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Let's not get into the Asuka/Rei debate. It drove me away from Eva for years.
Keeping on topic, leaving the sword would only make it a matter of time before Mumm-Ra found it. When he get's to it, he'd just have to start looking. Or someone working for Ratar-O would let it slip at the wrong time, and word would get back to Mumm-Ra. That's not to say that things couldn't go horribly wrong with them having the sword, but I can see why they took off with it. |
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Come on, the writers wanted this. Could mummra break the curse on the sword?? He couldn't break the curse on the SoO. Would he be able to take the SoP out of the cave.
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Why take the chance as you said with the cats. Mummra was overthrown by 2 cats and animals. He would be more careful this time. |
Saw the episode last night and I really enjoyed it. As I was watching I kept feeling like "man, this series is finaly on track!" Pumyra has been like a breathe of fresh air and I am hoping she sticks around for good, though I feel like Pumyra coming on to Lion-o came too quickly. Maybe in the next episode AFTER he pulled her from under that rock would have been better suited?
Things I liked: The animation for Cheetara freeing the SoP. Jaga fighting Ratilla was great. I marked out big time. Wish it would have been longer like his fight with Grune in "The Ghost Warrior". Pumyra's hot headedness. It can get the cats in all sorts of trouble which will make things all the more interesting. Rataro. I thought they did a great job with him and his swords were great nod to the original. I also liked that they made him an intellect. Things I didn't like: Not showing how Cheetara and Tygra got down to the bottom of the mine. A little too much with Tygra and Cheetara already. It feels like it is being pushed on us. The SoO not going into short sword mode after being knocked out of Lion-o's hand. Maybe I have just grown to expect that from TOS. Yet another missed Thundercats Ho moment when Lion-O gets a hold of the SoO again during his fight with Rataro. Man I was so expecting it but again was left empty handed... *Also the lack of Kit/Kat & Snarf making an appearance makes me believe they seperated from the other cats to go after Tookit and we will see them again in "The Forever Bag". All in all a great episode and I am looking forward to next weeks episode which the series has finally started doing for me. |
I wonder since the sword of plundar is made of evil magic if it corrupts anyone who touches it. I noticed that jaga didn't touch it and buried immediately but both cheetara and tygra touched it. Also I'm wondering if the the ancient spirits of evil gave tygra's father that whip.
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I'm reminded of diablo suddenly...where in the end, the main char thought the best way to prevent diablo from breaking free was to keep diablo with him at all times....and we all know how that turned out -_-
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And even if Ratar-O got some different species than cats to look for the sword again, do you really think the Tcats want him doing it? Take away the thing he's searching for and you take away the reason he was buying slaves in the first place. |
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I would think with a title like "birth of the blades" it'll be primarily a flashback, probably showing Bengali forging SoO.
Like a few others I've read I feel that while Lion-O is showing more power in his attacks but his swordmanship is heavily lacking since the drifter... and he relys too heavily on his candy sheild Panthro aside from a single punch has done nothing since going stretch armstrong in new alliances Pumyra with the slaves freed and rescued hopefully will drop the "You don't know it didn't happen to you" attitude soon Line of the show folks: "uh could you start with me, He needs to figure out a way to get us out of this..." |
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Ya know....Everyone Assumes "Birth of the Blades" will explain the origins of the SoP and the SoO....but we've already seen the SoO being forged. And if it was only talking about the SoP why would blades be plural? Maybe that episode is explaining the origin of the Rat's Eyes instead. Of course that's just my "lets think of things that probably aren't true just to get people talking" sense tingling.
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actually, it was a bit of a Lion-O/Panthro double act at that point :0) |
I have a bad feeling... very bad feeling, and it's only partially about the army surrounding our feline heroes...
