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Bringing in another female character simply for the sake of resolving the triangle is unfair to that character, they should have their own personality outside of "Lion-O's girlfriend." The best way to resolve the triangle is to have Lion-O get over Cheetarah and move on with his life (which it looks like they may do, Lion-O works through a lot of his issues with her in the second trial). He could still be lonely, but shouldn't be moping over her all the time. Only after that should they introduce his possible love interest.
If they bring in Pumyra to be Lion-O's love interest (Which many of us think they are) They should establish her personality before the pair them off, and the reasons she falls for him should be very clear. I've tried to do that myself in my proposed theories for "The Pit" (Wheres Cheetarah fell in love with Tygra over a flower, Pumyra falls for Post-Trials Lion-O because of his inner nobility and sense of self-sacrifice). |
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I think Pumyra will only serve as a device for the triangle. Cheetara might be get jealous and they have to fight. You really don't want L/C. |
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You are picking every little thing apart, but you are forgetting to pick apart what pertains to Lion-O as well. He's not above reproach, he did make bad calls, and any plot holes and writing inconsistencies affect him just as they do the rest. |
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Is it necessary to arrive to another broom closet before using sight beyond sight? He just learned the skill, he should be using it. (This is not relevant but I know I wouldn't give the sword any time off. Anyone else?) He should have been curious and want to know, instead of sulking and -again- playing the king card. The team was in doubt, why not quell those doubts with SBS? It's there for his use, and he's the only one who can use it. But no, you do what I say, I say up we go, and the rest is history. Where do you get the idea that they wouldn't have believed him if he had used SBS? They did when he said they were going back to the elephant village. The only difference now is that Lion-O is behaving, well, like the kid he is. I am confident the trials will take that out and he'll return to win the minds and hearts of his team to his cause (for the goal is the same but so far he's alone as to how to accomplish it), not just to order them around based on the fact that they just should do everything he says. |
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The ONLY situation where a bodyguard should protect the next in line over her actual charge is if her charge tells her to, or her charge is OBVIOUSLY not able to be saved. That did not happen here; she abandoned Lion-o to save her boyfriend. They make that clear in the episode. You're arguing a point that not even the writers made. Yes, but the key is the WHOLE SCENE was written badly. The king acted like an idiot for no reason, his people ignored and insulted him, the fight was badly written and involved everyone forgetting their powers, Cheetara abandoned her job for her boyfriend, etc., etc. There's a point where you stop analyzing a scene and just admit the writers did terribly. I still like the show, and I live in hope that it can realize it's obvious potential, but nearly every episode there's at least one scene that seems to have been written by a twelve year old. And in this episode it was the fight on the cliff. You aren't seriously doing all this because you're a tygra fan are you? I mean, fair enough, but liking a character shouldn't blind you to poor writing. I want Tygra to grow into a great character as well, kind of the Ken to Lion-o's Ryu, but they can do that without writing Lion-o as a punk. |
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I think they are showing that cheetara can't be a cleric and be the girlfriend of tygra at the same time. Which one will she choose. We can argue if lion-o made the right choice, but she choose to help tygra and lion-o was by himself. You can say in away he died because of it. |
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For all we know, the stone might be in the sky. |
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They like to use mirrors. |
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I so wanted the scene last episode where lion-o says he's happy for them to be true. Because it shows how easily they COULD get along, but then he instantly throws it out. They could at least have him TRY to be happy but then show us in monologue or alone scenes that he's really struggling with it or something, instead of just having him be a dick to both of them. And that is one of the reasons I'd like some new cats. Maybe Pumyra likes Lion-o because he saves her. Simple as that, she's in his corner. Just having someone he could rely on would be nice. He's completely alone now. In the first 'season' Cheetarah was sort of his 'friend/comrade' but now she's complicated. He needs someone he can rely on without line of succession/age/romance problems. Maybe Bengali? Having a buddy for him would be nice. And Pumyra could either be this or a love interest, or both eventually. |
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No, I really don't want Lion-O/Cheetarah. I think it's something that served its purpose and its time to move on. Regarding Lion-O and Tygra, Lion-Odoes need a buddy, but I think that buddy should be Tygra. In order for this show to move to the next level and become truly great they need to become more than just brothers, they need to be bros, which is something completely different. |
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In most cartoons/animes I've seen, you wanna know how a girl honestly feels for a guy, bring in compatition and observe the reaction. It'll confirm weither or not she truely made her choice yet. On that same coin, it would also confirm she's 100% sold out to Tygra if she smiles and is happy for them, or even attempts to help them along. |
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Cheetara would never give lion-o that type of kiss. He only got a peck. This is how triangles go. Heck some animes have a love triangle the series. |
I was wondering, it seems like episodes after trials part 2 deal with other characters (Finally).
