Originally Posted by stac (Post 41285)

- Cheetara’s decision was an emotionally motivated, knee-jerk reaction (“I need to stick with him.”). She disregarded her own advice about “sticking together” and undermined Lion-O authority on the battlefield, right in front of the enemy.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41286)

I like to know if mummra has learned how to break the spell (Cheetara)?

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 41293)

Well if push came to shove, we know all Mumm-ra would have to do, is grab Tygra and force Cheetara to undo the spell.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 41291)

How is letting one of your teammates to die "sticking together?"

Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 41298)

It's been mentioned several times that Lion-O probably thought Tygra would have been able to find his way out. He's still gambling with his brother's life (which is pretty irresponsible) but it's because he has faith in Tygra.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 41291)

How is letting one of your teammates to die "sticking together?"

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 41288)

Tygra pulled Lion-O out. And even if Lion-O climbed back up on his own Tygra could've easily knocked him down again.

And Drunk driving is not the same because when you driving drunk you're actually choosing to drink and drive. Tygra neither chose to be influenced or knew he was being influenced until after he came to his senses.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41160)

I don't know if that is there goal? For me, an epic would have started with episode one and them over coming the odds. The way cheetara is siding with lion-o, I would think that cheetara would've went to tygra in the begining.

If that is what they were going for, I would've rather them leave lion-o out of it.

See, that is what is werid. I wouldn't think cheetara would abadon her duty for love. She is disgracing Jaga.

Gosh the flower, I don't even want to go there.

Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 41173)

Who is to say that Tygra and Cheetarah stay together though? We know that in "Trials" Tygra is forced to take leadership of the group and they decide to go after the sword, while Lion-O would probably have gone after their fallen comrade, just so he could be sure. Tygra is more hard-hearted than his brother and isn't as focused on the bigger picture as Lion-O is and he may end up being too hard on the other Thundercats or unable to take his failures in stride like Lion-O can (since he's won almost everything he wanted). He might not be able to handle criticism as well either since he was always told how wonderful he was. All of this could lead to him snapping at or taking his frustrations out on his teammates when they fail to live up to his expectations, which could damage his relationship with Cheetarah. I'm not saying it will happen or even that I want it to, it's just a possibility based on what we know about the characters and the teasing nature of the show's creators.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 41199)

That's not the way I took it. If they had kept fighting what then? Even if they had won Tygra would've been killed. Do you think for a second Kaynar would've hesitated to do it? And if they had lost they would all be dead anyway and Cheetara's decision wouldn't have mattered in the slightest.

As it stands If Cheetara hadn't stopped fighting Tygra would be dead right now. Why is that so difficult to understand?

Originally Posted by SirSapphire (Post 41205)

In the second half of the Trials Lion-O will be forced to face his own self-doubt with takes the form of Tygra (although it may morph into his father at some point). Lion-O has spent much of his life being told he's not good enough and that his interests are wrong and he has to prove them wrong. Unlike the other trials with required cunning and could have "work around" solutions this will be the one he has to face head-on and the old-fashioned way. He must defeat his brother and his doubt and prove why the Sword chose him.

He'll come out of it a better person and won't have to defeat the real-life Tygra because upon his return his brother will have gone through his own trials and learned why Lion-O was chosen and the two brothers will finally begin supporting one another.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 41230)

Slavery. We already know from the crew that Mumm-Ra kept some of the survivors from Thundera as slaves. And I would think seeing their king as a slave beside them would keep the slaves morale low.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41246)

If that happens, I will quit the show. I feel like the whole L/C/T would be a waste.

My theroy is that legacy was a foreshadowing of what is going to happen.

If you don't mind, yeah.

Originally Posted by Balgus82 (Post 41272)

I have done no such thing. I never once even alluded to a motive for Lion-O wanting to continue to fight.

And btw if Tygra really wanted to kill Lion-O then Lion-O would be dead right now. No one was there to stop him.

Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 41289)

I'm also talking about when they were little.

Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 41367)

Especially since clerics fight to the death as indicated in ep 2 so she further proves she is unfit for her position

Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 41372)

Kaynar has made the classic bad guy mistake by not killing tygra right away, and had lion-o and cheetara kept fighting he would've most likely jumped in and left tygra by himself. Cheetara's decision end the fight sooner with zero chance of surviving. With a little luck there is always a chance of winning and luck only come and lasts as long as someones courage and bravery holds up and what cheetara did was cowardly. And on top of that she said "I have to stick with him" as opposed to panthro saying that they all have to stick togather so again I question tygra and cheetara's commitment to the cause

Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 41374)

Claudis may not be the form of lion-o's self doubt as that door was closed when Claudis bowed to him and later said he was proud of him before he died.

Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 41377)

Legacy may still be a foreshadowing but cheetara is shown to be unfit for her position so maybe pumyra will take her spot. I guess because pumyra is a puma and the original makers of the sword were cougars/puma making pumyra the new cleric or pumyra might look like panthera seeing how cougars are multicolored

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 41145)

Maybe Lion-o will become more Batman-like, colder and harder, and not really letting people to close. In other words more like his father?

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 41402)

Batman: "Welcome to the brooding club, old chum"
Lion-O: "Thanks, it's all because of this blasted love triangle I have to be part of! Darn Jelenic"
Batman: "I have many ships, you can learn something from it"
Lion-O: "How can you manage all those ships?"
Batman: "The writers do that for me"
Lion-O: "Ah I see, It's definitely time to change writers then!"

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41399)

I would've be fine with that if she was in the begining and if she was a main character.

Older I get, the more of character development I like and the romance side of it. I don't like quick flashback or forced relationships.

I would think that would destory cheetara's character.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41176)

Agree. Most of those fans are tygra fans.

Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 41415)

I would've thought cheetara would've used her staff to make giant roots come up and fling atticus and kaynar like 50 feet in the air and lion-o and cheetara both punch slithe in the face at the same time for an instant KO but no she gave up and allowed herself to get put in a choke hold by atticus.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 41233)

He's probably referring to one of the times Cmangund and I were throwing out wacky theories.

Originally Posted by cmangund (Post 41427)

Ah good times, good times indeed all the wacky theories.
Like Holmes always said "It's just a simple process of elimination.":D

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Jelenic and crew will be forever be remembered as the man and crew that tainted the TCATS brand. Hopefully J.M. DeMatteis will remove some of the taint.

Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 41415)

I would've thought cheetara would've used her staff to make giant roots come up and fling atticus and kaynar like 50 feet in the air and lion-o and cheetara both punch slithe in the face at the same time for an instant KO but no she gave up and allowed herself to get put in a choke hold by atticus.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41177)

Who said that?

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 41011)

Maybe Lion-o needs to embrace his inner Claudus, and banish Cheetara(and probably Tygra who will definately turn on him when he does), for the sake of the mission. Cheetara has proven Lion-o can't trust her on any level, and his relationship with Tygra is only going to deteriorate even more with "Lady Macbeth" pulling the strings.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 40669)

At this point I find Cheetara more villainous than the "bad guys". She is a danger to the whole team, Jaga's ghost needs to come out of the Book, and demote Cheetara and train the Wilykittens to be clerics.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 40496)

For a moment when I saw Cheetara standing there,with her staff in the ground, I half expected her to reveal she was working with Mumm-ra all along. Seriously Claudus would have had her head if she pulled that crap on him.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 40499)

Cheetara is definately the weak link in the team. Lion-o should banish her, before she gets them all killed. But then that would put Lion-o and tygra at odds again, maybe we'll get lucky and she'll get killed off before too much longer.:p

Originally Posted by Mako Crab (Post 41449)

Lion-O is still immature. His decisions aren't to always be trusted. For instance, Ramlak Rising. Lion-O made some pretty poor decisions against the advice of his teammates and nearly got them all killed.
The Duelist and the Drifter is another good example where Lion-O's own short temper, cockiness, and immaturity nearly cost him the Sword of Omens. He's still growing into the role of being king, but he's got a ways to go yet, and he's still making rash, irresponsible decisions.

Originally Posted by Given2u (Post 41448)

You know I've been thinking. If they said that the love triangle would be important, why would she choose so early (episode 13) when there "52 episodes. It's weird. I think (1) the writing don't know what they're doing, (2) they drastically rewrote the story, or (3) there will be a love interest switch. Usually when a guy/girl confesses early in an anime/cartoon it usually means that they will not last. But that is that thing--- who would want a person played you and distrust your decisions. That is not a complicated love triangle. The love triangle in "Broken Blade" is complicated. The main character want to be with Sygewn but she is married to Hord. Hord loves Sygewn but she does not. She loves Rygart. Rygart will not betray Hord. NOW THAT IS COMPLICTED!!

Originally Posted by hollowdheart (Post 41452)

Doesn't look like Thundercats is going to return for good. CN didn't list them as a returning show at the convention the Realm Cast | Cartoon Network announces new and returning shows. No THUNDERCATS mentioned.

Originally Posted by Mako Crab (Post 41449)

Lion-O is still immature. His decisions aren't to always be trusted. For instance, Ramlak Rising. Lion-O made some pretty poor decisions against the advice of his teammates and nearly got them all killed.
The Duelist and the Drifter is another good example where Lion-O's own short temper, cockiness, and immaturity nearly cost him the Sword of Omens. He's still growing into the role of being king, but he's got a ways to go yet, and he's still making rash, irresponsible decisions.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41458)

This is what I said in the begining. Usually they won't show their final pair so early. They always make them go through tough situations or dating other people.

There is a lot of complicated triangles, but they give each party development.

First love triangle I saw was Tenchi (T/R/A).

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 41463)

These writers don't know how to do a complicated triangle. What will probably happen to further prolong it, is that T/C will break up in 1 episode for little to no reason, and then L/C will get together with no mention of Cheetara leading both guys on.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41470)

That sounds like the MO.

T/L will be best friends to after it.:)

I wonder if they planned for only 26 episodes.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 41463)

These writers don't know how to do a complicated triangle. What will probably happen to further prolong it, is that T/C will break up in 1 episode for little to no reason, and then L/C will get together with no mention of Cheetara leading both guys on.

Originally Posted by Big Snarf (Post 41472)

Nah cheetara will dump tygra for snow-meow, lion-o will & snarf will laugh at tygra followed by the kittens laughing at tygra then panthro and the entire berbil village laughing at tygra followed by jaga appearing out of the book to laugh at tygra and finally mumm-ra looking through his cauldron along with slithe atticus and kaynor also laughing at tygra :D:D:D:D:D And iI forgot to mention I'll be laughing at tygra

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 41471)

It is getting kind of hard to believe that they plan these things out in advance, isn't it?

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41475)

I think they planned it out, but I don't know if they thought they would get this reaction.

They were not expecting all the L/C questions at the Comic Con.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 41478)

Like we were saying before, if they wanted T/C or L/C, they should have gone with one or the other from the start. Or at at least give both equal build-up, not lame flashbacks about flowers.

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41479)

or left out romance.

I agree 1000%.

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 41481)

The writers have made everyone in this look pretty bad. Cheetara now looks totally irresponsible, both personally by leading Lion-o on, and professionally, by surrendering in battle. She should be glad that Claudus is gone, he definately wasn't the merciful type...

Originally Posted by L08e16o (Post 41482)

Or Jaga. What is werid is I believe jaga would never assign cheetara to him. Unless he had a motive. She was young and so is he. He needed some one older than she is.