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Balgus82 01-30-2012 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32956)
She did say she is a better person and will go for the highest good, just like I said.

Sanchia stirs it up, unlike cheetara. Sanchia is from Borgias a adult show. Not aimed at kids 6-11.

We have said this before and used facts.

The VA to me sounds like she likes to play different roles.

Yeah you say she'll go for the highest good, but you guys do always take quotes out of context to apply to L/C when a lot of the quotes have nothing to do with the love triangle.


Just like this one. Yall always say because Cheetara wants the "highest good" she won't want to hurt Lion-O's feelings. But Mss Chriqui was using "highest good" in general terms which just means that Cheetara tries to do the right thing.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32958)
Yeah you say she'll go for the highest good, but you guys do always take quotes out of context to apply to L/C when a lot of the quotes have nothing to do with the love triangle.


Just like this one. Yall always say because Cheetara wants the "highest good" she won't want to hurt Lion-O's feelings. But Mss Chriqui was using "highest good" in general terms which just means that Cheetara tries to do the right thing.

No, what we said is cheetara will always go for the highest good in everything, that is the core of her character.

At Comic Con they they asked her non stop about L/C. We use those answers. Some stuff she can't use, becaue of spoilers.

We used JL line about the L/C spark, the more you invest in it, the more you will get.

These are some of the things we are using.

We used WB boss, because he wanted the triangle to be important part, that is not a two episode thing and the story goes on.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 01:36 PM

Look man, here's a fact:

Without generalizations, without being vague, Emmanuelle Chricui said outright Cheetara ends up with someone other than Lion-O.

I posted the interview myself a couple weeks back.

Not my fault if ya'll wanna be in denial about it.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32960)
No, what we said is cheetara will always go for the highest good in everything, that is the core of her character.

At Comic Con they they asked her non stop about L/C. We use those answers. Some stuff she can't use, becaue of spoilers.

We used JL line about the L/C spark, the more you invest in it, the more you will get.

These are some of the things we are using.

We used WB boss, because he wanted the triangle to be important part, that is not a two episode thing and the story goes on.

"the more you invest in it, the more you will get." is also a line ya'll take out of context. in that interview he was talking about the whole show.

And again the Triangle has gone on for way more than two episodes.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32961)
Look man, here's a fact:

Without generalizations, without being vague, Emmanuelle Chricui said outright Cheetara ends up with someone other than Lion-O.

I posted the interview myself a couple weeks back.

Not my fault if ya'll wanna be in denial about it.

Look woman or man. What are you anyway?

What did we say, we said she chose tygra in 13. She is talking about episode 13. If tygra and cheetara was the main ending she wouldn't have said anything. She said what we know as of episode 13. She chose tygra in E13 the triangle has just started.

Nothing about denial.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32962)
"the more you invest in it, the more you will get." is also a line ya'll take out of contest. in that interview he was talking about the whole show.

And again the Triangle has gone on for way more than two episodes.

No it hasn't. It started in Epsiode 12. We have never seen cheetara's feelings. We saw a little bit of that in episode 13.

Tygra never entered the triangle until he went into the ap and when we saw the flashback.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32965)

Tygra never entered the triangle until he went into the ap and when we saw the flashback.

Tygra has been in the triangle for quite a while.

episode 6~ Tygra has a shocked look watching Cheetara and Panthro tells him to stop Drooling

episode 9~ Cheetara and Tygra are sleeping leaning on each other with Lion-O looking on angrily.

episode 11~ Lion-O tells Tygra they're going to have to settle things about Cheetara. Later Tygra saves Cheetara's life.

episode 12~ Lion-O starts bragging to Tygra that he's going to win her. Tygra has flashback.

episode 13~ it all comes to a head and they fight over her and at the end she chooses Tygra.

Triangles don't start with the person makes their choice, that's when they end. You have a triangle when you have two people wanting one person and you don't know who the person is going to choose.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32968)
Tygra has been in the triangle for quite a while.

episode 6~ Tygra has a shocked look watching Cheetara and Panthro tells him to stop Drooling

episode 9~ Cheetara and Tygra are sleeping leaning on each other with Lion-O looking on angrily.

episode 11~ Lion-O tells Tygra they're going to have to settle things about Cheetara. Later Tygra saves Cheetara's life instead of Lion-O.

episode 12~ Lion-O starts bragging to Tygra that he's going to win her

episode 13~ it all comes to a head and they fight over her and at the end she chooses Tygra.

