone I had just met because you don't know the person you just met. Just because someone acts nice doesn't necessarily mean they aren't hiding anything.

Maybe you're right in that if she was trying to stop the betrayal she wouldn't follow Lion-O around, but if that's the case she would be following Tygra around. There would've been no need to walk up to him and talk. If she really suspected Tygra of betraying Lion-O the smarter thing would've been to hide in the shadows to watch him.

Cheetara isn't the only reason he was fighting Lion-O in the AP. And his jealousy was because he thought she liked Lion-O, not because she didn't thank him for a flower. If she had thanked him, and he still thought Lion-O had "won" her he would still be jealous. It wouldn't stop anything.

I would trust other people that have shown good intentions over my own family. Why wouldn't she trust him when his predictions are 100% and he helped lion-o with SBS.

What Cheetara did was smart, she went to the source and dealt with it. If she was in the shadow, she won't prevent the betrayal. Tygra would've betrayed lion-o what would cheetara been able to do? Call him out for it, that will make it worse. Take care of the issue instead of letting it fester.

What did tygra really want from cheetara, he wanted her to recognize what he did years ago. I bet you that was more on his heart than her chosing him. He was already to move on. I think since cheetara thanked him, tygra can move on. The crown is different. Maybe when tygra thinks lion-o is worthy of his respect, things will change.

I don't know how they will handle tygra the rest of the way, but maybe the events in the AP (like you said) and the flower (something else from his past) will help him overcome his jealousy.


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