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L08e16o 03-31-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 42259)
It would be kind of nice to see Wileykit develop a crush on Lion-O and he has to find a way to let her down gently. It could give him more perspective on his relationship with Cheetarah.

Please don't start the ship.:D

stormbringer 03-31-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 42259)
It would be kind of nice to see Wileykit develop a crush on Lion-O and he has to find a way to let her down gently. It could give him more perspective on his relationship with Cheetarah.

At least Lion-o will know not to do any flirting.;)

L08e16o 03-31-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42261)
The power of the Spirit Stone will protect Lion-o, and smite Auburn.;)

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 42263)
Uh-oh another ship problem:eek:

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Lion-o can't win.:D

stormbringer 03-31-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 42264)
Please don't start the ship.:D

If Wilykit was older, I'd keep an open mind.:D

Chique 03-31-2012 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 42249)
Or as a tease who plays with him.

Either way its how Lion-O sees her, so if you want to put that on him then go for it.

L08e16o 03-31-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42267)
If Wilykit was older, I'd keep an open mind.:D

You know Kit, Kat, and panthro are the mature ones of the group and we lion-o would be last.

SirSapphire 03-31-2012 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42267)
If Wilykit was older, I'd keep an open mind.:D

She will get older eventually. If Lion-O is seventeen I'd say she's probably around ten. Seven years isn't unheard of or even considered too strange for many relationships. It's still a matter of maturity though, she has to grow up first or it'll still seem creepy.

None of the Bronies have problems shipping Spike with Rarity (or anyone else for that matter).

cmangund 03-31-2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42267)
If Wilykit was older, I'd keep an open mind.:D

As long as it's not Jelenic that's doing it.:D

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

SirSapphire 03-31-2012 08:14 PM

Also is it just me or do both Wileytwins seem bigger in this episode? Are they going through a growth spurt?

CreepySariFan 03-31-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 42242)
Can anyone even a love triangle properly?

It is a decent love triangle. The only reason people think it's bad is 'cause no one's dying over it.

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Also is it just me or do both Wileytwins seem bigger in this episode? Are they going through a growth spurt?
I thought Addicus and Kaynar seemed smaller against the Cats this time too.

cmangund 03-31-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 42272)
Also is it just me or do both Wileytwins seem bigger in this episode? Are they going through a growth spurt?

The twins were eating too much candyfruit...:D The side effects...:eek:

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

SirSapphire 03-31-2012 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 42271)
As long as it's not Jelenic that's doing it.:D

You really do love your little hate-boner for him, don't you?

hollowdheart 03-31-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 42272)
Also is it just me or do both Wileytwins seem bigger in this episode? Are they going through a growth spurt?

It might just be the animation. Cheetara's lips looked weird in today's episode.

stormbringer 03-31-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 42271)
As long as it's not Jelenic that's doing it.:D

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Oh certainly not. Didn't he even say that writing romance wasn't his strong suit?

cmangund 03-31-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42277)
Oh certainly not. Didn't he even say that writing romance wasn't his strong suit?

He said Comedy is his favorite thing. He did not say anything about his "skills" in romance.:D

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

hollowdheart 03-31-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42277)
Oh certainly not. Didn't he even say that writing romance wasn't his strong suit?


I think some guy named Paul wrote the romance/episodes for 12 and 13.

cmangund 03-31-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 42275)
You really do love your little hate-boner for him, don't you?

All of my posts about that are clear enough. And the signature words below:cool:

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

cmangund 03-31-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 42280)
I think some guy named Paul wrote the romance/episodes for 12 and 13.

Paul Giacoppo and the dreaded T/C flower thing.

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Balgus82 03-31-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 42260)
Ah, i forgot.....though i do give SM credit for Usagi for not being giving up all the time. And T/R had a better flashback that made more sense. I think a good "triangle" would be something like Bleach's IchiRuki vs IchiHime. They both get development. Sadly, i haven't found one instance of an american show doing this. :(

I always thought Rukia was with Renji. Her and Ichigo really don't have any romantic interest in each other.

stormbringer 03-31-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 42279)
He said Comedy is his favorite thing. He did not say anything about his "skills" in romance.:D

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Comedy? Well that explains the flower flashback.:p

L08e16o 03-31-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 42283)
I always thought Rukia was with Renji. Her and Ichigo really don't have any romantic interest in each other.

Please don't start a I/R/R/O flame war.:D

L08e16o 03-31-2012 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42284)
comedy? Well that explains the flower flashback.:p

:d:d:d:d:d

SirSapphire 03-31-2012 08:35 PM

I've only ever read the manga of Bleach and not past the third volume. Everything you're saying is just clicks and whistles.

stormbringer 03-31-2012 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 42280)
I think some guy named Paul wrote the romance/episodes for 12 and 13.

Oh, well I guess he isn't that thrilled to write romance either.

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 42200)
That's exactly why Tygra doesn't respect him. Tygra's said from the start that he believes people should earn what they have. He's resentful because he spent his whole life doing what was expected of him and studying and taking everything Claudus said seriously, while Lion-O was a little bit of a dreamer and a slacker.