Tygra's eye quirks a lil when Lion O mentioned the Sword of Plundarr rivaled his own - check overly romantic episode several episodes away from a season fanale - check Cheetara issuing a warning that "this weapon was not meant to be used by a cat" - check add all these factors up: Tygra's going to do something very, very stupid. my own prediction for the next ep, Tygra's going to use the Sword and Claw of Plundarr and will end up corrupted, and it could also possibly lead to at least the beginnings of the end of the Ti/Chee relationship. which will coincide with Lion O hooking up with Pumyra, thus fulfilling to my earlier prediction of Cheetara getting a shock view of Lion O and Pumyra kissing like she and Tygra did way back in ep 13. but beyond my predictions and theories, one thing for sure from that cliffhanger. this is a big Uh Oh situation... |
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Okay, as far as Ratar-o getting more slaves and finding the sword: the scene seems to suggest that Cheetara is the ONLY person who can even remove the sword because 'jaga's magic flows through her.' So, given the way it was shown, it does seem like they were dumb. They were the only people with the key to darkness, and they used it.
That said, this is one of those cases where I don't really care. We want the SoP in play, because it's cool and it's going to make cool things happen. I think they could have done it better or given a better explanation, but it's not that important. And personally, I hope Tygra doesn't use the sword just because I'm tired of the rivalry and I feel it's been played out. I LIKE the Lion-o who's honestly trying to accept their relationship and the Tygra who gets his brother a little. Plus, I think the idea of tying an OS thing like Cheetara's sixth sense into the new plot in this way is a great way to modernize one of the old ideas. I hope they do that. It also explains the 'curse' thing way better that the OS. |
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Even so, did you see the size of that thing? He couldn't put two hands in it. It will only likely fit on his head and drop on his shoulders. Not sure you can use it that way. :D :D :D :D :D |
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I'm just saying as of right now there's no indication that Tygra plans on using it. Not saying that he won't, but the evidence that was quoted was not there. you can't see Tygra lift his eyebrows or give a look or whatever when you can't even see Tygra at all. You don't see him until Cheetara starts to go after the sword and he follows her. |
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I saw an subtle eyebrow quirk when Lion O mentioned the sword, subtle, but it, followed by Tygra's jumping to follow Cheetara after it was a redflag to me. could be paranoid, but meh that's me... Though I will say, while I'm not a fan of the pairing, it is mighty nice of Tygra to remember he had a girlfriend after three or four eps with him hardly acknowledging that. (won't count the Kittens ep). Just saying, if they'd handle their pairing well, I could get behind it, but it's almost the worst romantic subplot I've seen. was tops till I saw saturday's Legend of Korra (really, that was it? REALLY?!)
As Just saying, that rivalry isn't going to end just because Tygra found out he's from a long line of jerks. Tygra's always wanted the Sword, it was made clear in the Astral Plane debackle the sword is what he wanted for YEARS, that won't just go away over night. And a throw down between the brothers with equally powerful swords would be a fine way to finally put this to a rest. and also I might point out that overly romantic episodes between support characters usually lead to a break up or one of their deaths in most shows/animes... if they're going with that trope, I'd personally rather see a break up over Tygra or Cheetara pushing up daisies... And for the record before I say this, while I still stand by my preference of Lion O/Cheetara I'm actually starting to like Pumyra with Lion O at least for now, always had a thing for spitfires personally, but there's just something not right with Tygra/Cheetara at least how they are here, it just, it's hard to really say, something doesn't feel 'kosher' there... but again, could be old anime paranoia. |
I wouldn't be averse to Tygra taking a dive into the Dark Side. But right now I don't see how: up to Ep. 13 he could have been an easy prey, but from the evening bell till now, even if he still wanted the crown (to a nonexistent kingdom, let's face it: Thundera is gone and stayiing gone for a while), he has more to lose than to gain from such a decision.
