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Big Snarf 01-14-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30611)
I think it all depends on what the writers make lion-o do.

Will he go solo, that makes the most sense. I don't see him laying down like a dog. I think the next 3 will deal with L/C.

He doesn't have to go solo that would be acting too childlike and show no growth in his character . If he mans up and accepts the choice that cheetara has made would be the right thing to in respecting her choice and he can keep some dignity be not looking like a crybaby because the choice wasn't in his favor. He was shocked at the end of ep 13 but he can move on

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30652)
Darn the truth was Cheetara/Snarf all along! the little weasel:D snarf is indeed the true masters of evil:D

Yeah he is just look at how he is laughing at panthro's handicap in ep 13

stormbringer 01-14-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30651)
That won't happen lion-o most likely won't die at any point in the show. What annet can say is "tygra tomorrow you will be betrayed" and the next day when he asks everyone if they've seen cheetara and they say no then turns the corner and sees cheetara kissing snarf :eek:. Now we know the reason the actions of snarf in ep 4:D

Snarf, a true player.:cool:

stormbringer 01-14-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30651)
That won't happen lion-o most likely won't die at any point in the show. What annet can say is "tygra tomorrow you will be betrayed" and the next day when he asks everyone if they've seen cheetara and they say no then turns the corner and sees cheetara kissing snarf :eek:. Now we know the reason the actions of snarf in ep 4:D

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30655)
Yeah he is just look at how he is laughing at panthro's handicap in ep 13

I've got it! Snarf is one of the ancient spirits of evil, in mortal form!!!

stormbringer 01-14-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30654)
He doesn't have to go solo that would be acting too childlike and show no growth in his character . If he mans up and accepts the choice that cheetara has made would be the right thing to in respecting her choice and he can keep some dignity be not looking like a crybaby because the choice wasn't in his favor. He was shocked at the end of ep 13 but he can move on

Lion-o should freeze Cheetara out by ignoring her, maybe then she'll learn not to be such a tease.

Balgus82 01-14-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30654)
He doesn't have to go solo that would be acting too childlike and show no growth in his character . If he mans up and accepts the choice that cheetara has made would be the right thing to in respecting her choice and he can keep some dignity be not looking like a crybaby because the choice wasn't in his favor. He was shocked at the end of ep 13 but he can move on

This. I absolutely agree. And if somewhere down the road T/C ends, Lion-O not acting childish now would go a long way towards him getting Cheetara then.

cmangund 01-14-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30655)
Yeah he is just look at how he is laughing at panthro's handicap in ep 13

Oh yeah that too. another fact pointing snarf's true nature

cmangund 01-14-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30659)
Lion-o should freeze Cheetara out by ignoring her, maybe then she'll learn not to be such a tease.

The more guilt cheetara will feel towards Lion-O.:D The king is "very angry" with you and the only way to fix it is....:D:D:D:D

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30663)
The more guilt cheetara will feel towards Lion-O.:D The king is "very angry" with you and the only way to fix it is....:D:D:D:D

She can hook him up with a female lizard :eek: :D:D

cmangund 01-14-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30664)
She can hook him up with a female lizard :eek: :D:D

Or an exact copy of Cheetara clone, that's one way to fix it, two completely same Cheetaras in Dna level, one for Lion-O one for Tygra.:D
Love triangle solved.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30651)
That won't happen lion-o most likely won't die at any point in the show. What annet can say is "tygra tomorrow you will be betrayed" and the next day when he asks everyone if they've seen cheetara and they say no then turns the corner and sees cheetara kissing snarf :eek:. Now we know the reason the actions of snarf in ep 4:D

Snarf is a player.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30668)
Or an exact copy of Cheetara clone, that's one way to fix it, two completely same Cheetaras in Dna level, one for Lion-O one for Tygra.:D
Love triangle solved.

All fans are happey except for snarf.

stormbringer 01-14-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30672)
All fans are happey except for snarf.

Snarf shall have his revenge!:p

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30668)
Or an exact copy of Cheetara clone, that's one way to fix it, two completely same Cheetaras in Dna level, one for Lion-O one for Tygra.:D
Love triangle solved.

Until the cheetara clone starts to look like bizzaro :eek:

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30654)
He doesn't have to go solo that would be acting too childlike and show no growth in his character . If he mans up and accepts the choice that cheetara has made would be the right thing to in respecting her choice and he can keep some dignity be not looking like a crybaby because the choice wasn't in his favor. He was shocked at the end of ep 13 but he can move on

If this show is about teaching moral lessons to kids, then what would they be teaching them about cheetara.

It is ok to be dishonest?

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30672)
All fans are happey except for snarf.

When the cheetata clone starts to look like bizzaro and tygra wakes up kissing annet snarf will be all :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30677)
If this show is about teaching moral lessons to kids, then what would they be teaching them about cheetara.

It is ok to be dishonest?