Triangles don't start with the person makes their choice, that's when they end. You have a triangle when you have two people wanting one person and you don't know who the person is going to choose.

Episode 9 cheetara leans on tygra he was not sleeping on her.

Triangle start when all three parties are involved. Tygra had shown some interest in cheetara. We have yet to see why cheetara is following lion-o around in episode 14.

We got the flash back of T/C. I am sure we will get another flashback on why cheetara follows lion-o around in E14 (they said they would explain this in 14).

No, triangle don't stop so early in the story when it is important in the story.

Dr. T: Yeah, I noticed that little riff between Cheetara and Lion-O – she keeps following him around and looking at him – then that disappeared for a few episodes.

MJ: That little character beat of Cheetara's, following him around, we don't give a definitive answer to that until, I think, Episode 14. If you invest in the show, with each episode you'll get more out of it.

He was talking about L/C.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32970)
Episode 9 cheetara leans on tygra he was not sleeping on her.

Where did I say he was sleeping on top of her? I said they were both asleep and leaning on each other.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/506/sleepz.jpg

L08e16o 01-30-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32973)
Where did I say he was sleeping on top of her? I said they were both asleep and leaning on each other.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/506/sleepz.jpg

You're right they were sleeping like that and lion-o was jealous.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32970)

No, triangle don't stop so early in the story when it is important in the story.

Again important does not equal never ending.

Claudus dying and Thundera being destroyed was important to the story. It happened, and it's done with.

Jaga being captured and being forced to show Mumm-Ra the location of the book was important to the story.

Panthro and Grune's backstory was important to the story.


Important does not mean that it'll last long or that it'll keep changing.

Do I need to go to the freaking dictionary and look up "important" for you? Apparently I do so here you go:

important
[im-pawr-tnt]   Origin
im·por·tant
   [im-pawr-tnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
of much or great significance or consequence: an important event in world history.
2.
mattering much (usually followed by to ): details important to a fair decision.
3.
entitled to more than ordinary consideration or notice: an important exception.
4.
prominent or large: He played an important part in national politics.
5.
of considerable influence or authority, as a person or position: an important scientist.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32976)
Again important does not equal never ending.

Claudus dying and Thundera being destroyed was important to the story. It happened, and it's done with.

Jaga being captured and being forced to show Mumm-Ra the location of the book was important to the story.

Panthro and Grune's backstory was important to the story


Important does not mean that it'll last long or that it'll keep changing.

Do I need to go to the freaking dictionary and look up "important" for you? Apparently I do so here you go:

important
[im-pawr-tnt]   Origin
im·por·tant
   [im-pawr-tnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
of much or great significance or consequence: an important event in world history.
2.
mattering much (usually followed by to ): details important to a fair decision.
3.
entitled to more than ordinary consideration or notice: an important exception.
4.
prominent or large: He played an important part in national politics.
5.
of considerable influence or authority, as a person or position: an important scientist.

Yeah, you could show that to me in person, would that make it better?

Jaga and Claudus had nothing to due with what the WB boss wanted was it.

Where did the WB boss point out Jaga or Claudus or anything else. Didn't he point to the three of them and wanted the triangle.

This is more important than Jaga, Claudus, or Panthero's back story. This is not going to be over at episode 13 after what lion-o saw.

Panthero and Grune have nothing to do with Lion-o's story.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32976)
Again important does not equal never ending.

Claudus dying and Thundera being destroyed was important to the story. It happened, and it's done with.

Jaga being captured and being forced to show Mumm-Ra the location of the book was important to the story.

Panthro and Grune's backstory was important to the story.


Important does not mean that it'll last long or that it'll keep changing.