17. Tyra 18. Kids 19. Cheetara? 20. Panthro? |
In my opinion, writing Lion-o to revert back to his older self after the realization that he was not the object of Cheetarah's affection is...logical. He's had a severe crippling of his ego and he's still a teenager(I think). I felt that Tygra being an ass about stealing the fruit was also appropriate, given the ego BOOST he got. That said, where I felt the writing fell was when he was doing the "Cheetarah" trial, Figment Cheetarah kisses him, and he's reacting to her like she's the real Cheetarah. Even if the stone was using that to manipulate him, for him to not treat the figments as...figments bothers me. Perhaps he's just too immersed in the situation, but it's still very odd and a little disheartening. Also, the "Follow Your Nose" trick in the first one for instincts and the random appearance of a bird that he could ride were breaks in the story for me. If he'd climbed to the top and ran along that, that would have been far more dramatic in my mind(Even though they couldn't show much if any blood from the thorns, he could have winced and groaned, showing that the best path is not always the easiest), and the bird would have been a 'hint' more than a 'tool'.
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The more I think about it, this is apart of the love triangle. |
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Hey, need to start the triangle, flashback. We need lion-o to die, no cats are around. We need them to escape, tygra thinks up something unlike 14. |
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The Cats have no confidence in Lion-O. Although it seemed like the Lord of the Thundercats was learning from his experiences in previous episodes, after seeing Tygra and Cheetara kiss it all went to crap. Now Lion-O is just a whiny bitch and the rest of the team are fed up with him. Hopefully he'll be a bit more mature when he comes back to life, although by then Tygra will have established himself as a real leader.
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Personally if I was Lion-O, after hearing everyone's reservations on climbing the cliff, what I would've done is first use SBS to see where the stone was. Then if it still looked like it was up on the cliff I would've sent Kit and Kat on their hoverboards (or borrowed them and went myself) to scout it out before sending the whole group up.
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Why wasn't SBS used? Lion-O can only get a clear message while he is calm and focused which the Elephant Monk explained. As of right now, he wouldn't be able to get the full use since he has Cheetara and Tygra kissing in his head.
It goes further to prove that Lion-O is the one allowing such an unimportant issue to hinder his ability to complete their mission. |
at times i question if these thundercats really give a damn about uniting the animals and saving their world from mum-ra. the freaking book of omens pointed them the right way but for some insane reason they start to question whether they're going the right way. i believe there was no reason to question liono and especially the book of omens. since when the does the book of omens lie about something. i know liono can be a brat most of the time but in this particular situation he was right, heck they all saw the book point upwards. i would not be surprised if tygra doubted liono but the rest of the cats doing the same makes no sense. cheetara especially had no reason to complain because her of all people should understand how powerful the book of omens is. also ever since cheetara got with tygra, all the support/advice she used to give liono has been cut off and she seems to talk to him anyway now.
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As for why now, I think his latest attitude is just the drop that made the cup run over. This has been building for a while, and what could be excused at first apparently can't anymore. Whatever. I'm not the writer's keeper, we just have to work with what we're given. What's obvious to me is that they don't want to blindly follow him, and they shouldn't. A true leader is not somebody who is followed and obeyed just because of a birthright. |
It's not a matter of questioning the Book of Omens, but the decisions and methods Lion-O uses to complete the quest at hand.
The lives of the group rely on them working together and their trust in the capabilities of the leader to handle the job. Right now, Lion-O isn't a great leader. He's still learning on the job and lacks the discipline to keep a cool head. So more often than not, he'll make rookie mistakes and bad calls which under these circumstances is more dangerous, risky, and costly; since lives are on the line. |
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It seems like all they ever do is criticise Lion-o, even when he's right. It bugs the crap out of me the way they were all ganging up on him at the candyfruit tree. If they have a better solution voice it instead of complaining the whole way. I also love how Panthro waits until they are halfway up the mountain to say this could be an ambush. Half of what these writers come up with completely idiotic and defies logic. Honestly the only ones that don't annoy me at this point are the kittens. Hopefully everyone will learn to appreciate Lion-o a little more when he comes back. Of course I'm sure they will go the other way with "Hey Tygra was a better leader than you" because its more DRAMATIC. At the rate they are going I almost hope the show gets canned. With that said, I did enjoy the first two trials.
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