Crown, not sword, is what he had always wanted the most. He said so himself in Native Son. The sword would have been his ticket to the crown, but it did not choose him and he knows it will never fully work for him. It was a matter of jealousy, pure and simple. Now don't get all self-righteous on me: anyone with a sibling knows of jealousy. If the SoP has the power to corrupt a soul -and it would be cool- then either Tygra or just anyone else would weild it out of desperation. Not for coveting a crown that exists in name only, not for a sword that won't work for them, just to try and save a dear one. And there's the logical conclusion: he wouldn't stay in the Dark Side forever. Who would bring him back, if not for the two people who matter to him the most? :) I don't actually think this would happen, but if it did, that's my take. I'd love to see that. Oh, wait... I may be reading something incredibly similar somewhere. Or waiting to read it, since the author of that fic got sidetracked writing some first person POV oneshots... you know who you are miss Fuuko... ;) |
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They might do this duel thing, but I don't want to see it, because different sword or no, it's functionally the same thing they did in the Astral Plane where the two of them fought with copies of the Sword of Omens. You're right about anime, though I'm hoping they don't go that way here. The triangle was bad, let it die. Pumyra and Lion-o has been oddly fast, but if it breaks the triangle I'm all for it. Although I pray they don't start making all the weird innuendo like Tygra and Cheetara. I agree that they're showing their relationship very strangely if they plan to make it permanent. It's just being written in that standard 'destined to fail' way. P.S. what was wrong with legend of Korra? It was definitely fast, but I assume that's because this first season is basically the original 12 episode mini-series. |
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I found it a bit corny, but not creepy. I found him turning out to be a cornball hilarious. ;) Care to shoot me some examples of this destined to fail trope? I watch anime, but apparently I don't watch enough. You know what, could it be something similar to the way Mako and Asami are unfolding on "Korra"? All the rubbing noses and the "sweety" stuff seems out of place in the Avatar world, but Sokka and Suki (original avatar series) were not immune to mushy romance either . |
I doubt Tygra will try to wield the Sword of Plundarr as it's too big for him to fit in. He has that new whip from Native Son. However, I can see the Thundercats on the run with the Sword of Plundarr while Mumm-Ra and his army give chase in the next episode.
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That was the feeling I got. I'm not saying 'the writing was bad' or anything, it just was so corny to me that it was more embarrassing than endearing. |
Tigra needs to realize that being king can really suck. Sure it's fine if your kingdom is all great, and top of the world. But right now Thundara is gone. The Cat's scattered and enslaved. And whoever the king is, has to unite the races, beat Mumm-Ra, and then see about rebuilding. Basicly Lion-O is stuck with all the bad parts for being a king. Tigra isn't. So the question is if Tigra was king, could he shoulder that burden?
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All in all the episode was great. I'm really looking forward to some more flash blacks about both swords. Doesn't it seem like the Spirit stone sure likes Lion-O. I think the Eye of Thundera is incomplete. Just a theory but I wonder if the stones get combined and create the real Eye.
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I want to see another L/T fight. Tygra has beaten lion-o 3 times. Lion-o is due. That would be awesome Tygra with the SoP and Lion-o with the SoO. |
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I have to agree with those who say the Tygra / Cheetara relationship felt "forced" in this episode. It was kind of like that "oh jeez..." feeling you get when you see two really mushy people all over each other. Reminds me of that episode of Seinfeld "No, your sshmoopie!". lol
Tygra using the SoP is an interesting idea but I don't think it will happen. I feel like we already had the Tygra / Lion-o fued. I don't want to watch that again. At least not at this point in the series. The interesting thing is Mordax tells Rataro that all those who seek the SoP are destined to die, and Rataro confirms its true. Will this not affect Tygra and/or Cheetara since they volunteered? On a side note when Cheetara tells Pumyra she can't imagine being a slave, Pumyra says "try living it". Seems she was a slave of the rats for months. I am thinking Dobo would visit the mines and purchase the strongest cats from Rataro for use in the pit. |
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In any case, it was all about exploring what could happen given CC's premise, with no certain basis that something like that is actually going to happen. |
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