Do I need to go to the freaking dictionary and look up "important" for you? Apparently I do so here you go:

important
[im-pawr-tnt]   Origin
im·por·tant
   [im-pawr-tnt] Show IPA
adjective
1.
of much or great significance or consequence: an important event in world history.
2.
mattering much (usually followed by to ): details important to a fair decision.
3.
entitled to more than ordinary consideration or notice: an important exception.
4.
prominent or large: He played an important part in national politics.
5.
of considerable influence or authority, as a person or position: an important scientist.

By the way, Do you think we will see more about the past from the book?

Balgus82 01-30-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32980)
By the way, Do you think we will see more about the past from the book?

Yeah we'll see more from the past. The crew confirmed it on the tumblr blog a while ago.

Thundercats Crew Blog, Will we learn more about the ancestors showcased in

DarkKnight 01-30-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32980)
By the way, Do you think we will see more about the past from the book?

yeah

DarkKnight 01-30-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32973)
Where did I say he was sleeping on top of her? I said they were both asleep and leaning on each other.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/506/sleepz.jpg

they're not sleeping on eachother.they're sleeping next to eachother.how ironic even in his sleep tygra looks mad.

DarkKnight 01-30-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32973)
Where did I say he was sleeping on top of her? I said they were both asleep and leaning on each other.

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/506/sleepz.jpg

calm down, he just misunderstood what you meant.

DarkKnight 01-30-2012 03:15 PM

i noticed we're all arguing less frequently now.

Ravenxl7 01-30-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 32987)
i noticed we're all arguing less frequently now.

There's no point in continuing an argument that's going nowhere but downhill.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 32987)
i noticed we're all arguing less frequently now.

Well for a while we were chatting about things besides the triangle. That's where everyone usually gets heated.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32982)
Yeah we'll see more from the past. The crew confirmed it on the tumblr blog a while ago.

Thundercats Crew Blog, Will we learn more about the ancestors showcased in

So will it be through the book?

Thanks for the link.

I posted the about them saying we will learn about what is going to happen in 26 episodes.

I am thinking the first 26 will deal with the character layers and the past to make sense of where they are at.

The next 26 will be more story driven (main plot).

L08e16o 01-30-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenxl7 (Post 32990)
There's no point in continuing an argument that's going nowhere but downhill.

It is some what like the whole Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura thing.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32992)
Well for a while we were chatting about things besides the triangle. That's where everyone usually gets heated.

It will be heated until we can get the season back on and hopefully they resolve things in the first 3 episodes.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 32986)
calm down, he just misunderstood what you meant.

Thanks.

I said that they were leaning on each other and lion-o was jealous.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 32983)
yeah

I wonder what part of the time line they will use. They said they are following a time line.

stormbringer 01-30-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32999)
I wonder what part of the time line they will use. They said they are following a time line.

Hopefully around the time they give up tech and seperate the stones of power.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33000)
Hopefully around the time they give up tech and seperate the stones of power.

I wonder it one of the cats betrayed the others and how did the lion-o keep the SoO in their blood line. You would think it switched over.

I hope we see who put the spell on the sword too.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32995)
So will it be through the book?

Thanks for the link.

I posted the about them saying we will learn about what is going to happen in 26 episodes.

I am thinking the first 26 will deal with the character layers and the past to make sense of where they are at.

The next 26 will be more story driven (main plot).

I would think it would have to be through the book. Mumm-Ra's memories would've stopped after he was imprisoned so the flashbacks wouldn't come from him. Either that or someone who's protecting a stone could tell the story.

I just wonder WHY Lion-O would go back into the book. It's already telling him where the stones are so why would he need to go back? The only thing I can think of is that maybe Jaga has been looking through the book and finds something important that he has to warn Lion-O about or something.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33002)
I would think it would have to be through the book. Mumm-Ra's memories would've stopped after he was imprisoned so the flashbacks wouldn't come from him. Either that or someone who's protecting a stone could tell the story.

I just wonder WHY Lion-O would go back into the book. It's already telling him where the stones are so why would he need to go back? The only thing I can think of is that maybe Jaga has been looking through the book and finds something important that he has to warn Lion-O about or something.

Do you think it might be another cat protecting it? I know so brought up pumyra, but wouldn't that be to soon for them to get another stone.

I wonder if the green stone (AoO) is in the city of El Dara.