She isn't being dishonest if she likes both of them but chose tygra

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30678)
When the cheetata clone starts to look like bizzaro and tygra wakes up kissing annet snarf will be all :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

That would be like WTF moment.

stormbringer 01-14-2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30676)
Until the cheetara clone starts to look like bizzaro :eek:

If she starts that bizzaro backwards talking crap, Tygra needs to just shoot her.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30679)
She isn't being dishonest if she likes both of them but chose tygra

Being honest is not teasing someone when you are interested in someone else and you don't go behind their back.

Balgus82 01-14-2012 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30677)
If this show is about teaching moral lessons to kids, then what would they be teaching them about cheetara.

It is ok to be dishonest?

What the quote said was that Lion-O will learn lessons in the show ( e.g. Learning that sometimes being flexible is sometimes better than brute force in Duelist and the Drifter.)

He never said you should follow the example of every character in the show or even that every episode will have a lesson.

"Half of the episodes – maybe more –focus on a lesson very easily identified by our age 6-11 audience that would be the payoff for the episode in terms of what Lion-O learned."

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30681)
If she starts that bizzaro backwards talking crap, Tygra needs to just shoot her.

I thought lion-o go the clone

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 30683)
What the quote said was that Lion-O will learn lessons in the show ( e.g. Learning that sometimes being flexible is sometimes better than brute force in Duelist and the Drifter.)

He never said you should follow the example of every character in the show or even that every episode will have a lesson.

"Half of the episodes – maybe more –focus on a lesson very easily identified by our age 6-11 audience that would be the payoff for the episode in terms of what Lion-O learned."

So what is the moral lesson.

The duelist has nothing to do with moral lesson. They said early one they would be aiming at 6-11.

stormbringer 01-14-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30685)
I thought lion-o go the clone

Oh,in the case Lion-o should just energy blast her with the sword.

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30682)
Being honest is not teasing someone when you are interested in someone else and you don't go behind their back.

Like i said she likes both but chose tygra that doesn't mean she didn' or doesn't still like lion-o. If tygra was willing to respect her choice even if he still liked her why can't lion-o who is "a nicer guy" be willing to do like wise

stormbringer 01-14-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30686)
So what is the moral lesson.

The duelist has nothing to do with moral lesson. They said early one they would be aiming at 6-11.

I guess the lesson would be, trust no one. Though I doubt that's the lesson CN would want kids to take from the show.

Balgus82 01-14-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30686)
So what is the moral lesson.

The duelist has nothing to do with moral lesson. They said early one they would be aiming at 6-11.

D&D had a clear lesson for Lion-O. As I said it was that something that seems weak has strengths and being flexible is sometimes better than brute force.

as for the lesson in Between Brothers, read what I had bolded. He said only about HALF the episodes had lessons.

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30686)
So what is the moral lesson.

The duelist has nothing to do with moral lesson. They said early one they would be aiming at 6-11.

Duelist moral lesson is more along the lines of peer pressure and bullying

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30688)
Like i said she likes both but chose tygra that doesn't mean she didn' or doesn't still like lion-o. If tygra was willing to respect her choice even if he still liked her why can't lion-o who is "a nicer guy" be willing to do like wise

You said she was honest, I am saying the way they protray her she isn't.

You don't go behind peoples back.

So that is his lesson? It is ok to sneak off and go behind someones back and accept it. Sounds like something lion-o has been doing his whole life.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30689)
I guess the lesson would be, trust no one. Though I doubt that's the lesson CN would want kids to take from the show.

Agree, but others are fine with that.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 30690)
D&D had a clear lesson for Lion-O. As I said it was that something that seems weak has strengths and being flexible is sometimes better than brute force.

as for the lesson in Between Brothers, read what I had bolded. He said only about HALF the episodes had lessons.

So you know which episodes he is learning a lesson.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30691)
Duelist moral lesson is more along the lines of peer pressure and bullying

Peer pressure?

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30687)
Oh,in the case Lion-o should just energy blast her with the sword.

Na lion-o might say " oh deer she is ugly but at least i have a girlfriend" :eek: :D

Balgus82 01-14-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30694)
So you know which episodes he is learning a lesson.

He said In the quote that the episodes that had lessons were "very easily identified" to 6-11 age groups.

If you're sitting here asking what the lesson was then this episode clearly didn't have a lesson.

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30695)
Peer pressure?

You don't have to do what everyone else is doing, in a duelist town he didn't have to duel despite looking like a coward and being egged on by the duelist or the crowd

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30698)
You don't have to do what everyone else is doing, in a duelist town he didn't have to duel despite looking like a coward and being egged on by the duelist or the crowd

I could see that.

