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I've heard people argue that as a point against a romantic relationship. She has to let Lion-O fight his own battles with the team. He can't have momma Cleric stepping in each and every time someone slights him. As for the campfire the scenery was romantic, but Cheetara's intentions were not. |
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That should be "the real" cheetara. they needed to do a "switch". "Justice Lords Theory" in action again.:D _______________ Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint. |
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My previous point still stands though; it was the combination of her actions during this moment and throughout the entire season that made her intentions seem non-platonic. |
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Of course I flirt with my fiance, and it includes stuff I did not do when we were still single. If Cheetara had just walked up and made out with Lion-o, or Tygra, before starting a relationship with him, this would be a very different discussion. |
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Lion-o's immature, Cheetarah's a tease, Tygra's a Jerk. These are problems. 2. No you don't, that's just not the way the world really works. People can be right, and wrong, even if they're not perfect, or completely wrong. The world is just shades of grey. 3. Maybe, but this was never about who got Cheetarah for me. My choice actually WON. My anger is the triangle was poorly done and made every character involved the worse for it. |
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It's not that Lion-O never studied, he just didn't study the approved material because he knew there was a bigger world out there. Instead he studied things that he thought would be needful out there, like technology. It had the added benefit of putting him a bit closer in touch with the poor and oppressed because he had to walk through slums to do it. Both brothers have skills and knowledge that the other needs, but they're too blinded by their rivalry to see it. |
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That said, even that would not change the fact that the triangle was poorly written, from both a story and a character standpoint. Lion-o was always in his brother's shadow as a person, but don't forget for Tygra it was always an impossible race. No matter how good he did, or how hard he tried, he was always destined for second place. That's rough. And that is why I do agree with this quote. |
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Yes the world is full of shades of gray. I'm sorry, but I don't see the gray area in this situation. Lion-O took it upon himself to assume she was into him. Whether or not he did it because of her actions is irrelevant. What matters is that he lost, no forfeited his right to be angry, because he chose not to ask. |
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The technology was initially just a bunch of junk Lion-O couldn't get to work. Logically, his time would have been better suited being the perfect prince. Sure he was right in the end, but that was pure luck and chance. Pretty much sums it up. They can't see each other's pain, because each one is wrapped up in their own. |
We see Cheetara really flirt during the second season with Tygra and he flirts back with her.
That wipes all the presumed flirty signals in the first season out, which means she wasn't putting the moves on Lion-O in the first place. Now as to her behavior in the first season. If she already had Tygra chosen, to her Lion-O was a future family member. So she would lay the ground work for a family relationship with Lion-O. |
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What that means is that all of those things were put there ON PURPOSE by the writers to be taken as signs of possible romance between Lion-o and Cheetarah. We can debate about what a cartoon character 'meant' or 'was thinking' all we want, but that's neither here no there. This is not people reading too much into the way Misty looks at Ash or something, this is a show with confirmed, INTENDED romantic scenes and tension. And in the first season, that tension certainly wasn't between Tygra and Cheetarah; they almost never talked. |
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There is gray in every situation. Generally if you can't see it, you're not looking hard enough, or you're ignoring it. And whether he did it because of her actions is COMPLETELY relevant. It is the ENTIRE point. And as I said way back when, they can BOTH be wrong. He can be wrong for reading too much into her actions, and she can be wrong for not being clearer, especially when they make it obvious that Cheetarah knew exactly what Lion-o thought of her. You keep saying they should have asked her, which is true, but she also could have just told them. She's not an idiot, she knew what they thought of her. Lion-o being an idiot does not exonerate Cheetarah, or vice-versa. |
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As for why Tygra is the favored of the crowds, I think it's more because he's a better warrior and the cats seem to be a society that honors that strength more than idealism or pacifism. TLDR; it's a lot easier to relate to Tygra because he's what the cats expect a cat to be while Lion-O is the dreamer and very unlike other cats. |
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Lion-O actively studied technology. In the pilot you can see various things he's disassembled trying to see how they work and he's even made diagrams. The problem is there was no one around who really understood it so his learning was slower than it would have been otherwise.
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8 years to hook up. Well most of that time is her cleric training and her duties. Same with Tygra with his duties and training. They would have gotten together when the time came. By the end of Episode 13, Cheetara explained that revealing her feelings to Tygra wasn't a priority, but the conflict between Lion-O and him was causing problems which needed to be addressed. She was fixing it. Then most likely they would have told Lion-O. However since Lion-O walked in on their personal matter, he flipped out which is now in 14 through 15. The Elephant Elder that told Lion-O about the supposed betrayal should get a portion of the blame for putting that nonsense in Lion-O's head. |
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The writers did that to make us think it would be tygra, it was cheeetara that lion-o felt the betrayal from. |
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Lion-O's betrayal issues could stem back to the Grune betrayal which destroyed the kingdom and got Claudis killed. |
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Has nothing to do with Grune. This was built up for the triangle. |
He only used Grune as an example of someone who actually betrayed someone, rather than it just being an emotional thing in their head.
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The writers will have to spell it out exactly how Cheetara betrayed Lion-O. She didn't go Grune on them. There wasn't the type of personal relationship between Lion-O and Cheetara which the betrayal could constitute her cheating on Lion-O or being unfaithful.
Betrayal is to strong a word to apply to this situation. Such a claim would call for her to be kicked out of the group and not trusting her to protect anyone in the group. A better wording would be, "She broke his heart." |
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You might have also missed the words Cheetara said to Tygra when they were alone and she was talking about her feelings to him. She said her feelings we not important and kept quiet 13 episodes, and now she comes out about it. There must have been something going on that would make her choose to talk about it. |
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Lion-o could say where was she in episode 14, she didn't have his back. |
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When she entered the fight, he did too. |
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The build up was for the scene and the betrayal comes from that scene not the AP. When they started E14, they did a recap and they had Annet say his betrayal line again, they showed T/C kissing. That is what they were referring too. The AP was just building it up more. You are thinking the betrayal part is over, but Annet's reminds him. He goes up there and the bells ring with them kissing. |
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