When he said the book would be open to him, I thought that was a clue he would go back in.

Maybe he will see why the cats split from tech or maybe there was a fight amoung the cats.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33001)
I wonder it one of the cats betrayed the others and how did the lion-o keep the SoO in their blood line. You would think it switched over.

I hope we see who put the spell on the sword too.

I assumed the sword had the spell placed on it when it was made. I think They would've been more worried about Mumm-Ra defeating Leo and getting the stone from him during the rebellion then they would be worried about Mumm-Ra getting the stone centuries in the future after they're all dead.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33004)
Do you think it might be another cat protecting it? I know so brought up pumyra, but wouldn't that be to soon for them to get another stone.

I wonder if the green stone (AoO) is in the city of El Dara.

When he said the book would be open to him, I thought that was a clue he would go back in.

Maybe he will see why the cats split from tech or maybe there was a fight amoung the cats.

I don't think other cats are protecting stones. I think the stones were probably handed out to different animal races. Cats got the War Stone, Elephants got the Spirit Stone, etc, etc.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33006)
I don't think other cats are protecting stones. I think the stones were probably handed out to different animal races. Cats got the War Stone, Elephants got the Spirit Stone, etc, etc.

Good theroy.

Wouldn't the lizards have one?

I like to know what power will lion-o have with all the stones.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33005)
I assumed the sword had the spell placed on it when it was made. I think They would've been more worried about Mumm-Ra defeating Leo and getting the stone from him during the rebellion then they would be worried about Mumm-Ra getting the stone centuries in the future after they're all dead.

I was thinking maybe the first clerics put the spell on it, so no evil can touch it.

Maybe their were animals that were that evil then.

stormbringer 01-30-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32999)
I wonder what part of the time line they will use. They said they are following a time line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33008)
Good theroy.

Wouldn't the lizards have one?

I like to know what power will lion-o have with all the stones.

Something like that would probably be revealed in the series finale.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33011)
Something like that would probably be revealed in the series finale.

You think he will be at full power by episode 26?

I was thinking they would still be struggling. They said they were not going to make it easy on lion-o.

We know grean gives him the AoO, the red gives him left arm armor and powers up the sword. We know some of the things the war stone does, but lion-o has not totally tap into its power.

What would all the stones do? The gauntlet was glowing when he put all the stones on it.

stormbringer 01-30-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33013)
You think he will be at full power by episode 26?

I was thinking they would still be struggling. They said they were not going to make it easy on lion-o.

We know grean gives him the AoO, the red gives him left arm armor and powers up the sword. We know some of the things the war stone does, but lion-o has not totally tap into its power.

What would all the stones do? The gauntlet was glowing when he put all the stones on it.

Actually I meant he'd be full powered for the last episode of the series;). But since the amount of Stones Leo had gave him the Armor of Omens, maybe he would get Voltron level armor with all of them?

L08e16o 01-30-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 33014)
Actually I meant he'd be full powered for the last episode of the series;). But since the amount of Stones Leo had gave him the Armor of Omens, maybe he would get Voltron level armor with all of them?

Well we know lion-o is black lion-o.:)

Tygra red lion
Kit and Kat green lion
Panthero yellow lion
Cheetara blue lion

Maybe a gundam suit. The gauntlet changes into a sheild with a cannon attached.

I think he will fight the ASoE.

Balgus82 01-30-2012 06:53 PM

My theory is that each of the stones will have to choose one of the Thundercats just like the Warstone chose Lion-O.

Remember that whole "The Spirit stone hasn't chosen you yet" thing Tygra said in the AP?

I don't think Lion-O will have all of them. He'll probably "borrow" them from the rest of the team if he really needs them to fight Mumm-Ra, but won't have them all the time.

L08e16o 01-30-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 33020)
My theory is that each of the stones will have to choose one of the Thundercats just like the Warstone chose Lion-O.

Remember that whole "The Spirit stone hasn't chosen you yet" thing Tygra said in the AP?

I don't think Lion-O will have all of them. He'll probably "borrow" them from the rest of the team if he really needs them to fight Mumm-Ra, but won't have them all the time.

You don't think lion-o will have the green stone? That was on his gauntlet in the OS.