Honestly I think Tygra would be less resentful if Lion-O didn't always completely ignore his advice.

Despite the fact that lion-o being the dreamer showed them that their way of thinking is antiquated and would've led to their demise if not for him saving them. We see claudis acknowledge lion-o was correct when bowed to him a nd later said that he was proud of him and what did tygra do. Lion-o's previous actions is the only reason tygra stayed alive. So its a difference in ideologies that tygra still won't admit despite the fact he is using and enjoying the very tech he was bashing on lion-o for dreaming about. As for the advice tygra gives I don't think "you'll always be 2nd best" is advice and that all that really ever came out his mouth nothing but negative nonsense and self aggrandizement

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 42216)
I don't get why Cheetara questioned the book and Lion-o's decision . Shouldn't she, as a cleric, believe that the book is right? Unless i've missed something, the book has never failed to show them where the stone is.

I agree. And for that matter why didn't slithe take the book the thunder tank is so big he could not of missed seeing it. And even if they didn't know the book is in the tank they would've found out upon a closer examination

CCDustyV 03-31-2012 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 42290)
I agree. And for that matter why didn't slithe take the book the thunder tank is so big he could not of missed seeing it. And even if they didn't know the book is in the tank they would've found out upon a closer examination

I don't think she was questioning the book, she was questioning Lion O's interpretation of what it said. the last stone had a major trick to it in discovering it. garentee that this one was the same, and had Lion O not let his emotions get the better of him he would have likely found a better and safer solution than going up an open mountain path deathtrap.

stormbringer 03-31-2012 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 42290)
I agree. And for that matter why didn't slithe take the book the thunder tank is so big he could not of missed seeing it. And even if they didn't know the book is in the tank they would've found out upon a closer examination

That my friend, is the power of plot conveniance. It doesn't have to make sense, as long as it achieves the desired result.;)

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 42217)
Rewatching the episode now. The rest of the group were definitely already captured when Lion-O got pushed over the cliff. They just didn't show them getting cuffed. First you see Addicus stop Tygra, then you see Kaynar stop Cheetara, then Addicus and Kaynar are both free when they push Lion-O and in the next scene (right after he fell) the whole group is cuffed up with a lizard guarding them. So it seems to me like Addicus and Kaynar handed them off to the lizard guard after they caught them.

No idea who beat Panthro or Kit cause they didn't actually show that.

They probably did it like that to save time. Afterall they only get like 22 minutes per episode.

So a few punches was enough to floor tygra to get captured and later he takes a beating that should've KO'd him for a month and he still able to run after a hover craft.So har far are they going to chase slithe on foot when earlier the were complaining about walking up the mountain pass

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 42220)
When Addicus and Kaynar are free, why didn't the others do anything, regardless of the cuffs? We see Tygra goad them later....like, couldn't Cheetara have used her superspeed to do something like get behind one of the lizards and choke them or do something with her staff? and i can't believe Panthro was captured, he has new arms now. The twins know how to pick locks, so they should have been able to do something. I wonder where Snarf is.....?

I would've thought pantro would've used him new arms to KO atticus and kaynar just like he did in the previous episode despite being cuffed and i also thought his new arms would've been strong enough to break the cuffs :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused:

L08e16o 03-31-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CCDustyV (Post 42292)
I don't think she was questioning the book, she was questioning Lion O's interpretation of what it said. the last stone had a major trick to it in discovering it. garentee that this one was the same, and had Lion O not let his emotions get the better of him he would have likely found a better and safer solution than going up an open mountain path deathtrap.

His emotions are a dead end.

Someone brought up a floating city. They said the stone would be there. That might be what it is.

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 42228)
Wileykit's gonna have such a big crush on Lion-O when he gets back. It's gonna be hilarious.

Bigger than the one tygra has on him oh joy :D:D:D:D:D

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 42256)
Auburn gets word of kit having a crush on lion-o, lion-o will not make it. Auburn will be waiting for him when he wakes up.

Auburn has forgotten about kit by now and for some strange reason likes tygra :D:D:D:D why not the whole world has gone tygra :D:D:D:D

L08e16o 03-31-2012 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 42298)
Auburn has forgotten about kit by now and for some strange reason likes tygra :D:D:D:D why not the whole world has gone tygra :D:D:D:D

That is so FH. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42293)
That my friend, is the power of plot conveniance. It doesn't have to make sense, as long as it achieves the desired result.;)

So the team goes down with out a fight and decides to fight later and some how tygra is a better leader :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

stormbringer 03-31-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 42301)
So the team goes down with out a fight and decides to fight later and some how tygra is a better leader :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

If it helps next episode I think things go horribly wrong, and the resurrected Lion-o has to save them.

hollowdheart 03-31-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42304)
Actually next episode I think things go horribly wrong, and the resurrected Lion-o has to save them.

I think Balgus mentioned that they're fighting pretty well against Mumm-ra. Though i don't know how they'd fight if they don't have weapons.

stormbringer 03-31-2012 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 42305)
I think Balgus mentioned that they're fighting pretty well against Mumm-ra. Though i don't know how they'd fight if they don't have weapons.