Balgus82 01-14-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30698)
You don't have to do what everyone else is doing, in a duelist town he didn't have to duel despite looking like a coward and being egged on by the duelist or the crowd


That is another lesson in the episode that I hadn't considered, but I don't believe it's the main lesson. I believe that it's what the Drifter was teaching him about the willow being weak, but being used to build things.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 30697)
He said In the quote that the episodes that had lessons were "very easily identified" to 6-11 age groups.

If you're sitting here asking what the lesson was then this episode clearly didn't have a lesson.

That is my point. As a kid, I wouldn't understand why cheetara was all about lion-o and then went behind his back and chose cheetara instead of being honest with him from the begining.

At 13, that is a different story.

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 30700)
That is another lesson in the episode that I hadn't considered, but I don't believe it's the main lesson. I believe that it's what the Drifter was teaching him about the willow being weak, but being used to build things.

Oh i thought you meant the lessons for the viewers

stormbringer 01-14-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 30696)
Na lion-o might say " oh deer she is ugly but at least i have a girlfriend" :eek: :D

Man, his self esteem must really be trashed. Dang Cheetara!

cmangund 01-14-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30692)
You said she was honest, I am saying the way they protray her she isn't.

You don't go behind peoples back.

So that is his lesson? It is ok to sneak off and go behind someones back and accept it. Sounds like something lion-o has been doing his whole life.

If they wanted to end with T/C for now, they will have Cheetara explain it to both brothers who she choses at the end of Ep13, not doing what she did. And no Lion-O clifhanger at the end. Otherwise it's just a waste of money to do another episode where T/C is final for now and doing it in the next episode again i.e.14. Because 14 will be about Lion-O/Cheetara angle. WB's on a budget as Register said.

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30703)
Man, his self esteem must really be trashed. Dang Cheetara!

What do you think kids would think of cheetara?

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 30703)
Man, his self esteem must really be trashed. Dang Cheetara!

Na the sight beyond sight can probably work like beer goggles and make her look hot :D:D

Balgus82 01-14-2012 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30704)
If the wanted to end with T/C for now, they will have Cheetara explain it to both brothers who she choses at the end of Ep13, not doing what she did. And no Lion-O clifhanger at the end. Otherwise it's just a waste of money to do another episode where T/C is final for now and doing it in the next episode again i.e.14. Because 14 will be about Lion-O/Cheetara angle.


I think if she had went to both brothers together it would've been really untactful and seems like it would've rubbed it in Lion-O's face a bit.

I think they most likely just didn't have time for something like that as well. They had a lot happening in the finale. I read them saying quite often in interviews how they have to squeeze a lot of story into a small amount of time.

Balgus82 01-14-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30705)
What do you think kids would think of cheetara?

I've heard a few people say that when their kids saw Cheetara and Tygra kiss they thought they had just gotten married. A lot of young children just don't think the same way adults do.

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30704)
If the wanted to end with T/C for now, they will have Cheetara explain it to both brothers who she choses at the end of Ep13, not doing what she did. And no Lion-O clifhanger at the end. Otherwise it's just a waste of money to do another episode where T/C is final for now and doing it in the next episode again i.e.14. Because 14 will be about Lion-O/Cheetara angle. WB's on a budget as Register said.

Yeah so in the next ep its gonna be about snarf and both tygra and lion-o will be :eek::eek: and the kittens :D:D:D:D

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 30704)
If the wanted to end with T/C for now, they will have Cheetara explain it to both brothers who she choses at the end of Ep13, not doing what she did. And no Lion-O clifhanger at the end. Otherwise it's just a waste of money to do another episode where T/C is final for now and doing it in the next episode again i.e.14. Because 14 will be about Lion-O/Cheetara angle. WB's on a budget as Register said.

Agreed. I don't think cheetara is like that.

She would've gone to lion-o and let him down; which I think he would have moved on. She went to tygra who seems to be ready to move on, but she the difference. He was going to be fine, because cheetara came to talk to him.

She didn't talkt to lion-o and he caught them kissing. That is a big difference. Especially when someone is saying I believe in you and flirting with you. Lion-o won't be able to move on, because the one person he trusted betrayed him.

stormbringer 01-14-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 30705)
What do you think kids would think of cheetara?

They probably won't think too highly of her. Kids may not know the term "tease" in the relationship context, but they'll see that's exactly what Cheetara is.

Big Snarf 01-14-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 30708)
I think if she had went to both brothers together it would've been really untactful and seems like it would've rubbed it in Lion-O's face a bit.

I think they most likely just didn't have time for something like that as well. They had a lot happening in the finale. I read them saying quite often in interviews how they have to squeeze a lot of story into a small amount of time.

Thats why i would've been better to go to lion-o 1st but hten we wouldn't get to see his face looking all:eek:

L08e16o 01-14-2012 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 30709)
I've heard a few people say that when their kids saw Cheetara and Tygra kiss they thought they had just gotten married. A lot of young children just don't think the same way adults do.

I know some kids of thunderdads that were not happy. They think cheetara did lion-o wrong, of course the are closer to 11.


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