How would they use them? Just asking.:) The gauntlet was made to hold them.

Do you think they will have a special weapon make?

DarkKnight 01-30-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32995)
So will it be through the book?

Thanks for the link.

I posted the about them saying we will learn about what is going to happen in 26 episodes.

I am thinking the first 26 will deal with the character layers and the past to make sense of where they are at.

The next 26 will be more story driven (main plot).

sup

L08e16o 01-30-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight (Post 33028)
sup

How are you?

Big Snarf 01-30-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 32829)
Hmmmm I wonder if there was a Leo/Panthera/ Tygus triangle,centuries ago?

Na it would be tygus /mumm-ra / leo with tygus brown nosing mumm-ra to be #1

Big Snarf 01-30-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32893)
If cheetara didn't go to tygra.

What type of betrayal would've tygra done to make lion-o feel betrayed?

Annet said he would know a betrayal then he would feel betrayed i think annet was talking about the whole pit incident. Annet said before the bell rings which could've been anytime during that day

Big Snarf 01-30-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 32945)
That is the whole point. Just like Panthera. Lion-o and Leo needed a female with their qualitites or personalities to overcome such a impossible task.The writers have been mirroring leo and panthera with L/C.

The base of you not liking L/C is you're a tygra fan and you want T/C more than anything.

If lion-o has to grow up, what about tygra. For being an adult, he is really immature. So, I guess both need to grow up.

Not really because leo isn't lion-o. In the book when lion-o relives leo's life he didn't know what to do and needed panthera to help him just like in his own life cheetara tries to help him. The only difference is that panthera is competent and cheetara isn't. Panthera was leo's second in command while i doubt cheetara could be that for lion-o

Big Snarf 01-30-2012 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 32968)
Tygra has been in the triangle for quite a while.

episode 6~ Tygra has a shocked look watching Cheetara and Panthro tells him to stop Drooling

episode 9~ Cheetara and Tygra are sleeping leaning on each other with Lion-O looking on angrily.

episode 11~ Lion-O tells Tygra they're going to have to settle things about Cheetara. Later Tygra saves Cheetara's life.

episode 12~ Lion-O starts bragging to Tygra that he's going to win her. Tygra has flashback.

episode 13~ it all comes to a head and they fight over her and at the end she chooses Tygra.

Triangles don't start with the person makes their choice, that's when they end. You have a triangle when you have two people wanting one person and you don't know who the person is going to choose.

Triangles still continue after the choice is made when the odd "cat" out continues to interfere

Big Snarf 01-30-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33001)
I wonder it one of the cats betrayed the others and how did the lion-o keep the SoO in their blood line. You would think it switched over.

I hope we see who put the spell on the sword too.

Leo may have decided that the stones and the sword were too much power for one person or kingdom to have and hid the stones and tried to get rid of the sword but the sword chose him and his blood line and the book was kept for records but we see why it also had to be hidden

Big Snarf 01-30-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33008)
Good theroy.

Wouldn't the lizards have one?

I like to know what power will lion-o have with all the stones.

Thanos like powers

Big Snarf 01-30-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33022)
You don't think lion-o will have the green stone? That was on his gauntlet in the OS.

How would they use them? Just asking.:) The gauntlet was made to hold them.

Do you think they will have a special weapon make?

His gauntlet had no stones on it in the OS. I guess the stones would be used just like how they were used in the legacy ep so the stones would be weapons on their own

Balgus82 01-31-2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 33022)
You don't think lion-o will have the green stone? That was on his gauntlet in the OS.

How would they use them? Just asking.:) The gauntlet was made to hold them.

Do you think they will have a special weapon make?

The Gauntlet was made to hold them, but They weren't made for the Gauntlet.

That's a distinct difference. They have power without the Sword and Gauntlet.

Balgus82 01-31-2012 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 33038)
His gauntlet had no stones on it in the OS. I guess the stones would be used just like how they were used in the legacy ep so the stones would be weapons on their own

Well actually it did have 3 red stones at the nuckles, but they didn't have any special properties other than being grappling hooks.

But I think he was actually referring to the Leo flashbacks and wrote OS by mistake.


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