Mumm-ra will probably get the upperhand, after them doing well initially. I can't imagine them beating Mumm-ra without the Sword.

stac 03-31-2012 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chique (Post 42248)
The spirits took forms that Lion-O was comfortable with. I think that pretty much confirms that they were manifestations of his own mind, not translated consciousness from the gang. Seeing as Lion-O is not comfortable with T/C it makes sense that he would see her as he wants to, as someone who is interested in him.

I don’t understand how the spirits taking forms Lion-O was comfortable with automatically means that they were completely manifestations of his mind. Jaga talks of the spirit stone as though it is almost sentient: “The spirit stone has deemed you worthy of another chance.” Is it that the magic of the spirit stone took the form of those he was comfortable with? In other words, independent or autonomous spirits took the form of those Lion-O was comfortable with.

Or was everything he experienced simply in his mind? If everything, including the spirits were simply manifestations of his own mind, then the trials were something he imagined himself. I’m asking because I don’t know what happened in the original series so I can’t compare.

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CCDustyV (Post 42292)
I don't think she was questioning the book, she was questioning Lion O's interpretation of what it said. the last stone had a major trick to it in discovering it. garentee that this one was the same, and had Lion O not let his emotions get the better of him he would have likely found a better and safer solution than going up an open mountain path deathtrap.

How convenient lion-o didn't use sight beyond sight when looking for this stone maybe the ambush would've been revealed. If they didn't want to go they should've stayed in the tank as them going with him really made no difference in the outcome

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 42305)
I think Balgus mentioned that they're fighting pretty well against Mumm-ra. Though i don't know how they'd fight if they don't have weapons.

Slithe, kaynor and atticus failed to do a cavity search on tygra as he had his gun at the end and was shooting it at the hover craft

CreepySariFan 03-31-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 42309)
How convenient lion-o didn't use sight beyond sight when looking for this stone maybe the ambush would've been revealed. If they didn't want to go they should've stayed in the tank as them going with him really made no difference in the outcome

Old Lion-O was just as bad for not learning his lessons the first time. Gotta slap some sense into that boy a few times before he takes the hint!

Still, UP? Book of Omens, WTF. That's vague enough that I wouldn't even think of the Bird Nation if they hadn't just premiered it in the earlier episode. Sure, I'm theorizing that the Bird Nation has the next stone, but sometimes there's foreshadowing to consider.

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Slithe, kaynor and atticus failed to do a cavity search on tygra as he had his gun at the end and was shooting it at the hover craft
Kinda like how he ass-pulled the marksman attachments last episode? Probably confiscated them off a Lizard battalion, but I imagine Cheetara could have also slipped him the weapon when she freed him.

hollowdheart 03-31-2012 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 42310)
Slithe, kaynor and atticus failed to do a cavity search on tygra as he had his gun at the end and was shooting it at the hover craft

I wonder why Cheetara didn't bring her staff?

stormbringer 03-31-2012 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 42309)
How convenient lion-o didn't use sight beyond sight when looking for this stone maybe the ambush would've been revealed. If they didn't want to go they should've stayed in the tank as them going with him really made no difference in the outcome

I wonder why Lion-o doesn't use sight beyond sight, whenever he's going into unknown territory/situations. But that just brings me back to that plot conveniance thing.

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stac (Post 42308)
I don’t understand how the spirits taking forms Lion-O was comfortable with automatically means that they were completely manifestations of his mind. Jaga talks of the spirit stone as though it is almost sentient: “The spirit stone has deemed you worthy of another chance.” Is it that the magic of the spirit stone took the form of those he was comfortable with? In other words, independent or autonomous spirits took the form of those Lion-O was comfortable with.

Or was everything he experienced simply in his mind? If everything, including the spirits were simply manifestations of his own mind, then the trials were something he imagined himself. I’m asking because I don’t know what happened in the original series so I can’t compare.

In the original series he didn't die he just had to best each cat at what they did best. He had to be stronger than panthro, be faster than cheetara, more cunning than kit & kat, face his worst nightmares from the illusions tygra and beat mumm-ra unarmed.

stormbringer 03-31-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 42310)
Slithe, kaynor and atticus failed to do a cavity search on tygra as he had his gun at the end and was shooting it at the hover craft

Thank Jaga for not so bright villains.:p

hollowdheart 03-31-2012 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 42313)
I wonder why Lion-o doesn't use sight beyond sight, whenever he's going into unknown territory/situations. But that just brings me back to that plot conveniance thing.

I thought he used to to look for the stone with the book?

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 42316)
I thought he used to to look for the stone with the book?

The book takes them to the location but the sight beyond sight pin points were it is exactly because it may be hidden from plain sight

hollowdheart 03-31-2012 09:48 PM

i thought i heard him say the phrase for the sword...maybe they didn't want to reuse footage?

Big Snarf 03-31-2012 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 42312)
I wonder why Cheetara didn't bring her staff?

She forgot it was in her gauntlet or where ever she keeps it


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